corrected valve clearance.

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Re: corrected valve clearance.

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Blake, Lyle;
And all others, we come together here to make our Honda 600 cars better.  Learn that there are other ways to do things, not better but just as good.  Timing the engine is not rocket science, and all the parts are written in many books.   So lets have some fun, there is another car show this weekend.
Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Lyle
> Sent:
> Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:20 PM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] Re:
> corrected valve clearance.
> Blake,it is all good. Everytime I come to this site I get some info that > helps me with my coupe. I post stuff that "hopefully" is useful in some way.
> This is a very small group of owners, and very few of us post > anything.
> Bill has helped me alot, so I was defending him.
> Sorry for
> jumping on you.
> Honda 600 folks have to stick together.
> Back to valve
> adjustment, I set mine as close to .003"-.004" as I could get. I did grind the > rocker arms(valve end)to get a good surface, only removed about.003". I still > had plenty of adjustment on the eccentric shafts.
> See photo
> section.
> Lyle
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> blake neilson wrote:
> > Just trying to
> clarify the point. And I agree, Bill's advice over the years via > > this > group has been excellent, so I had no doubt he was capable of setting the
> > clearance correctly. Yet we do have some members who are getting > their feet wet > > in the maintenance/repair side of the hobby so I > wanted to eliminate any > > confusion. I was there once myself at the > tender age of 17 when I bought my 600 > > new. It's all good.
> > Blake
> > From: Lyle
>
> > To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 1:33:38 AM
> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re:
> corrected valve clearance.
> > Yep, your right, it was
> backwards. But, Bill has set so many valve clearances
> > over the years
> that he probably got burned out from posting the same info over > > and > over again for 30 years. Like all of us, he does this to help the Honda 600
> > folks.....for free!
> > Lighten up!
> > I made a mistake once
> also, but I reconciled it!
> > I hope my spelling is correct.
> Lyle
> > --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> blake neilson
> > wrote:
> Regardless of what the optimal spec is, .003 or .004, I couldn't reconcile the
> > > following statement pasted from an earlier
> reply:
> > > "If the .003 gauge does not go but the .004
> does, then it is set properly."
> > > In other words, if
> a .004 is a go how could a .003 (a thinner feeler gauge) > > > NOT > go? I will happily accept .003 as optimal but the go/no go method
> > described is backwards. If a .004 is a go then anything less, .003, .002, > .0015
> > > would also be a go.
> > > Â
> > Â
> > > From: "billmyong@"
>
> > > To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 8:07:59 PM
> > > Subject: RE:
> [anzhonda600owners] corrected valve clearance.
> > > Â
> > > 
> > > Lets take a close look at what is being
> done.
> > > Â
> > > The optimum setting is .003. The .004 to
> .005 is not the best setting when a
> > > situation
> that is caused by the rocker to cam rolling over and creating a gap
> >at
> > > the rear of the cam lobe beats the center of
> the rocker arm face.  The timing
> > > necessary to
> reduce the clearance as in Paragraph 7 in the Coupe supplement,
> page 41, says this. .004 to .005 is to loose causing poor performance. > Have
> > > you noticed that there is a indentation on
> the center of the rocker arm
> > >face?Â
> That condition is because of a loose adjustment. Or better yet, have you
> > > noticed that it is hard to keep an adjustment because a previous > owner put to > > > much torque on the rocker arm bolt causing a dimple > in the rocker arm shaft. > > >If
> > > you
> don't figure out how to adjust the rockers to the recommended .003, then
> > >you
> > > will have rocker arm slap.Â
> Causing the indentation at the center of the
> > >rocker
> > > arm face
> > > Â
> > > .003 is the setting
> as stated in the Sedan shop manual page 2-4 under normal > > > valve > clearance.
> > > Â
> > > Bill
> > > Â
> > > Â
> > > Â
> > > -----Original
> Message-----
> > > >From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > >[mailto:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ]On
> Behalf Of brad fenn
> > > >Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 5:47
> AM
> > > >To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] corrected valve clearance.
> > > >Â
> > > >I caught that too. It had me
> thinking for a second.
> > From: blake neilson
> > > >To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > >Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 7:40:14 AM
> > > >Subject: Re:
> [anzhonda600owners] corrected valve clearance.
> >Â
> > > >Don't you mean that a .004 should go and a .005
> should not?
> > > From:
> "billmyong@"
> > > >To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > >Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 2:27:34 AM
> > > >Subject: RE:
> [anzhonda600owners] corrected valve clearance.
> >Â
> > > >How to?  I set it with the .003 and .004 feeler
> gauges ( kind of a go/no go
> > > >system)Â this way
> you don't get it to tight. I set it with the .004 and
> > >check it
> > > >with the .003. If the .003 gauge does not go
> but the .004 does, then it is
> > >set
> >properly.
> > > >Â
> >Bill
> > > >Â
> > > >Â
> >-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > >>[mailto:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ]On
> Behalf Of Steven Michelsen
> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, April 06,
> 2011 2:29 PM
> > > >>To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > >>Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] corrected valve
> clearance.
> > > >>Â
> >>Hey Mike,
> > > >>Â
> > > >>The book says
> .004". See the bottom half of this page.
> http://www.honda600coupe.com/Adjusting_ ... ances.html
> > >>Â
> > > >>Steve
> > > >>Â
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>From: Mega
> > > >>>To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > >>>Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:19 PM
> >>>Subject: [anzhonda600owners] corrected valve clearance.
> > > >>>Â
> > > >>>A Big
> thanks to Kevin for not only telling my valve lash was adjustable, but
> > > >>>also for telling me how to do it. I
> should have read the manual more when I
> >>>reassembled my engine.
> >>>My valve clearance was way too big.
> > > >>>After adjusting them the valves, the
> tapping sound was totally gone, and my
> >>>engine has much more power. It's like I added a cylinder.
> > > >>>Just curious: What clearance do
> most of you like to use on your valves? I
> > >went
> > > >>>with 0.008" on all valves.
> > > >>>thanks again,
> >>>Mike.
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