72 honda coupe brake booster rebuild kit or brake booster

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Jerry
Posts: 8
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:34 am

Re: booster on ebay

Post by Jerry »

Anyone ever think of using the british remote mount boosters? Looks like you would just need to change a few fitting at the booster its self but they are available brand new and readily available.
From: honda600wiz
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 3:28 AM
To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: booster on ebay
I send my brake boosters to Karps in California to be rebuilt, not cheap for a rebuild however. Not sure if he could offer a kit as there are three different styles of boosters for the N600 and one for the Z600. Intenal parts could be interchangeable between the boosters also, Miles will know the answer to that question.
--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, dean m wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... OTORS:1123
> --- On Wed, 8/25/10, lyletrudell wrote:
> From: lyletrudell
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] brake booster parts and restoring a Honda!
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 6:23 PM
> �
> It's only our braking system!
> Nothing to worry about.
[The entire original message is not included]
lyletrudell
Posts: 56
Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:54 pm

Brake booster rebuild

Post by lyletrudell »

Jerry that is a thought.
I really would like to keep the car stock if possible, because they are getting so rare.
I have one diaphram that is in good condition and should be able to get one good unit from the 3 I have.
I have found O-rings for the booster.
We need:
*piston seal
*diaphram
*Relay piston parts.
OK, let's say we can't get booster parts.
Do we need power assited front brakes?
What about bypassing the booster and use a proportioning valve so we can adjust front to rear brake bias?
http://www.jegs.com/c/Brakes-Drivetrain ... 5/10002/-1
Simple, cheap and they work great!
Lyle
--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, Jerry wrote:
> Anyone ever think of using the british remote mount boosters? Looks like you would just need to change a few fitting at the booster its self but they are available brand new and readily available.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: honda600wiz
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 3:28 AM
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: booster on ebay
> I send my brake boosters to Karps in California to be rebuilt, not cheap for a rebuild however. Not sure if he could offer a kit as there are three different styles of boosters for the N600 and one for the Z600. Intenal parts could be interchangeable between the boosters also, Miles will know the answer to that question.
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, dean m wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... OTORS:1123
> > --- On Wed, 8/25/10, lyletrudell wrote:
> > From: lyletrudell
> > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] brake booster parts and restoring a Honda!
> > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 6:23 PM
> > It's only our braking system!
> > Nothing to worry about.
> [The entire original message is not included]
lyletrudell
Posts: 56
Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:54 pm

Brake booster rebuild

Post by lyletrudell »

This proportioning valve would work perfect!
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/63020/10002/-1
Mount on the firewall and run the rear line to the valve and then to the back as original.
Then re-route the front lines direct from the master cylinder to the front calipers.
Keep the booster for the "stock" look!
I can't believe the pedal pressure is to great without the booster.
?
Lyle
--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "lyletrudell" wrote:
> Jerry that is a thought.
> I really would like to keep the car stock if possible, because they are getting so rare.
> I have one diaphram that is in good condition and should be able to get one good unit from the 3 I have.
> I have found O-rings for the booster.
> We need:
> *piston seal
> *diaphram
> *Relay piston parts.
> OK, let's say we can't get booster parts.
> Do we need power assited front brakes?
> What about bypassing the booster and use a proportioning valve so we can adjust front to rear brake bias?
http://www.jegs.com/c/Brakes-Drivetrain ... 5/10002/-1
> Simple, cheap and they work great!
> Lyle
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, Jerry wrote:
> > Anyone ever think of using the british remote mount boosters? Looks like you would just need to change a few fitting at the booster its self but they are available brand new and readily available.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: honda600wiz
> > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 3:28 AM
> > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: booster on ebay
> > I send my brake boosters to Karps in California to be rebuilt, not cheap for a rebuild however. Not sure if he could offer a kit as there are three different styles of boosters for the N600 and one for the Z600. Intenal parts could be interchangeable between the boosters also, Miles will know the answer to that question.
> > --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, dean m wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... OTORS:1123
> > > --- On Wed, 8/25/10, lyletrudell wrote:
> > > From: lyletrudell
> > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] brake booster parts and restoring a Honda!
> > > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 6:23 PM
> > > It's only our braking system!
> > > Nothing to worry about.
> > [The entire original message is not included]
feltonminicycle
Posts: 352
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2003 2:50 pm

Re: booster on ebay

Post by feltonminicycle »

Probably wont work because a Honda 600 draws such a low vacuum less than 10 a real car pulls like 30 ?
Miles
--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, Jerry wrote:
> Anyone ever think of using the british remote mount boosters? Looks like you would just need to change a few fitting at the booster its self but they are available brand new and readily available.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: honda600wiz
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 3:28 AM
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: booster on ebay
> I send my brake boosters to Karps in California to be rebuilt, not cheap for a rebuild however. Not sure if he could offer a kit as there are three different styles of boosters for the N600 and one for the Z600. Intenal parts could be interchangeable between the boosters also, Miles will know the answer to that question.
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, dean m wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... OTORS:1123
> > --- On Wed, 8/25/10, lyletrudell wrote:
> > From: lyletrudell
> > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] brake booster parts and restoring a Honda!
> > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 6:23 PM
> > It's only our braking system!
> > Nothing to worry about.
> [The entire original message is not included]
feltonminicycle
Posts: 352
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2003 2:50 pm

proprotioning valve

Post by feltonminicycle »

Honda 600 already has a proportioning valve.
The brake booster only operates the front brakes.
Without the booster you need to plan ahead for stops, a booster that works correct works excellently, one that is weak - you can push through the boost til it gets hard again. A proper working booster causes the brake pedal to act a bit spongy.
Honda says the test is to press on the brake pedal and then start the car. If the pedal drops down a bit more then the booster is working.
Miles
--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "lyletrudell" wrote:
> This proportioning valve would work perfect!
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/63020/10002/-1
> Mount on the firewall and run the rear line to the valve and then to the back as original.
> Then re-route the front lines direct from the master cylinder to the front calipers.
> Keep the booster for the "stock" look!
> I can't believe the pedal pressure is to great without the booster.
> ?
> Lyle
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "lyletrudell" wrote:
> > Jerry that is a thought.
> > I really would like to keep the car stock if possible, because they are getting so rare.
> > I have one diaphram that is in good condition and should be able to get one good unit from the 3 I have.
> > I have found O-rings for the booster.
> > We need:
> > *piston seal
> > *diaphram
> > *Relay piston parts.
> > OK, let's say we can't get booster parts.
> > Do we need power assited front brakes?
> > What about bypassing the booster and use a proportioning valve so we can adjust front to rear brake bias?
http://www.jegs.com/c/Brakes-Drivetrain ... 5/10002/-1
> > Simple, cheap and they work great!
> > Lyle
> > --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, Jerry wrote:
> > > Anyone ever think of using the british remote mount boosters? Looks like you would just need to change a few fitting at the booster its self but they are available brand new and readily available.
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: honda600wiz
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 3:28 AM
> > > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: booster on ebay
> > > I send my brake boosters to Karps in California to be rebuilt, not cheap for a rebuild however. Not sure if he could offer a kit as there are three different styles of boosters for the N600 and one for the Z600. Intenal parts could be interchangeable between the boosters also, Miles will know the answer to that question.
> > > --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, dean m wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... OTORS:1123
> > > > --- On Wed, 8/25/10, lyletrudell wrote:
> > > > From: lyletrudell
> > > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] brake booster parts and restoring a Honda!
> > > > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 6:23 PM
> > > > It's only our braking system!
> > > > Nothing to worry about.
> > > [The entire original message is not included]
honda600wiz
Posts: 52
Joined: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:34 am

Re: Cost of PBB rebuild

Post by honda600wiz »

Booster rebuild at Karps runs 300 to 450 dollars, depends on if you want to resleeve the booster which is a two step process and what other parts it might take to complete the rebuild, not cheap but if you are going to keep your car its a worthy investment.
Jerry
Posts: 8
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:34 am

Re: booster on ebay

Post by Jerry »

Idle readings on most modern cars is 16-20 from what I've seen. The mini was only 850cc so it should be pretty close to our readings. Ill ask a few old british mechanics I know and see if they can get me an actual number.
From: feltonminicycle
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:27 PM
To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: booster on ebay
Probably wont work because a Honda 600 draws such a low vacuum less than 10 a real car pulls like 30 ?
Miles
--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, Jerry wrote:
> Anyone ever think of using the british remote mount boosters? Looks like you would just need to change a few fitting at the booster its self but they are available brand new and readily available.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: honda600wiz
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 3:28 AM
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: booster on ebay
> I send my brake boosters to Karps in California to be rebuilt, not cheap for a rebuild however. Not sure if he could offer a kit as there are three different styles of boosters for the N600 and one for the Z600. Intenal parts could be interchangeable between the boosters also, Miles will know the answer to that question.
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, dean m wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... item=33046
[The entire original message is not included]
Amtech
Posts: 0
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:40 am

Re: booster on ebay

Post by Amtech »

A "real" car? Thought that's what these were!! �;)
On Aug 26, 2010, at 11:27 PM, feltonminicycle wrote:
> a real car pulls like 30 ?
dean m
Posts: 55
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:23 pm

Re: Cost of PBB rebuild

Post by dean m »

have a number or address to karps?? thank you
--- On
Fri, 8/27/10, honda600wiz

wrote:
> From: honda600wiz
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Cost of PBB rebuild
> To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 3:49 AM
> Booster rebuild at Karps runs 300 to 450 dollars, depends on if you want to resleeve the booster which is a two step process and what other parts it might take to complete the rebuild, not cheap but if you are going to keep your car its a worthy investment.
CHEYENNE FLETCHER
Posts: 32
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 1:53 am

Re: booster on ebay

Post by CHEYENNE FLETCHER »

What do you mean "a real car" LOL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> feltonminicycle
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:27
> PM
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Re: booster on
> ebay
> Probably wont work because a Honda 600 draws such a low vacuum less than 10 > a real car pulls like 30 ?
> Miles
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> Jerry wrote:
> > Anyone ever think of using
> the british remote mount boosters? Looks like you would just need to change a > few fitting at the booster its self but they are available brand new and > readily available.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> honda600wiz
> > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 3:28
> AM
> > To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: booster on ebay
> > I
> send my brake boosters to Karps in California to be rebuilt, not cheap for a > rebuild however. Not sure if he could offer a kit as there are three different > styles of boosters for the N600 and one for the Z600. Intenal parts could be > interchangeable between the boosters also, Miles will know the answer to that > question.
> > --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> dean m wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... OTORS:1123
> > > --- On Wed, 8/25/10, lyletrudell
> wrote:
> > > From: lyletrudell
>
> > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] brake booster
> parts and restoring a Honda!
> > > To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 6:23 PM
> > > �
> > > It's only our braking system!
> > > Nothing to worry about.
> > [The
> entire original message is not included]
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