Honda N600 trivial question

[mafoose_zxt]

On the quest to get my car that's sat for almost 14yrs running, I have
a quick question.
What size (gauge) wire should I run from the battery to the starter?
It's basically a motorcycle right? On motorcycles that wire is like
10-12 gauge, is that enough for this car?
Thanks!
Mario

[scott lesniak]

No regular starter wire .There is a good bit of load on the starter

--- On
Wed, 8/13/08, mafoose_zxt

wrote:
> From: mafoose_zxt
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Honda N600 trivial question
> To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 1:46 PM
> On the quest to get my car that's sat for almost 14yrs running, I have > a quick question.
> What size (gauge) wire should I run from the battery to the starter?
> It's basically a motorcycle right? On motorcycles that wire is like > 10-12 gauge, is that enough for this car?
> Thanks!
> Mario

[gary cushman]

OOOhhhh the M word.....I was repremended for that nasty word!! I looked at my Battery Cables and they are more like a light car cable, I dont have the foggiest idea of gage? these are originals on my car, I was at Walmart looking at the no lead cables, which are the same size as mine
                                                              G
----- Original Message ---- From: mafoose_zxt To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:46:53 PM Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Honda N600 trivial question
On the quest to get my car that's sat for almost 14yrs running, I have a quick question.
What size (gauge) wire should I run from the battery to the starter?
It's basically a motorcycle right? On motorcycles that wire is like 10-12 gauge, is that enough for this car?
Thanks!
Mario

[geez_tech]

Yes, a regular one will do from places like Autozone, Pep Boys, etc.
I think mine measured 32"and you can get them in black or red.
Mike

[Mario Montes]

Darn. I just saw in the service manual that the starter is rated at a "Constrained Current" of 460 amps or less.
I guess there goes my idea of using a motorcycle battery...
Thanks for the quick response!
Another quick question, is there an "off the shelf" able to be bought at a parts store battery available for these cars?
If not, anyone use a dry or gel cell and mounted it where the spare tire went on the smaller engined cars?
Anyone have the specs on the battery it needs (Cold cranking amps, capacity, etc)?
Thanks again,
Mario

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:01 PM, geez_tech
Yes, a regular one will do from places like Autozone, Pep Boys, etc.
> I think mine measured 32"and you can get them in black or red.
> Mike
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> , gary cushman
> wrote:
> >   OOOhhhh the M word.....I was repremended for that nasty word!! I
> looked at my Battery Cables and they are more like a light car cable,
> I dont have the foggiest idea of gage? these are originals on my car,
> I was at Walmart looking at the no lead cables, which are the same
> size as mine
> >                                                               G
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: mafoose_zxt
> > To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:46:53 PM
> > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Honda N600 trivial question
> > On the quest to get my car that's sat for almost 14yrs running, I
> have
> > a quick question.
> > What size (gauge) wire should I run from the battery to the starter?
> > It's basically a motorcycle right? On motorcycles that wire is like
> > 10-12 gauge, is that enough for this car?
> > Thanks!
> > Mario

[mterrens]

The battery in my Coupe is an Autozone Duralast 51-D, 625 cc amps at 32 degrees.  Works fine.
Steve
www.honda600coupe.com

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Mario Montes
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:10
> PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Honda
> N600 trivial question
> Darn. I just saw in the service manual that the starter is rated > at a "Constrained Current" of 460 amps or less.
> I guess there goes my idea
> of using a motorcycle battery...
> Thanks for the quick
> response!
> Another quick question, is there an "off the shelf" able to > be bought at a parts store battery available for these cars?
> If not, anyone
> use a dry or gel cell and mounted it where the spare tire went on the smaller > engined cars?
> Anyone have the specs on the battery it needs (Cold cranking > amps, capacity, etc)?
> Thanks again,
> Mario
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:01 PM, geez_tech
> tmspeer@...
> wrote:
> > Yes, a regular one will do from places like Autozone, Pep Boys, etc.
> > I
> > think mine measured 32"and you can get them in black or > > red.
> > Mike
> > --- In
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > , gary cushman
> > wrote:
> > OOOhhhh the M word.....I was repremended for that nasty word!! I > > looked > > at my Battery Cables and they are more like a light car cable, > > I dont > > have the foggiest idea of gage? these are originals on my car, > > I was at > > Walmart looking at the no lead cables, which are the same > > size as > > mine
> > G
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: mafoose_zxt
> > > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday,
> > August 13, 2008 12:46:53 PM
> > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Honda N600
> > trivial question
> > > On the quest to get my car that's
> > sat for almost 14yrs running, I
> > have
> > > a quick question.
> > > What size (gauge) wire should I run from the battery to the > > starter?
> > > It's basically a motorcycle right? On motorcycles
> > that wire is like
> > > 10-12 gauge, is that enough for this car?
> > > Thanks!
> > > Mario
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[zinc2u]

I use a type 51 battery.
Your local auto parts dealer will sell battery cables which will work for you.  Pick a
red sheathed cable which has the extra pigtail so you can connect to your 45 amp
primary fuse.
good luck,
Dale

> Darn. I just saw in the service manual that the starter is rated > at a "Constrained Current" of 460 amps or less.
> I guess there goes my idea
> of using a motorcycle battery...
> Thanks for the quick
> response!
> Another quick question, is there an "off the shelf" able to > be bought at a parts store battery available for these cars?
> If not, anyone
> use a dry or gel cell and mounted it where the spare tire went on the smaller > engined cars?
> Anyone have the specs on the battery it needs (Cold cranking > amps, capacity, etc)?
> Thanks again,
> Mario
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:01 PM, geez_tech
> tmspeer@.... com
> wrote:
> > Yes, a regular one will do from places like Autozone, Pep Boys, etc.
> > I
> > think mine measured 32"and you can get them in black or > > red.
> > Mike
> > --- In
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > , gary cushman
> > wrote:
> >   OOOhhhh the M word.....I was repremended for that nasty word!! I
> > looked at my Battery Cables and they are more like a light car cable,
> > I dont have the foggiest idea of gage? these are originals on my car,
> > I was at Walmart looking at the no lead cables, which are the same
> > size as mine
> > G
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: mafoose_zxt
> > > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent:
> > Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:46:53 PM
> > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas]
> > Honda N600 trivial question
> > > On the quest to get my
> > car that's sat for almost 14yrs running, I
> > have
> > > a quick
> > question.
> > > What size (gauge) wire should I run from the
> > battery to the starter?
> > > It's basically a motorcycle right?
> > On motorcycles that wire is like
> > > 10-12 gauge, is that enough for
> > this car?
> > > Thanks!
> > Mario

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[Miles]

Your Honda 600 starter is the same size as a Datsun 510 or 240z
starter. You need regular size battery cables you would buy at an auto
parts store.
Don't forget the ground cable goes from the battery to the frame (body)
where the coil connects on then to the engine. Failure to ground the
engine to the body will cause some ground wires to melt, I have also
seen the coating melt off the throttle cable because the starter was
seeking ground.
Miles

[Mario Montes]

Is it the same as a 240z or 510 starter? Or just physically similar? I ask because Zs are my passion (currently own 78 280z race car and a 76 turbo'd street car) and if that's the case I can put a gear reduction model instead which is lighter and uses less amps while cranking.
Can you explain the coil part in more detail? My Honda N600 was modified by the PO and has a distributor welded to the cam gear and has a regular car coil in it. This coil only need +12v ignition and then the "-" side goes to the condenser.
Also, I always run a grounding strap to the engine of at least 2 gauge on all my cars.
I've started building an engine wiring harness for this car because the wiring is so chewed up and molested, I'm hopefully finishing it up tomorrow weather permitting. I've been dying to hear the thing run!
Thanks again for the help, Mario

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Miles
Your Honda 600 starter is the same size as a Datsun 510 or 240z
> starter. You need regular size battery cables you would buy at an auto
> parts store.
> Don't forget the ground cable goes from the battery to the frame (body)
> where the coil connects on then to the engine. Failure to ground the
> engine to the body will cause some ground wires to melt, I have also
> seen the coating melt off the throttle cable because the starter was
> seeking ground.
> Miles
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> , "mafoose_zxt"
> wrote:
> > On the quest to get my car that's sat for almost 14yrs running, I have
> > a quick question.
> > What size (gauge) wire should I run from the battery to the starter?
> > It's basically a motorcycle right? On motorcycles that wire is like
> > 10-12 gauge, is that enough for this car?
> > Thanks!
> > Mario

[zayjspeed]

--- In 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com, goinhm@... wrote:

> And remember the words of the great Vince lombardi (who?) "A

chain is only as good as it's weakest link" make sure that you run at
least a 10~12 gauge wire from bat - to regulator mount to starter
mount bolt.
Solder your own eye-let on the wires NO BUTT CONECTORS THAT YOU
CRIMP SOLDER ONLY! and this is for for you Mr. in a tune up run
ground from block to frame you can heve 460 amp. that will = .050 Ma.
if you do not have a solid ground = to +
Happy twisting every one the "M" mechanic!
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Zay Speed

> I use a type 51 battery.
> Your local auto parts dealer will sell battery cables which will work for
> you. Pick a
> red sheathed cable which has the extra pigtail so you can connect to your 45
> amp
> primary fuse.
> good luck,
> Dale
> Darn. I just saw in the service manual that the starter is rated at a
> "Constrained Current" of 460 amps or less.
> I guess there goes my idea of using a motorcycle battery...
> Thanks for the quick response!
> Another quick question, is there an "off the shelf" able to be bought at a
> parts store battery available for these cars?
> If not, anyone use a dry or gel cell and mounted it where the spare tire
> went on the smaller engined cars?
> Anyone have the specs on the battery it needs (Cold cranking amps, capacity,
> etc)?
> Thanks again,
> Mario
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:01 PM, geez_tech (mailto:tmspeer@...) > wrote:
> Yes, a regular one will do from places like Autozone, Pep Boys, etc.
> I think mine measured 32"and you can get them in black or red.
> Mike
> --- In _2cylinderhondas@2cylinderhon2cy_
> (mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
) , gary cushman
> wrote:
> > OOOhhhh the M word.....I was repremended for that nasty word!! I
> looked at my Battery Cables and they are more like a light car cable,
> I dont have the foggiest idea of gage? these are originals on my car,
> I was at Walmart looking at the no lead cables, which are the same
> size as mine
> > G
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: mafoose_zxt
> > To: _2cylinderhondas@2cylinderhon2cy_
> (mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
)
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:46:53 PM
> > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Honda N600 trivial question
> > On the quest to get my car that's sat for almost 14yrs running, I
> have
> > a quick question.
> > What size (gauge) wire should I run from the battery to the starter?
> > It's basically a motorcycle right? On motorcycles that wire is like
> > 10-12 gauge, is that enough for this car?
> > Thanks!
> > Mario
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