Rusted and Bunged Screw

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baldwin_elias
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Rusted and Bunged Screw

Post by baldwin_elias »

I'm working on cleaning the rusty chocolate milk, I mean, gasoline out of my coupe's tank and filter. One of the screws on the fuel filter/pump access door (under the seat) is badly rusted and so messed up it has no indication of ever having a Phillips head. Vice grips haven't worked, only chewed the screw more. Impact driver has nothing to grip. PB Blaster has been applied liberally. What are your preferred methods for removing something like this?
Eric Geiger
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Re: Rusted and Bunged Screw

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you should try an easy out or reverse drill bit set.  I've used this product on many bad screws with luck.
just google" easy out screw extractor"
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On Jun 30, 2012, at 1:51 PM, baldwin_elias wrote:
> I'm working on cleaning the rusty chocolate milk, I mean, gasoline out of my coupe's tank and filter. One of the screws on the fuel filter/pump access door (under the seat) is badly rusted and so messed up it has no indication of ever having a Phillips head.
> Vice grips haven't worked, only chewed the screw more. Impact driver has nothing to grip. PB Blaster has been applied liberally. What are your preferred methods for removing something like this?
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Re: Rusted and Bunged Screw

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the specific one I've been using is called the "grabit"
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On Jun 30, 2012, at 1:51 PM, baldwin_elias wrote:
> I'm working on cleaning the rusty chocolate milk, I mean, gasoline out of my coupe's tank and filter. One of the screws on the fuel filter/pump access door (under the seat) is badly rusted and so messed up it has no indication of ever having a Phillips head.
> Vice grips haven't worked, only chewed the screw more. Impact driver has nothing to grip. PB Blaster has been applied liberally. What are your preferred methods for removing something like this?
brad fenn
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Re: Rusted and Bunged Screw

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One thing you might try, if you can get all the other screws out, pry the access door up on the side with out the screws and try rotating counterclockwise. You may bend it a little, but you can straighten it back when done. Sometimes when rotating it will loosen the screw to the point you can get a hold of it with something. If it doesn't budge,then  do what Eric suggested.
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I'm working on cleaning the rusty chocolate milk, I mean, gasoline out of my coupe's tank and filter. One of the screws on the fuel filter/pump access door (under the seat) is badly rusted and so messed up it has no indication of ever having a Phillips head. Vice grips haven't worked, only chewed the screw more. Impact driver has nothing to grip. PB Blaster has been applied liberally. What are your preferred methods for removing something like this?
John Mills
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Re: Rusted and Bunged Screw

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OR.........weld a nut to it, no muss no fuss
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Re: Rusted and Bunged Screw

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I don't think welding anything around the fuel pump or tank is advisable.
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On Jun 30, 2012, at 3:14 PM, "John Mills" wrote:
OR.........weld a nut to it, no muss no fuss
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Re: Rusted and Bunged Screw

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That was my first thought too.
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I don't think welding anything around the fuel pump or tank is advisable.
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On Jun 30, 2012, at 3:14 PM, "John Mills" wrote:
OR.........weld a nut to it, no muss no fuss
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Re: Rusted and Bunged Screw

Post by John Mills »

well, maybe not for you but I have done it many times. I have been filmed cutting a 5000 gallon gasoline tank with a plasma torch - still had a 1/4 tank full...btw a small weld on that cover with a mig welder is no big deal.
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Re: Rusted and Bunged Screw

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you guys .....
Elias Baldwin
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Re: Rusted and Bunged Screw

Post by Elias Baldwin »

I have been able to rotate the fuel door to provide access to the pump and filter. It crumpled the rubber gasket a little bit, but that was already crunchy. It's not essential to remove it at the present time. Thanks, Eric - I'll order the Grabit kit and see how that works.
And I don't know how to weld, yet.
Two more thoughts: does the gas tank have baffles in it? If not, should be as easy to clean as a motorcycle tank, right? Also, should I dismantle the fuel pump for cleaning?
Thanks!
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> > OR.........weld a nut to it, no muss no fuss
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> > One thing you might try, if you can get all the other screws out, pry the access door up on the side with out the screws and try rotating counterclockwise. You may bend it a little, but you > > can straighten it back when done. Sometimes when rotating it will loosen the screw to the point you can get a hold of it with something. If it doesn't budge,then� do what Eric suggested.
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> > I'm working on cleaning the rusty chocolate milk, I mean, gasoline out of my coupe's tank and filter. One of the screws on the fuel filter/pump access door (under the seat) is badly rusted and so messed up it has no indication of ever having a Phillips > > head. Vice grips haven't worked, only chewed the screw more. Impact driver has nothing to grip. PB Blaster has been applied liberally. What are your preferred methods for removing something like this?
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