difference in how the car drives. Much more comforable because the
steering reacts so much better. (Would like to drive a real low miles
car some time to see how stock was.)
-Eric
--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "wanna600" wrote:
> Bill- I got rid of the brass bushing along with the rubber goo that
> used to be the compliant part of the bushing.
> I'm assuming that honda went with the brass/rubber combo to compensate
> for the taper in the rack itself. If you go with a non compliant
> bushing you have two options: 1. Make the bushing with extra clearance
> to compensate for the racks taper, or 2. Make the bushing snug to the
> pinion and remove the taper from the rack.
> I went with option #2 in an effort to reduce wiggle and friction in
> the steering wheel.
> Something to keep in mind is that I have only touched 1 n600 steering
> rack in my life; others might not have as much taper as mine.
> I've got about 1.5 years on my delrin bushings with a bunch (maybe 60)
> autocross runs, no sign of degredation
> -Miles
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Bill Colford"
> wrote:
> > Hi Miles E.
> > How does the Delrin bushing work? do you use the original brass
> bushing and
> > place the Delrin bushing over it? or...
> > I talk about using a cloth tape (some owners had a problem with
putting
> > tape on the bushing, the friction tape I used was really thick and
> with the
> > washer on either end held together well), Neoprene tubing and I have
> used a
> > peace of electrical conduit pipe and tried a nylon bushing over the
> original
> > brass bushing (each time I removed what was left of the rubber on the
> > original bushings). The tape had give but held up well in the
> grease as did
> > the Neoprene tubing, the Nylon bushing cracked under use, the
> conduit had no
> > give, gave the best alignment but never felt right.
> > But each time my goal was to replace the rubber on the out side
of the
> > original bushings. The original bushing never showed any wear it was
> always
> > the rubber that failed. I guess what I am trying to say is, that
> this is a
> > frequent problem brought on by time and not just use. So for any
> Honda 600
> > owner working on your steering because the steering wheel moves
> three inches
> > before the wheels turn, fix your steering rack before it causes
you more
> > problems. If Delrin bushings are the way to go, lets get them on
> the shelf.
> > Bill
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
]On Behalf Of wanna600
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:14 PM
> > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: delrin steering rack pinion bushings
> > Just to throw another experience in the mix... I was able to pull my
> > steering rack out of my 71 sedan without loosening the subframe or the
> > fan. It just wiggled out one side of the inner fender.
> > I agree with how fantastic the car steers after replacing the bushings
> > with delrin. Night and day. I did spend a few hours grinding and
> > sanding my rack straight, so there could be less slop in the bushing.
> > now the steering feels like my buddy's Boxter. Keep in mind that that
> > is the only part of the car that will ever feel "like a Boxters"
> > -Miles E.
> > --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Richard Morris"
> > wrote:
> > > Bill, I did that. I had the article. I even completely removed the
> back
> > > two subframe bolts and let the engine dangle. And then I used a
> lever to
> > > push it down even further (the subframe). I tried that and tried
every
> > > way I could to get it out without pulling the fan housing.
Believe me
> > > when I say I tried. Even with the fan housing out, it was not a
> case of
> > > it fell out (and this was with the rear subframe dangling loose. I
> could
> > > have had it out a lot faster and with less wear and tear on my
> hands if
> > > I had just pulled the fan housing first (it's really not that
bad with
> > > the right length extensions and small 1/4 drive socket). And it was
> > > worth all the trouble.
> > > This is a 71 sedan, it has the stud on the passenger side that
> some duct
> > > work mounts to. It may not be as difficult in a coupe or later
sedan.
> > > And yes, the instructions on the ANZ site were helpful.
> > > Richard Morris
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
] On Behalf Of Bill Colford
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:40 AM
> > > To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
;
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas] delrin steering rack pinion bushings
> > > Hi Richard;
> > > If you go to the URL below there is a complete article on
how to
> > > change/rebuild the steering rack. It can be removed without
> pulling the
> > > fan
> > > or carb. You have to loosen the four sub frame bolts and allow the
> > > engine
> > > to move forward and down a bit. It only takes about a half inch
more
> > > room.
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/anz ... ers/files/
> > > Bill
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
]On Behalf Of Richard Morris
> > > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:11 PM
> > > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] delrin steering rack pinion bushings
> > > I just made a set of delrin bushings for my sedan. If anyone is
> > > interested in a set for their 600 (coupe or sedan), send me an email
> > > at richard.morris@c... I will take $25.00 for the bushings (2).
> > > That does not include postage to you (probably 5 bucks or less). I
> > > will take Paypal.
> > > If anyone wants them made out of teflon, I will do the 2 bushings
> > > for $40.00 (teflon is expensive).
> > > I have a 71 sedan and all I had to remove to get the rack out was
> > > take out the steering column, and the 4 rack bolts and the fan
> > > housing and the carb/intake (2 bolts). Don't believe that you can
> > > get the rack out without pulling the fan housing (at least in my 71
> > > sedan). It just won't come out. Overall, replacing the bushings is
> > > about a 4 hour job. My sedan now has the steering response of a go-
> > > kart!
> > > I went from having nearly a 1/4 turn of steering play to none at
> > > all. Best of all, delrin is made to be used in applications like
> > > this.
> > > I can also make sway bar bushings out of delrin. Contact me for
> > > price on them.
> > > Richard Morris