stuck piston, any ideas?

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T W S
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Re: stuck piston, any ideas?

Post by T W S »

cool beans Richard, glad it worked! just curious, did You have a pnumatic grease gun or did You use a manual grease gun. I was going to ask how messy it was but i forgot when i was working on that Continental, the piston diameter was like 3" so there was a lot more volume of grease. is that engine in an N or a Z600?
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Fri, October 15, 2010 6:15:46 PM Subject:
[anzhonda600owners] Re: stuck piston, any ideas?
It's been a good day. I made my grease zerk fitting on sparkplug adapter and was able to unstick the piston. It will be just a matter of days now before I can fire it up and see if rings are still good or if I need to pull the engine apart.
Hope everyone here has a good weekend. And thanks again for the multitude of good ideas.
Richard p.s. if anyone needs to use this adapter, I am willing to loan it out. Just shoot me a mail or a message or call me.
XXX-XXX-XXXX richard.morris@...
tgm_enterprizes
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Re: stuck piston, any ideas?

Post by tgm_enterprizes »

I bought the cheapest grease gun ($7.95) from NAPA as well as the cheapest lithium grease. The piston was near the top of the cylinder and I already had the cylinder full of PB blaster and liquid wrench (to the bottom of the spark plug hole). So I didn't have to pump in a lot of grease.
This engine is the original engine in a 1970 AN600. Hasn't been tagged since 1979.
Richard
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anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, T W S wrote:
> cool beans Richard, glad it worked! just curious, did You have a pnumatic grease
> gun or did You use a manual grease gun. I was going to ask how messy it was but
> i forgot when i was working on that Continental, the piston diameter was like 3"
> so there was a lot more volume of grease. is that engine in an N or a Z600?
> From: tgm_enterprizes
> To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, October 15, 2010 6:15:46 PM
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: stuck piston, any ideas?
> It's been a good day. I made my grease zerk fitting on sparkplug adapter and was
> able to unstick the piston. It will be just a matter of days now before I can
> fire it up and see if rings are still good or if I need to pull the engine
> apart.
> Hope everyone here has a good weekend. And thanks again for the multitude of
> good ideas.
> Richard
> p.s. if anyone needs to use this adapter, I am willing to loan it out. Just
> shoot me a mail or a message or call me.
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> richard.morris@...
JOHN BURKHIMER
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Re: stuck piston, any ideas?

Post by JOHN BURKHIMER »

Richard,
could you post a photo of the "New tool"  After reading the e-mails, it looks like a lot of progress was made.  So I understand.....the grease filling up the space in the cylinder is pushing the piston back down? (As long as both valves are closed?)
john
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From: tgm_enterprizes
Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: stuck piston, any ideas?
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 7:15 PM
It's been a good day. I made my grease zerk fitting on sparkplug adapter and was able to unstick the piston. It will be just a matter of days now before I can fire it up and see if rings are still good or if I need to pull the engine apart.
Hope everyone here has a good weekend. And thanks again for the multitude of good ideas.
Richard
p.s. if anyone needs to use this adapter, I am willing to loan it out. Just shoot me a mail or a message or call me.
XXX-XXX-XXXX
richard.morris@...
tgm_enterprizes
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Re: stuck piston, any ideas?

Post by tgm_enterprizes »

I will put a picture of the tool in the photos section as "sparkplug grease zerk"
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, JOHN BURKHIMER wrote:
> Richard,
> could you post a photo of the "New tool"  After reading the e-mails, it looks like a lot of progress was made.  So I understand.....the grease filling up the space in the cylinder is pushing the piston back down? (As long as both valves are closed?)
> john
> --- On Fri, 10/15/10, tgm_enterprizes wrote:
> From: tgm_enterprizes
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: stuck piston, any ideas?
> To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 7:15 PM
> It's been a good day. I made my grease zerk fitting on sparkplug adapter and was able to unstick the piston. It will be just a matter of days now before I can fire it up and see if rings are still good or if I need to pull the engine apart.
> Hope everyone here has a good weekend. And thanks again for the multitude of good ideas.
> Richard
> p.s. if anyone needs to use this adapter, I am willing to loan it out. Just shoot me a mail or a message or call me.
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> richard.morris@...
tgm_enterprizes
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Re: stuck piston, any ideas?

Post by tgm_enterprizes »

If I had thought just a little more, I could have pumped diesel fuel into the cylinder rather than grease. It would sure be easier to get it out.
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "tgm_enterprizes" wrote:
> I will put a picture of the tool in the photos section as "sparkplug grease zerk"
> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, JOHN BURKHIMER wrote:
> > Richard,
> > could you post a photo of the "New tool"  After reading the e-mails, it looks like a lot of progress was made.  So I understand.....the grease filling up the space in the cylinder is pushing the piston back down? (As long as both valves are closed?)
> > john
> > --- On Fri, 10/15/10, tgm_enterprizes wrote:
> > From: tgm_enterprizes
> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: stuck piston, any ideas?
> > To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 7:15 PM
> > It's been a good day. I made my grease zerk fitting on sparkplug adapter and was able to unstick the piston. It will be just a matter of days now before I can fire it up and see if rings are still good or if I need to pull the engine apart.
> > Hope everyone here has a good weekend. And thanks again for the multitude of good ideas.
> > Richard
> > p.s. if anyone needs to use this adapter, I am willing to loan it out. Just shoot me a mail or a message or call me.
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > richard.morris@
zinc2u
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Re: stuck piston, any ideas?

Post by zinc2u »

why not use motor oil instead of grease or diesel?
> If I
> had thought just a little more, I could have pumped diesel fuel into the > cylinder rather than grease. It would sure be easier to get it > out.
TOM THIES
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Re: stuck piston, any ideas?

Post by TOM THIES »

diesel fuel may have been to thin to use if the cylinders and rings were bad.  but yeah I bet that was a mess..lol
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> stuck piston, any ideas?
> why not use motor oil instead of grease or diesel?
> > If I
> > had thought just a little more, I could have pumped diesel fuel into the > > cylinder rather than grease. It would sure be easier to get it > > out.
T W S
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Re: stuck piston, any ideas?

Post by T W S »

i was trying to think it out and i think the deal is that theres no good way to hydroulick it(the diesel fuel) into the cylinder. Its to thin and would leak out of the back of the grease gun.
From:
tgm_enterprizes To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Sat, October 16, 2010 12:46:34 PM Subject:
[anzhonda600owners] Re: stuck piston, any ideas?
If I had thought just a little more, I could have pumped diesel fuel into the cylinder rather than grease. It would sure be easier to get it out.
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "tgm_enterprizes" wrote:
> I will put a picture of the tool in the photos section as "sparkplug grease zerk"
> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, JOHN BURKHIMER wrote:
> > Richard,
> > �
> > could you post a photo of the "New tool"�  After reading the e-mails, it looks like a lot of progress was made.�  So I understand.....the grease filling up the space in the cylinder is pushing the piston back down? (As long as both valves are closed?) > > john
> > --- On Fri, 10/15/10, tgm_enterprizes wrote:
> > From: tgm_enterprizes
> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: stuck piston, any ideas?
> > To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 7:15 PM
> > �
> > It's been a good day. I made my grease zerk fitting on sparkplug adapter and was able to unstick the piston. It will be just a matter of days now before I can fire it up and see if rings are still good or if I need to pull the engine apart.
> > Hope everyone here has a good weekend. And thanks again for the multitude of good ideas.
> > Richard
> > p.s. if anyone needs to use this adapter, I am willing to loan it out. Just shoot me a mail or a message or call me.
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > richard.morris@
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