I've mostly finished moving electric motor and batteries from my previous N600 over to the new shell I got from Mike Connors. Because of its size, the 600 makes a great EV.
Pictures and specs are at:
http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/325.html
Thanks, to Mike (and whoever in Oregon he got this car from) for finding me a somewhat beat-up but rust-free shell... it was just right for my conversion and, for you 600 restorationists on this list, we didn't really deface anything of preservation quality!
Tom
Electric N600
Re: Electric N600
Tom;
I would seriously look at the effects of electricity causing the rusting process to work faster on your car than outers in your area. It sounds more like bimatalic corrosion than just salt on the streets. Washing weekly should keep things clean enough. I know lots of folks in Minnesota (a salt on the street state) who have had cars live on for many years with simple washings. Are you using a plastic tray for your batteries? is the engine/electric motor grounded to the frame or is all of the wiring double wired?
Bill
I would seriously look at the effects of electricity causing the rusting process to work faster on your car than outers in your area. It sounds more like bimatalic corrosion than just salt on the streets. Washing weekly should keep things clean enough. I know lots of folks in Minnesota (a salt on the street state) who have had cars live on for many years with simple washings. Are you using a plastic tray for your batteries? is the engine/electric motor grounded to the frame or is all of the wiring double wired?
Bill
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> To:
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> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Electric N600
> I've mostly finished moving electric motor and
> batteries from my previous N600 over to the new shell I got from Mike > Connors. Because of its size, the 600 makes a great EV.
> Pictures and specs are at:
> http://www.austinev .org/evalbum/ 325.html
> Thanks, to Mike (and whoever in Oregon he got
> this car from) for finding me a somewhat beat-up but rust-free shell...
> it was just right for my conversion and, for you 600 restorationists on > this list, we didn't really deface anything of preservation > quality!
> Tom
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Re: Electric N600
Bill,
Interesting thought, it never occurred to me that there might be some electro-galvanic corrosion going on. But I highly doubt it, as the 80 volt battery bank is isolated from the chassis so there is no electricity flow through the body beyond what a normal 12volt system would produce.
Aren't these cars extremely prone to rusting anyways? I grew up working on cars in the early 70's and I thought many of that era were victims of a poor quality sheet steel imported from Japan. I remember my roommate was given free new fenders for his 73 Cougar in 1975 because they rusted through. I just assumed these 600's suffer from the same.
Our community is obsessed with salting the roads with the very first flakes of snow, so its essentially a lose-lose situation for me here!
Tom
Interesting thought, it never occurred to me that there might be some electro-galvanic corrosion going on. But I highly doubt it, as the 80 volt battery bank is isolated from the chassis so there is no electricity flow through the body beyond what a normal 12volt system would produce.
Aren't these cars extremely prone to rusting anyways? I grew up working on cars in the early 70's and I thought many of that era were victims of a poor quality sheet steel imported from Japan. I remember my roommate was given free new fenders for his 73 Cougar in 1975 because they rusted through. I just assumed these 600's suffer from the same.
Our community is obsessed with salting the roads with the very first flakes of snow, so its essentially a lose-lose situation for me here!
Tom
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> Tom;
> I would seriously look at the
> effects of electricity causing the rusting process to work faster on your car > than outers in your area. It sounds more like bimatalic corrosion than > just salt on the streets. Washing weekly should keep things clean > enough. I know lots of folks in Minnesota (a salt on the street state) > who have had cars live on for many years with simple washings. Are you > using a plastic tray for your batteries? is the engine/electric motor > grounded to the frame or is all of the wiring double wired?
> Bill
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> > Subject:
> > [2cylinderhondas]
> > Electric N600
> > I've mostly finished moving electric motor and
> > batteries from my previous N600 over to the new shell I got from Mike > > Connors. Because of its size, the 600 makes a great > > EV. Pictures and specs are at:
> > http://www.austinev .org/evalbum/ 325.html
> > Thanks, to Mike (and whoever in Oregon he got
> > this car from) for finding me a somewhat beat-up but rust-free > > shell... it was just right for my conversion and, for you > > 600 restorationists on this list, we didn't really deface anything of > > preservation quality!
> > Tom
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Re: Electric N600
Ok, the batteries are isolated, but the motor is a generator working in the opposite direction. You are creating a field of energy around the motor and if the case is not grounded you are causing the sault to work faster than usual.
Look at it this way, if you draw generation lines from the outward edges of the coils you will have the same effect on a generator as a motor. Your Honda 600 is a salt magnet.
Bill
Look at it this way, if you draw generation lines from the outward edges of the coils you will have the same effect on a generator as a motor. Your Honda 600 is a salt magnet.
Bill
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> [2cylinderhondas] Electric N600
> Bill,
> Interesting thought, it never occurred to me that
> there might be some electro-galvanic corrosion going on. But I highly > doubt it, as the 80 volt battery bank is isolated from the chassis so there is > no electricity flow through the body beyond what a normal 12volt system would > produce.
> Aren't these cars extremely prone to rusting
> anyways? I grew up working on cars in the early 70's and I > thought many of that era were victims of a poor quality sheet steel imported > from Japan. I remember my roommate was given free new fenders for > his 73 Cougar in 1975 because they rusted through. I just assumed > these 600's suffer from the same.
> Our community is obsessed with salting the roads
> with the very first flakes of snow, so its essentially a lose-lose situation > for me here!
> Tom
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> > To:
> > Anzhonda600owners
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> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
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> > Wednesday, November 07, 2007
> > 12:59 AM
> > Subject:
> > RE: [2cylinderhondas] Electric
> > N600
> > Tom;
> > I would seriously look at the
> > effects of electricity causing the rusting process to work faster on your > > car than outers in your area. It sounds more like bimatalic corrosion > > than just salt on the streets. Washing weekly should keep things clean > > enough. I know lots of folks in Minnesota (a salt on the street state) > > who have had cars live on for many years with simple washings. Are you > > using a plastic tray for your batteries? is the engine/electric motor > > grounded to the frame or is all of the wiring double wired?
> > Bill
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> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
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> > > On Behalf Of
> > > Tom
> > > Rapini
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> > > Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:47 AM
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject:
> > > [2cylinderhondas] Electric N600
> > > I've mostly finished moving electric motor
> > > and batteries from my previous N600 over to the new shell I got from Mike > > > Connors. Because of its size, the 600 makes a great > > > EV. Pictures and specs are at:
> > > http://www.austinev .org/evalbum/ 325.html
> > > Thanks, to Mike (and whoever in Oregon he got
> > > this car from) for finding me a somewhat beat-up but rust-free > > > shell... it was just right for my conversion and, for you > > > 600 restorationists on this list, we didn't really deface anything of > > > preservation quality!
> > > Tom
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