Oil filters

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art Remai
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Re: Oil filters [2 Attachments]

Post by art Remai »

Isn't it spring loaded though?
Sent from my iPhone
On May 27, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Jayson Allen
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[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
Confirmed it's not a match :(
Didn't realize I had a nos filter as well. You can see it is close but off in height and ID as well as the center recess.
Oh well.


On May 27, 2017, at 16:55, Chuck Dean
cadean329@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
> The website specification says it fits a Honda motorcycle. I measured my genuine Honda  600 oil filter, the OD and length of your filter is smaller, and the ID is larger.
> It is definitely not the same filter, but the question is will it work?
> I have no idea.
> I have contacted a couple of companies to see if anyone can make a small run of reusable oil filters for the Honda 600 engines.
> I'll keep the group comprised of anything I hear.
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> On May 27, 2017, at 3:45 PM, Jayson Allen
> jayson_allen@...
> [2cylinderhondas] 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > wrote:
> > In the supplies that came with my car I have a new Hastings LF574. I'm assuming it is a cross-referenced match. Can anyone confirm?
> > Manufacturer's site:
> > www.hastingsfilters.com
> > -Jayson
> > On May 27, 2017, at 00:20, 'Bill'
> > billmyong@...
> > [2cylinderhondas] > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > wrote:
> > > I have an original WIX filter with the numbers
> > > 551332 on the box.  Napa
> > > relabeled the box with 1332.  Calling the tech department at WIX 1-XXX-XXX-XXXX > > > they said two remarkable things; the filter is no longer available and there are > > > no filters available as replacements.  Second is that the paper element is > > > useless after 5 years on the shelf.  NOS is junk, good only as a display > > > item.  The filter I have was made in Korea > > > so there may be markets with available filters but the WIX tech department > > > could not find any in the USA .
> > > But that the number 551332 is still a viable number.
> > > Also, he said that if an older filter is
> > > used the filter will deteriorate and clog the engines lubricating system > > > causing damage.  So say you find a filter on e-bay or craigs list there is > > > no way of identifying its age.
> > > What can be done is to contact Honda and
> > > if there is enough volume they may resume production.  But as for the > > > after market community I doubt there will be much attention.
> > > Bill
> > > From:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > ]
> > > Sent:
> > > Friday, May 26, 2017 8:31 PM
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [2cylinderhondas] Oil
> > > filters
> > > For those interested...
> > > Neither the Honda CB750 oil filter or the High Flo HF-401 oil filter > > > will fit the Honda 600 engine.
> > > I am still looking!
> > > Chuck (mobile)
> > > Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> > > Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> > > On May 22, 2017, at 11:24 AM, Chuck Dean > > cadean329@...
> > > > wrote:
> > > > When I look at the original Honda oil filter I have, it's suspiciously > > > > looks exactly like the old filters are used on my Honda CB 750 K motorcycle. I > > > > have ordered a filter for a CB 750 K, and we'll see if it is dimensionally the > > > > same. If it is I will report back.
> > > > I called Fram corporation, but they could not give me a part number or > > > > equivalent part number that would fit a Honda easy 600 or eight and 600.
> > > > When I did a Google search for Honda easy 600 oil filter, I got a > > > > picture of a high flow HF401 oil filter, which looks exactly the same as a > > > > Honda filter including the O-rings.. I have also ordered one of these.
> > > > I am determined to find a replacement oil filter!
> > > > Chuck (mobile)
> > > > Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> > > > Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> > > > On May 20, 2017, at 5:55 AM,
> > > > rstevens19@...
> > > > [2cylinderhondas] > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Kevin,
> > > > > Dont know how many miles you are
> > > > > planning to put on your 600, but the manual says change filter every 6000 miles.
> > > > > That said, if you only need one or two, you may want to pay the piper to be > > > > > sure to take care of your baby.
> > > > > I would think a $20 $30
> > > > > investment is small. Then there is my story. Back in 1972 when I got my first > > > > > AZ600, the nearest Honda car dealer was about 50 miles away and since I drove > > > > > the car for 6 years and put over 95,000 miles on it, I went through more than a > > > > > few filters. Working in the motorcycle industry back then, I found a Honda > > > > > motorcycle filter that would do the job. I cannot remember the filter number so > > > > > I have attempted to locate the same. However, I HAVE NOT confirmed fitment to > > > > > my current AZ600. The filter Fram CH6007 (with O rings) or CH6008 (w/o O rings) > > > > > MIGHT be suitable. I have compared the dimensions with a 06154-551-505 Honda filter > > > > > (both in hand) and they are very similar but not exact. Overall it is pretty > > > > > close except for the filter bolt seal height on the top. The Fram filter has a > > > > > depressed interface, where the Honda filter has a simple sealing washer lip.
> > > > > The position of this top seal is critical for proper oil flow through the > > > > > filter and bypass valve function.  I plan to do a dimensional check of > > > > > these interfaces in the near future. There are many companies marketing this > > > > > filter (see Fram website for Competitor numbers) and I have found them online > > > > > for under $2 and they are readily available at auto parts stores, Amazon and > > > > > Walmart in the $5 - $10 range.
> > > > > Cautiously, I offer this information,
> > > > > Richard
> > > > > From:
> > > > > Kevin Gailey
> > > > > krgailey@...
> > > > > [2cylinderhondas]
> > > > > Sent:
> > > > > Saturday, May 20, 2017
> > > > > 1:55 AM
> > > > > To:
> > > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject:
> > > > > [2cylinderhondas] Oil filters
> > > > > Anybody come up with an oil filter solution? A
> > > > > substitute or cheaper than hoarders charging a fortune?
> > > > > Thx All, Kevin Gailey
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > Virus-free.
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rstevens19
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Re: Oil filters

Post by rstevens19 »

Here is an alternate for a genuine Honda Oil Filer:
I have done the research and dimensional analysis and this is what I came up with.
A Fram CH6007 oil filter is the same diameter and is 4 mm shorter than the Honda filter, 06154-551-505 (replaces 15461-551-315).  In addition, the Fram filter uses bore seals rather than face seals which do not seal against the bolt. Further, the Fram filter also has recessed sealing surfaces on both top and bottom. However, I have found a simple solution to all of these issues. The top recess is the most important issue as seen in a view of the filter cavity in the crankcase. The filter must seal to the cavity boss that extends about 1 mm from the inner surface. My solution was to purchase a bronze washer at ACE Hardware which is 3.2 mm x 19 mm x 32 mm (actually a 3/4 inch nominal thrust washer) to make-up the dimensional difference on the top recess.
It fit perfectly in the Fram recess and allows the use of Honda rubber washers top and bottom. Note: If your make-up washer has too large an OD it WILL NOT seal to the Fram bore seal and oil WILL NOT flow through the filter. If your old Honda washers are still good, you can just install and go! Caution!
Old washers may not be good, mine werent.
The bottom washer MUST seal to the filter bolt on the ID to ensure flow through the filter. Again at ACE Hardware I found rubber (not vinyl) hose washers that fit perfect!  They make a good seal to the bolt and fit the bottom recess. Finally, I checked the overall position of the Fram filter on the bolt to ensure proper filtering flow and proper bypass flow. I have provided some pictures to help explain the alternate installation.
rstevens19
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Re: Oil filters

Post by rstevens19 »

Sorry, photos for the filter alternative are in a photo album separate from the text.
Don B Laughton
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Re: Oil filters

Post by Don B Laughton »

Just ordered 40 genuine filter from Japan. Figure 60-90 days. $13.45ea plus postage from Los Angeles. Interested?  Don Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:03 PM,
rstevens19@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
Sorry, photos for the filter alternative are in a photo album separate from the text.
Chuck Dean
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Re: Oil filters

Post by Chuck Dean »

As I said before, I will take four. = Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
On Jun 7, 2017, at 8:14 PM, Don B Laughton
dontranspac@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
Just ordered 40 genuine filter from Japan. Figure 60-90 days. $13.45ea plus postage from Los Angeles. Interested?  Don Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:03 PM, rstevens19@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
> Sorry, photos for the filter alternative are in a photo album separate from the text.
Scott Walters
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Re: Oil filters

Post by Scott Walters »

Hi Chuck,
If you're talking about the original part, please deal me in for two.
When you get them, let me know how I can get payment to you, and
I'll get you my address.
Thanks,
-scott
On 0, "Chuck Dean
cadean329@...
[2cylinderhondas]" wrote:
> As I said before, I will take four. ****
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> [1]Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> On Jun 7, 2017, at 8:14 PM, Don B Laughton [2]
dontranspac@...
> [2cylinderhondas] wrote:
> Just ordered 40 genuine filter from Japan. Figure 60-90 days. $13.45ea
> plus postage from Los Angeles. Interested? Don
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:03 PM, [4]
rstevens19@...
[2cylinderhondas]
> wrote:
> Sorry, photos for the filter alternative are in a photo album separate
> from the text.
> References
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Rick Larson
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Re: Oil filters

Post by Rick Larson »

I will take two. Let me know when you get them. Also I have two body's and one complete  car for sale where can I list them?
On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:17 PM, "Don B Laughton dontranspac@... [2cylinderhondas]" wrote:
Just ordered 40 genuine filter from Japan. Figure 60-90 days. $13.45ea plus postage from Los Angeles. Interested?  Don Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:03 PM, rstevens19@...
[2cylinderhondas] Sorry, photos for the filter alternative are in a photo album separate from the text.
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club_hondafr
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Re: Oil filters

Post by club_hondafr »

I'll take 2 as well. Thanks!
On Jun 8, 2017, at 05:52, Rick Larson
americantravelingshows@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
I will take two. Let me know when you get them. Also I have two body's and one complete  car for sale where can I list them?
On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:17 PM, "Don B Laughton
dontranspac@...
[2cylinderhondas]" wrote:
Just ordered 40 genuine filter from Japan. Figure 60-90 days. $13.45ea plus postage from Los Angeles. Interested?  Don Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:03 PM, rstevens19@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
> Sorry, photos for the filter alternative are in a photo album separate from the text.
rstevens19
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Re: Oil filters

Post by rstevens19 »

Don,
I would be interested in purchasing two filters.  Also, do you have other parts available?
Thanks, Richard
From:
Don B Laughton dontranspac@...
[2cylinderhondas]
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Subject:
Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Oil filters
Just ordered 40 genuine filter from Japan. Figure 60-90 days. $13.45ea plus postage from Los Angeles. Interested?  Don Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:03 PM, rstevens19@...
[2cylinderhondas] Sorry, photos for the filter alternative are in a photo album separate from > the text.
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chasgould
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Re: Oil filters

Post by chasgould »

I would definitely be interested. Can I please reserve four or five for all of my Z600's.
Charles
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