I was at Pep Boys today and was about to buy some new fuel lines for my
n600. I figured I'd replace them as they may be the source of my gas smell.
It never hurts to replace the gas lines.
Anyway, there are three sizes available and I have no idea what size to get.
Available sizes were 3/16", 4/16" (aka, 1/4"), 5/16". What size should I
get, and how many feet do i need to do the entire fuel line?
Also, someone mentioned to me about there being a metal fuel line as well,
is this true?
fuel line size?
Re: fuel line size?
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1/4" is what you need along with a number of new clamps.. you need at least 12 clamps to replace all the gas hoses.
Be extremely careful when taking hoses off the fuel pump. The hose barbs on it are easily broken (made of brittle phenolic resin). you may just want to cut the old hoses off it rather than pulling or twisting.
Back on the tank, you have 2 lengths of rubber hose, both of which were rotten on my car. the tank has to be pulled to get at both.Seems like the vent one may be a larger diameter like 5/16, but I can't remember. I do remember on it that I found it impossible to put the same short piece of hose as was original back on and clamp it while holding the tank. I simply added maybe 6" to it's length.
the front hoses are from the metal lines to the fuel pump. and fuel pump to carb.
I have heard and read that on some cars, the metal lines were plugged, but as difficult as they appear to be to remove, I left mine as they were.
For the next few tanks of gas, you should put some gas additive in the tank (berrymans is ok). It will help dry and clean all the lines and stuff.
While it's probably not needed, I run premium in my 600 at each fillup. it's maybe a buck more on the 5 gallons I put in, but my car runs great on it.
The key to stopping the gas smell is telling where it is coming from. if the hoses don't fix it, about the only spot left is the carb or the vapor trap in the air cleaner having gas in it.
Richard Morris
1/4" is what you need along with a number of new clamps.. you need at least 12 clamps to replace all the gas hoses.
Be extremely careful when taking hoses off the fuel pump. The hose barbs on it are easily broken (made of brittle phenolic resin). you may just want to cut the old hoses off it rather than pulling or twisting.
Back on the tank, you have 2 lengths of rubber hose, both of which were rotten on my car. the tank has to be pulled to get at both.Seems like the vent one may be a larger diameter like 5/16, but I can't remember. I do remember on it that I found it impossible to put the same short piece of hose as was original back on and clamp it while holding the tank. I simply added maybe 6" to it's length.
the front hoses are from the metal lines to the fuel pump. and fuel pump to carb.
I have heard and read that on some cars, the metal lines were plugged, but as difficult as they appear to be to remove, I left mine as they were.
For the next few tanks of gas, you should put some gas additive in the tank (berrymans is ok). It will help dry and clean all the lines and stuff.
While it's probably not needed, I run premium in my 600 at each fillup. it's maybe a buck more on the 5 gallons I put in, but my car runs great on it.
The key to stopping the gas smell is telling where it is coming from. if the hoses don't fix it, about the only spot left is the carb or the vapor trap in the air cleaner having gas in it.
Richard Morris
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> Matt Timion
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> [anzhonda600owners] fuel line size?
> I was at Pep Boys
> today and was about to buy some new fuel lines for my
> n600. I
> figured I'd replace them as they may be the source of my gas smell.
> It
> never hurts to replace the gas lines.
> Anyway, there are three sizes
> available and I have no idea what size to get.
> Available sizes were 3/16",
> 4/16" (aka, 1/4"), 5/16". What size should I
> get, and how many feet
> do i need to do the entire fuel line?
> Also, someone mentioned to me
> about there being a metal fuel line as well,
> is this true?
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Re: fuel line size?
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Thanks for the information Richard. Can you tell me how much hose I need? The hose it sold in 2 foot lengths prepackaged. How many of these packages will I need?
As for the fuel pump, someone replaced it with an after market pump a while ago, so I will probably not have the problems you speak of.
Another possible source of the gas smell is the tank itself. It's possible that the overflow line is not installed, or that the seal holding the sending unit in place is missing. Maybe the sending unit itself is gone, which woudl explain why I do not have a functioning gas gauge. Only dropping the tank will let me know. I do know however that when I siphoned 2 gallons out of the tank the gas smell went away.
Once again, how MUCH hose will I need to replace everything?
Thanks for the information Richard. Can you tell me how much hose I need? The hose it sold in 2 foot lengths prepackaged. How many of these packages will I need?
As for the fuel pump, someone replaced it with an after market pump a while ago, so I will probably not have the problems you speak of.
Another possible source of the gas smell is the tank itself. It's possible that the overflow line is not installed, or that the seal holding the sending unit in place is missing. Maybe the sending unit itself is gone, which woudl explain why I do not have a functioning gas gauge. Only dropping the tank will let me know. I do know however that when I siphoned 2 gallons out of the tank the gas smell went away.
Once again, how MUCH hose will I need to replace everything?
Re: fuel line size?
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As I recall, I bought 8 feet of hose in one piece from NAPA and cut what I needed from it one piece at a time. Seems like I had a lot left over. Also, the vent hose (larger size) on the gas tank was around 1.5 feet long but it's been a while since I did it. I think the longest piece was from the fuel pump top the carb (I routed it differently than stock) and it was maybe 3 feet long.
I had planned to replace all the gas line in the car with hose, but when I saw how the metal tubing was covered with undercoating and was a tight fit to the body, I decided to leave it.
Richard Morris
As I recall, I bought 8 feet of hose in one piece from NAPA and cut what I needed from it one piece at a time. Seems like I had a lot left over. Also, the vent hose (larger size) on the gas tank was around 1.5 feet long but it's been a while since I did it. I think the longest piece was from the fuel pump top the carb (I routed it differently than stock) and it was maybe 3 feet long.
I had planned to replace all the gas line in the car with hose, but when I saw how the metal tubing was covered with undercoating and was a tight fit to the body, I decided to leave it.
Richard Morris
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> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Matt Timion
> Sent:
> Tuesday, January 17, 2006
> 11:40 AM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re: [anzhonda600owners] fuel line size?
> Thanks for the information Richard. Can you
> tell me how much hose I need? The hose it sold in 2 foot lengths > prepackaged. How many of these packages will I need?
> As for the fuel pump, someone replaced it with an
> after market pump a while ago, so I will probably not have the problems you > speak of.
> Another possible source of the gas smell is the
> tank itself. It's possible that the overflow line is not installed, or > that the seal holding the sending unit in place is missing. Maybe the > sending unit itself is gone, which woudl explain why I do not have a > functioning gas gauge. Only dropping the tank will let me know. I > do know however that when I siphoned 2 gallons out of the tank the gas smell > went away.
> Once again, how MUCH hose will I need to replace
> everything?
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > Richard
> > Morris
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:53
> > AM
> > Subject:
> > RE: [anzhonda600owners] fuel
> > line size?
> > 1/4" is what you need along with a number of new clamps.. you need at > > least 12 clamps to replace all the gas hoses.
> > Be
> > extremely careful when taking hoses off the fuel pump. The hose barbs on it > > are easily broken (made of brittle phenolic resin). you may just want > > to cut the old hoses off it rather than pulling or > > twisting.
> > Back on the tank, you have 2 lengths of rubber hose, both of which > > were rotten on my car. the tank has to be pulled to get at both.Seems like > > the vent one may be a larger diameter like 5/16, but I can't remember. I do > > remember on it that I found it impossible to put the same short piece of > > hose as was original back on and clamp it while holding the tank. I simply > > added maybe 6" to it's length.
> > the front hoses are from the metal lines to the fuel pump. and fuel > > pump to carb.
> > I
> > have heard and read that on some cars, the metal lines were plugged, but as > > difficult as they appear to be to remove, I left mine as they were.
> > For the next few tanks of gas, you should put some gas additive in > > the tank (berrymans is ok). It will help dry and clean all the lines and > > stuff.
> > While it's probably not needed, I run premium in my 600 at each > > fillup. it's maybe a buck more on the 5 gallons I put in, but my car runs > > great on it.
> > The key to stopping the gas smell is telling where it is coming from.
> > if the hoses don't fix it, about the only spot left is the carb or the vapor > > trap in the air cleaner having gas in it.
> > Richard
> > Morris