Parts Supplier Needed

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Kevin Lister
Posts: 74
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:24 pm

Re: Parts Supplier Needed

Post by Kevin Lister »

Ok. Sounds good. I know Miles had a guy that was doing them for him but I think he told me the cost went up or the guy doesn't like doing them or something. Miles?
Anyway, I have a couple of master cylinders I'd like to get re-sleeved. So, you recommend moving to DOT5? I've never had to replace the DOT3 fluid in any car I've owned. Is there a reason why you would change it so often? Moisture build-up? Is DOT5 more corrosive than DOT3?
kev
--- On
Wed, 8/3/11, billmyong@...

wrote:
From: billmyong@...
Subject: RE: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 12:51 AM

Hi Kev;
This is from their site, and they do say they will brass sleeve your cylinders.  Brass sleeving is a normal service to bringing back warn aluminum brake cylinders.  Using DOT5 brake fluid keeps your brake system running for a long time.  Yes there is maintenance, but the amount of maintenance using DOT5 compared to DOT3 is far less.
The alternative is to change out your DOT3 fluid every other year or less.  I change out DOT5 about every 5 to 6 years.  Yes there have been cylinders that had to be rebuilt, but the inside of the cylinder on a vehicle using DOT5 is just like the day it was put together.   The only issue I have had is corrosion on the pistons under the seals where the fluid was changed over to DOT5 with out doing a complete rebuild.  There was some DOT3 left under the seal that caused the piston seal area to corrode and fail.  Attention to detail is the key, working with used parts can be costly, that is why using a resource like White Post Restorations is a good idea.
Bill
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Kevin Lister
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Re: Parts Supplier Needed

Post by Kevin Lister »

Dave,
When is the last time you had the guy do a cylinder for you? Was it recent? How much was it?
kev
--- On
Wed, 8/3/11, Dave Rulez

wrote:
From: Dave Rulez
Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 3:42 AM
I can tell you Sierra specialties did my master cylinder and it came out fantastic. He is also the guy Miles has used for years.
Dave
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Kevin Lister wrote:
> Bill,
> �
> Do you trust the folks at White Post to sleeve the master cylinders in brass?
> �
> kev
> --- On Thu, 7/28/11, billmyong@... wrote:
> From: billmyong@...
> Subject: RE: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed > To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 12:43 AM
> �
> Pete;
> �
> White Post restorations at www.whitepost.com restores the brake system, master cylinders, boosters, calipers, rear cylinders and the proportioning valve.� > � > Or you can spend the same amount doing it yourself and no warrantee.
> �
> Bill
> �
> �
> �
> �
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
]On Behalf Of bitsurfer001
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 8:11 AM
> To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
> �
> Johnny-
> Shoot. I wish I had seen this earlier...I purchased one off of e-bay.
> I am looking for a brake master cylinder rebuild kit. Any suggestions?
> I suspect I will need wheel cylinder and caliper rebuild kits as well.
> Where do you get your parts? Looking for a good supplier.
> Thanks.
> Pete
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "johnny.siu@" wrote:
> > hi Pete,
> > i have a z600, i live in san francisco and i have an extra carb rebuild kit for you. contact me here if you are interested. johnnysiu@ > > cheers, > > -j
> > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "bitsurfer001" wrote:
> > > Just bought a 72 z600 and am looking for a good part supply house.
> > > I live in Berkeley, Ca.
> > > Any suggestions?
> > > Need a carb
rebuild kit first...accelerator pump diaphram.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Pete
Jerry A
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Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:09 pm

Re: Parts Supplier Needed

Post by Jerry A »

I had Karps http://www.resleeve.com/ do my master in stainless, was ~$125.
From:
Kevin Lister To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 10:37 AM Subject:
Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
Dave,
When is the last time you had the guy do a cylinder for you? Was it recent? How much was it?
kev
--- On
Wed, 8/3/11, Dave Rulez

wrote:
From: Dave Rulez
Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 3:42 AM
I can tell you Sierra specialties did my master cylinder and it came out fantastic. He is also the guy Miles has used for years.
Dave
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Kevin Lister wrote:
> Bill,
> �
> Do you trust the folks at White Post to sleeve the master cylinders in brass?
> �
> kev
> --- On Thu, 7/28/11, billmyong@... wrote:
> From: billmyong@...
> Subject: RE: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed > To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 12:43
AM
> �
> Pete;
> �
> White Post restorations at www.whitepost.com restores the brake system, master cylinders, boosters, calipers, rear cylinders and the proportioning valve.� > � > Or you can spend the same amount doing it yourself and no warrantee.
> �
> Bill
> �
> �
> �
> �
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
]On Behalf Of bitsurfer001
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 8:11 AM
> To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
> �
> Johnny-
> Shoot. I wish I had seen this earlier...I purchased one off of e-bay.
> I am looking for a brake master cylinder rebuild kit. Any suggestions?
> I suspect I will need wheel cylinder and caliper rebuild kits as well.
> Where do you get your parts? Looking for a good supplier.
> Thanks.
> Pete
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "johnny.siu@" wrote:
> > hi Pete,
> > i have a z600, i live in san francisco and i have an extra carb rebuild kit for you. contact me here if you are interested. johnnysiu@ > > cheers, > > -j
> > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "bitsurfer001" wrote:
> > > Just bought a 72 z600 and am looking for a good part supply house.
> > > I live in Berkeley, Ca.
> > > Any suggestions?
> > > Need a carb
rebuild kit first...accelerator pump diaphram.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Pete
Kevin Lister
Posts: 74
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:24 pm

Re: Parts Supplier Needed

Post by Kevin Lister »

Wow! Stainless? Cool!
kev
--- On
Wed, 8/3/11, Jerry A

wrote:
From: Jerry A
Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
To: "anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 10:52 AM
I had Karps http://www.resleeve.com/ do my master in stainless, was ~$125.
From:
Kevin Lister
To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 10:37 AM
Subject:
Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
Dave,
When is the last time you had the guy do a cylinder for you? Was it recent? How much was it?
kev
--- On
Wed, 8/3/11, Dave Rulez

wrote:
> From: Dave Rulez
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
> To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 3:42 AM
> I can tell you Sierra specialties did my master cylinder and it came out fantastic. He is also the guy Miles has used for years.
> Dave
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> , Kevin Lister wrote:
> > Bill,
> > �
> > Do you trust the folks at White Post to sleeve the master cylinders in brass?
> > �
> > kev
> > --- On Thu, 7/28/11, billmyong@... wrote:
> > From: billmyong@...
> > Subject: RE: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed > > To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 12:43 AM
> > �
> > Pete;
> > �
> > White Post restorations at www.whitepost.com restores the brake system, master cylinders, boosters, calipers, rear cylinders and the proportioning valve.� > > � > > Or you can spend the same amount doing it yourself and no warrantee.
> > �
> > Bill
> > �
> > �
> > �
> > �
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ]On Behalf Of bitsurfer001
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 8:11 AM
> > To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
> > �
> > Johnny-
> > Shoot. I wish I had seen this earlier...I purchased one off of e-bay.
> > I am looking for a brake master cylinder rebuild kit. Any suggestions?
> > I suspect I will need wheel cylinder and caliper rebuild kits as well.
> > Where do you get your parts? Looking for a good supplier.
> > Thanks.
> > Pete
> > --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> , "johnny.siu@" wrote:
> > > hi Pete,
> > > i have a z600, i live in san francisco and i have an extra carb rebuild kit for you. contact me > here if you are interested. johnnysiu@ > > > cheers, > > > -j
> > > --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> , "bitsurfer001" wrote:
> > > > Just bought a 72 z600 and am looking for a good part supply house.
> > > > I live in Berkeley, Ca.
> > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > Need a carb rebuild kit first...accelerator pump diaphram.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Pete
Lyle
Posts: 41
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:15 pm

Re: Parts Supplier Needed

Post by Lyle »

I have had brake, clutch and hydraulic cylinders done in SS and brass. I have even done a few myself. I actually prefer the brass sleeves because they are totally non-corrosive and don't react with the steel/plated steel pistons. Also the sleeves will wear and not damage the pistons. I use silicone brake fluid on all my old cars. If they use a 300 series SS sleeve or brass you wont have any problems for years!
My 2 cents.
Lyle
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Kevin Lister wrote:
> Wow! Stainless? Cool!
> kev
> --- On Wed, 8/3/11, Jerry A wrote:
> From: Jerry A
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
> To: "
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
" Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 10:52 AM
> I had Karps
http://www.resleeve.com/
do my master in stainless, was ~$125.
> From: Kevin Lister
> To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
> Dave,
> When is the last time you had the guy do a cylinder for you? Was it recent? How much was it?
> kev
> --- On Wed, 8/3/11, Dave Rulez wrote:
> From: Dave Rulez
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
> To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 3:42 AM
> I can tell you Sierra specialties did my master cylinder and it came out fantastic. He is also the guy Miles has used for years.
> Dave
> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Kevin Lister wrote:
> > Bill,
> > Â
> > Do you trust the folks at White Post to sleeve the master cylinders in brass?
> > Â
> > kev
> > --- On Thu, 7/28/11, billmyong@ wrote:
> > From: billmyong@
> > Subject: RE: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
> > To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 12:43 AM
> > Â
> > Pete;
> > Â
> > White Post restorations at www.whitepost.com restores the brake system, master cylinders, boosters, calipers, rear cylinders and the proportioning valve.Â
> > Â
> > Or you can spend the same amount doing it yourself and no warrantee.
> > Â
> > Bill
> > Â
> > Â
> > Â
> > Â
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
]On Behalf Of bitsurfer001
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 8:11 AM
> > To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
> > Â
> > Johnny-
> > Shoot. I wish I had seen this earlier...I purchased one off of e-bay.
> > I am looking for a brake master cylinder rebuild kit. Any suggestions?
> > I suspect I will need wheel cylinder and caliper rebuild kits as well.
> > Where do you get your parts? Looking for a good supplier.
> > Thanks.
> > Pete
> > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "johnny.siu@" wrote:
> > > hi Pete,
> > > i have a z600, i live in san francisco and i have an extra carb rebuild kit for you. contact me here if you are interested. johnnysiu@
> > > cheers,
> > > -j
> > > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "bitsurfer001" wrote:
> > > > Just bought a 72 z600 and am looking for a good part supply house.
> > > > I live in Berkeley, Ca.
> > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > Need a carb rebuild kit first...accelerator pump diaphram.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Pete
friend
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Joined: Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:54 pm

Re: Parts Supplier Needed

Post by friend »

DOT3 is made to capture moisture, in two years of regular driving a DOT3 system will be about 50% water and water doesn't compress giving you a weak peddle.
Also, the mixture of H2O and DOT3 will cause corrosion.  Changing the fluid in your vehicles is a maintenance item and is necessary.  Can you keep it in there longer?  Yep, and the contamination (the black sooty stuff floating in the master cylinder reservoir) is a visual reality.  DOT5 is silicone fluid, it is inert, meaning it does not collect water.  Does moisture get into the system?  Yes and you have to bleed them every couple of years.  Do they have the black sooty stuff like DOT3, some what but the DOT5 acts as a lubricant and is really great with the rubber.  So where does the sooty stuff come from?  Well, the next time you polish the door handles on your Sedan take a look at the sooty stuff on the rag.  Yes, the pistons in the cylinders will rub against the cylinder and like polishing it makes the sooty material.  As stated earlier DOT5 acts like a lubricant and keeps the polishing action down.
Yes, Miles also gave me their lead, and I have used Sierra Specialty Automotive however they will only sleeve the cylinder in brass. But, they don't rebuild your Honda 600 wheel, master or booster cylinders and units.  They will cast in the leading edge on the wheel cylinder if it is corroded making it like brand new.   White Post does rebuild and getting a restored cylinder ready to bolt on is a lot better than doing it your self.
Why not use stainless steel in aluminum castings?  Too often the aluminum casting will crack, so most shops will not sleeve aluminum castings in stainless steel.  But on the early Honda 600 Sedan booster that is a real option as it has a cast iron cylinder.
Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Lyle
> Sent:
> Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:59 PM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] Re:
> Parts Supplier Needed
> I have had brake, clutch and hydraulic cylinders done in SS and brass. I > have even done a few myself. I actually prefer the brass sleeves because they > are totally non-corrosive and don't react with the steel/plated steel pistons.
> Also the sleeves will wear and not damage the pistons. I use silicone brake > fluid on all my old cars. If they use a 300 series SS sleeve or brass you wont > have any problems for years!
> My 2 cents.
> Lyle
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> Kevin Lister wrote:
> > Wow!
> Stainless? Cool!
> > �
> > kev
> > --- On Wed,
> 8/3/11, Jerry A wrote:
> > From:
> Jerry A
> > Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re:
> Parts Supplier Needed
> > To: "
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> "
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 10:52 AM
> > �
> > I had Karps
> http://www.resleeve.com/
> do my master in
> stainless, was ~$125.
> > From: Kevin Lister
> > To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 10:37 AM
> > Subject: Re:
> [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
> �
> > Dave,
> �
> > When is the last time you had the guy do a cylinder for you?
> Was it recent? How much was it?
> > �
> > kev
> --- On Wed, 8/3/11, Dave Rulez wrote:
> > From: Dave Rulez
> > Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
> > To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 3:42 AM
> > �
> > I can tell you Sierra specialties did my master cylinder and > it came out fantastic. He is also the guy Miles has used for years.
> > Dave
> > --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> Kevin Lister wrote:
> Bill,
> > > �
> > > Do you trust the folks at White Post
> to sleeve the master cylinders in brass?
> > > �
> kev
> > > --- On Thu, 7/28/11, billmyong@
> wrote:
> > > From:
> billmyong@
> > > Subject: RE: [anzhonda600owners]
> Re: Parts Supplier Needed
> > > To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 12:43 AM
> > > �
> > > Pete;
> > > �
> > > White Post
> restorations at www.whitepost.com restores the brake system, master cylinders, > boosters, calipers, rear cylinders and the proportioning valve.�
> > > �
> > > Or you can spend the same amount doing it
> yourself and no warrantee.
> > > �
> > > Bill
> > �
> > > �
> > > �
> �
> > > -----Original Message-----
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ]On
> Behalf Of bitsurfer001
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 8:11
> AM
> > > To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Parts Supplier Needed
> > > �
> > > Johnny-
> Shoot. I wish I had seen this earlier...I purchased one off of e-bay.
> > I am looking for a brake master cylinder rebuild kit. Any > suggestions?
> > > I suspect I will need wheel cylinder and caliper
> rebuild kits as well.
> > > Where do you get your parts? Looking for a
> good supplier.
> > > Thanks.
> > > Pete
> > --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> "johnny.siu@" wrote:
> > > > hi
> Pete,
> > > > i have a z600, i live in san francisco and i have an > extra carb rebuild kit for you. contact me here if you are interested.
> johnnysiu@
> > > > cheers,
> > > > -j
> > > > --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> "bitsurfer001" wrote:
> > Just bought a 72 z600 and am looking for a good part supply > house.
> > > > > I live in Berkeley, Ca.
> Any suggestions?
> > > > > Need a carb rebuild kit
> first...accelerator pump diaphram.
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > Pete
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