Transmission mount or rear mount

paul tate · Post by **paul tate** » Sat May 29, 2010 4:59 pm

Hey Lyle,
I replaced the bushing in my shift linkage with a piece of urethane spring material I had laying around. I think it was purchased from MSC. It comes in different diameters, lengths and hardnesses. The material I have is red in color which I think dictates the hardness, it's 1 1/4" diameter and I beleive came in a 12" stick. I cut it to the desired width with a hack saw, shaped it with a die grinder and drilled a hole thru it. It seems to work fine and certanly got rid of most of the play in the shifter.
Paul

--- On Fri, 5/28/10, John Brown wrote:
> From: John Brown Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Transmission mount or rear mount
> To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 7:13 PM
> Hi,
> I ordered it on-line, I believe it was about $40. DEVCON
> makes two
> different versions. _*FLEXANE 80:* _ Shore A, 87 durometer
> and _*FLEXANE
> 94:*_ Shore A, 97 durometer.
> I did a quick search on the web and came up with this
> source, but I am
> sure I've seen it in hardware stores.
> Here's a link for this product (the first one I found)
http://www.markingpendepot.com/browsepr ... iquid.html
> Hope this helps,
> John
> lyletrudell wrote:
> > Hi John, that is a clever way to fix it.
> > Where do you get the Devcon?
> > 80 is probably the durometer of the hardened
> material.
> > Maybe they make a different hardness?
> > I was also thinking that it might work on my gear
> shift linkage in the
> > car. The rubber bushing is hard and cracked.
> > Lyle
> > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > ,
> "John"
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Paul,
> > > I modified a rear mount using a fast drying,
> urethane casting
> > product called DEVCON FLEXANE 80, it's available in 1
> lb portions in
> > both liquid and putty versions.
> > > I removed the all the loose rubber, cleaned all
> the metal parts,
> > wrapped some plastic sheeting around the mount then
> poured in the
> > liquid while propping the bracket with four holes in a
> centered,
> > vertical position. It is much stiffer than the
> original mount, but
> > still maintains some flexibility.
> > > It works well for me.
> > > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > ,
> paul tate wrote:
> > > > Given that most of the rear mounts are close
> to 40 years old and
> > the rubber is probably separated or broken like mine.
> Has anyone had
> > any success repairing or modifying? A friend suggested
> modifying to
> > use donut style mounts similar to the sub frame
> mounts. Any thoughts?
> ------------------------------------

lyletrudell · Post by **lyletrudell** » Sun May 30, 2010 6:18 am

Paul, another good idea.
I machine a lot of plastic in my shop, Delrin mostly.
Delrin is great to machine and stable, but too hard for bushings.
Urethane in it's softest compound is hard to hold and machine, but a perfect material for bushings.
I used to make plastic injection molds for a living until everything was sent to China......don't get me started.
I don't know much about the shrinkage or hardness of Devcon or other liquid type plastics. But making a simple aluminum mold would be an easy/cheap way to reproduce some of our rubber parts.
Or we could even make a mold from a good "old" part.
Something to think about.
If every member made one reproduction part for our Honda's we would be all set! I am sure we have a diverse group of skilled people in this club.
Other car clubs have done this.
Lyle

--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, paul tate wrote:
> Hey Lyle,
> I replaced the bushing in my shift linkage with a piece of urethane spring material I had laying around. I think it was purchased from MSC. It comes in different diameters, lengths and hardnesses. The material I have is red in color which I think dictates the hardness, it's 1 1/4" diameter and I beleive came in a 12" stick. I cut it to the desired width with a hack saw, shaped it with a die grinder and drilled a hole thru it. It seems to work fine and certanly got rid of most of the play in the shifter.
> Paul
> --- On Fri, 5/28/10, John Brown wrote:
> > From: John Brown
> > Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Transmission mount or rear mount
> > To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 7:13 PM
> > Hi,
> > I ordered it on-line, I believe it was about $40. DEVCON
> > makes two
> > different versions. _*FLEXANE 80:* _ Shore A, 87 durometer
> > and _*FLEXANE
> > 94:*_ Shore A, 97 durometer.
> > I did a quick search on the web and came up with this
> > source, but I am
> > sure I've seen it in hardware stores.
> > Here's a link for this product (the first one I found)
http://www.markingpendepot.com/browsepr ... iquid.html
> > Hope this helps,
> > John
> > lyletrudell wrote:
> > > Hi John, that is a clever way to fix it.
> > > Where do you get the Devcon?
> > > 80 is probably the durometer of the hardened
> > material.
> > > Maybe they make a different hardness?
> > > I was also thinking that it might work on my gear
> > shift linkage in the
> > > car. The rubber bushing is hard and cracked.
> > > Lyle
> > > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > ,
> > "John"
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi Paul,
> > > > I modified a rear mount using a fast drying,
> > urethane casting
> > > product called DEVCON FLEXANE 80, it's available in 1
> > lb portions in
> > > both liquid and putty versions.
> > > > I removed the all the loose rubber, cleaned all
> > the metal parts,
> > > wrapped some plastic sheeting around the mount then
> > poured in the
> > > liquid while propping the bracket with four holes in a
> > centered,
> > > vertical position. It is much stiffer than the
> > original mount, but
> > > still maintains some flexibility.
> > > > It works well for me.
> > > > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > ,
> > paul tate wrote:
> > > > > Given that most of the rear mounts are close
> > to 40 years old and
> > > the rubber is probably separated or broken like mine.
> > Has anyone had
> > > any success repairing or modifying? A friend suggested
> > modifying to
> > > use donut style mounts similar to the sub frame
> > mounts. Any thoughts?
> > ------------------------------------

paul tate · Post by **paul tate** » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:19 pm

Marshall,
Update on rear engine mount repair. I initially welded it solid......Bad game plan! It caused an enormous amount of vibration inside the car. Since I had an extra tube of windshield urethane laying around I gave it a try. So far, it seems to work fine. I filled the entire cavity of the mount with urethane which is more solid than the factory rubber but doesn't seem to cause any vibration issues. It did take a very long time to dry due to the thickness. If someone else wanted to use this method of repair, I would recommend filling half the cavity with urethane and letting it dry before filling the other half.
Devcon 80 is probably a better product to use but a tube of urethane at the local glass shop cost me about $6.50.

--- On
Sat, 5/29/10, Marshall

wrote:
From: Marshall
Subject: [
anzhonda
600owners] Re: Transmission mount or rear mount
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 29, 2010, 1:15 AM
Hi Blake, Devcon products are expensive in UK. Windshield urethane may be worth considering as an economic alternative, although Devcon 80 & 94 are made for such a job !
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, blake neilson wrote:
> I am not dealing with this question now but I know I will need to at some point.� I imagined I would replace the original rubber with windshield urethane.� Pretty tough stuff but maybe too stiff when set.
> --- On Thu, 5/27/10, Marshall wrote:
> From: Marshall
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Transmission mount or rear mount > To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 1:49 PM
> �
> I was thinking about this very thing just a few hours ago. I am considering looking into pouring cold cast rubber into the contained area.
> My centre section is still holding it's position..... just.
> It is possible to purchase various shore hardnesses of the cold cast type & it bonds very strongly to prepared steel surfaces.
> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, paul tate wrote:
> > Given that most of the rear mounts are close to 40 years old and the rubber is probably separated or broken like mine.� Has anyone had any success repairing or modifying?� A friend suggested modifying to use donut style mounts similar to the sub frame mounts.� Any thoughts?