Crankshaft question

[franknfike]

Is it normal for the crankshaft to be magnetized?

[tommyjayallen]

Yes, thats normal. It's from the alternator being attached to one end of it.

--- On
Sat, 7/25/09, franknfike

wrote:
> From: franknfike
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Crankshaft question
> To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:22 PM
> Is it normal for the crankshaft to be magnetized?

[Miles]

That end will also attract steel particles and cause crank & rod life to be shortened. Though I have seen plenty of left crank rod failures as well. On a couple of my cars I put an external alternator from a Civic. It did 2 things, no magnetism on the crank and was so much easier to work on with no internal parts. Flywheel left intact for starting the car.
Miles

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, Tad Clark wrote:
> Yes, thats normal. It's from the alternator being attached to one end of it.
> --- On Sat, 7/25/09, franknfike wrote:
> From: franknfike
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Crankshaft question
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:22 PM
> �
> Is it normal for the crankshaft to be magnetized?

[mterrens]

Would a strategically placed magnet help keep down the loose steel bits?  On cars with screw-on filters one can use a magnet that wraps around the filter.  Any way to emulate that?
Steve
www.honda600coupe.com

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Miles
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:52 AM
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Re: Crankshaft
> question
> That end will also attract steel particles and cause crank & rod life > to be shortened. Though I have seen plenty of left crank rod failures as well.
> On a couple of my cars I put an external alternator from a Civic. It did 2 > things, no magnetism on the crank and was so much easier to work on with no > internal parts. Flywheel left intact for starting the car.
> Miles
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> ,
> Tad Clark wrote:
> > Yes, thats normal.
> It's from the alternator being attached to one end of it.
> > ---
> On Sat, 7/25/09, franknfike wrote:
> > From: franknfike
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Crankshaft question
> > To:
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:22 PM
> > Is it normal for the crankshaft to be
> magnetized?

[mygto_1999]

Miles,
   Do you have any pictures of this conversion? I had thought about doing the same thing to have a more efficient charging system on the car.
Did you change/modify the crank pulley to a larger size to help over drive the alternator like there is for cars with a external alternator?
Thanks,
      Mike

[Miles]

A lot of other cars have a magnet in the oil drain plug - you could get a round magnet then bore a similar sized hole into the drain plug.

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, Steven Michelsen wrote:
> Would a strategically placed magnet help keep down the loose steel bits? On cars with screw-on filters one can use a magnet that wraps around the filter. Any way to emulate that?
> Steve
> www.honda600coupe.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Miles
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:52 AM
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Crankshaft question
> That end will also attract steel particles and cause crank & rod life to be shortened. Though I have seen plenty of left crank rod failures as well. On a couple of my cars I put an external alternator from a Civic. It did 2 things, no magnetism on the crank and was so much easier to work on with no internal parts. Flywheel left intact for starting the car.
> Miles
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, Tad Clark wrote:
> > Yes, thats normal. It's from the alternator being attached to one end of it.
> > --- On Sat, 7/25/09, franknfike wrote:
> > From: franknfike
> > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Crankshaft question
> > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:22 PM
> > Is it normal for the crankshaft to be magnetized?

[Miles]

Sorry, no pics. I did it back around 1982 on my Honda 600 pickup conversion. I believe at the time I left the cooling fan off and welded up a bracket for the alternator that mounted to the outer housing. It would be easy enough to use an electric fan & alternator combo.
Miles

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Mike & Tami Speer" wrote:
> Miles,
> Do you have any pictures of this conversion? I had thought about doing
> the same thing to have a more efficient charging system on the car. Did you
> change/modify the crank pulley to a larger size to help over drive the
> alternator like there is for cars with a external alternator?
> Thanks,
> Mike
> From:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
] On Behalf Of Miles
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:52 AM
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Crankshaft question
> That end will also attract steel particles and cause crank & rod life to be
> shortened. Though I have seen plenty of left crank rod failures as well. On
> a couple of my cars I put an external alternator from a Civic. It did 2
> things, no magnetism on the crank and was so much easier to work on with no
> internal parts. Flywheel left intact for starting the car.
> Miles
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> , Tad Clark
> wrote:
> > Yes, thats normal. It's from the alternator being attached to one end of
> it.
> > --- On Sat, 7/25/09, franknfike wrote:
> > From: franknfike
> > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Crankshaft question
> > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:22 PM
> > Is it normal for the crankshaft to be magnetized?
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> 11:07:00

[friend]

Miles;
    I saw a couple of set-up's like this and they seemed to put a real draw on the engine, plus they used the fan belt and with that excluded the fan.  Looked like two strikes on the power plant for not much affect.  I have several use crank shafts and none show to have a magnetic crank anywhere but the stator shaft.  That doesn't mean that a magnetic field couldn't develop when the engine is running.  But then we would find metal chips around the seal on that end.  And, I have never found that to be true either.
    On the other hand, no fan and increased power draw on the end of the shaft seems like it would cause the engine to over heat.
Just my thoughts.
Bill

> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com] > On > Behalf Of > Steven Michelsen > Sent:
> Sunday, July 26, 2009 10:40
> AM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re:
> [2cylinderhondas] Re: Crankshaft question
> Would a strategically placed magnet help keep
> down the loose steel bits?  On cars with screw-on filters one can use a > magnet that wraps around the filter.  Any way to emulate > that?
> Steve
> www.honda600coupe. com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > Miles
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent:
> > Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:52
> > AM
> > Subject:
> > [2cylinderhondas] Re:
> > Crankshaft question
> > That end will also attract steel particles and cause crank & rod life > > to be shortened. Though I have seen plenty of left crank rod failures as > > well. On a couple of my cars I put an external alternator from a Civic. It > > did 2 things, no magnetism on the crank and was so much easier to work on > > with no internal parts. Flywheel left intact for starting the car.
> > Miles
> > --- In
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > ,
> > Tad Clark wrote:
> > > Yes, thats
> > normal. It's from the alternator being attached to one end of it.
> > > --- On Sat, 7/25/09, franknfike
> > wrote:
> > > From: franknfike
> >
> > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Crankshaft
> > question
> > > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:22 PM
> > > Is it normal for the crankshaft to be
> > magnetized?

[Mark Kuran]

I found this on youtube just the other day.
Must be quite a modiified car as you'll see by the altenator and glimpse of the carbs.
It says that it is a 360 but the 360 didnt have a conventional starter motor as this one does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTiQGsKZXRo
Mark.

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Miles" wrote:
> Sorry, no pics. I did it back around 1982 on my Honda 600 pickup conversion. I believe at the time I left the cooling fan off and welded up a bracket for the alternator that mounted to the outer housing. It would be easy enough to use an electric fan & alternator combo.
> Miles
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Mike & Tami Speer" wrote:
> > Miles,
> > Do you have any pictures of this conversion? I had thought about doing
> > the same thing to have a more efficient charging system on the car. Did you
> > change/modify the crank pulley to a larger size to help over drive the
> > alternator like there is for cars with a external alternator?
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> > From:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
] On Behalf Of Miles
> > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:52 AM
> > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Crankshaft question
> > That end will also attract steel particles and cause crank & rod life to be
> > shortened. Though I have seen plenty of left crank rod failures as well. On
> > a couple of my cars I put an external alternator from a Civic. It did 2
> > things, no magnetism on the crank and was so much easier to work on with no
> > internal parts. Flywheel left intact for starting the car.
> > Miles
> > --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > , Tad Clark
> > wrote:
> > > Yes, thats normal. It's from the alternator being attached to one end of
> > it.
> > > --- On Sat, 7/25/09, franknfike wrote:
> > > From: franknfike
> > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Crankshaft question
> > > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:22 PM
> > > Is it normal for the crankshaft to be magnetized?
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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> > 11:07:00

[Miles]

About 5 years ago I sold 2 starters and all the the other related parts such as flywheel and stator etc to a guy in Japan, maybe this is what you are looking at in the video.
Miles

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Mark Kuran" wrote:
> I found this on youtube just the other day.
> Must be quite a modiified car as you'll see by the altenator and glimpse of the carbs.
> It says that it is a 360 but the 360 didnt have a conventional starter motor as this one does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTiQGsKZXRo
> Mark.
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Miles" wrote:
> > Sorry, no pics. I did it back around 1982 on my Honda 600 pickup conversion. I believe at the time I left the cooling fan off and welded up a bracket for the alternator that mounted to the outer housing. It would be easy enough to use an electric fan & alternator combo.
> > Miles
> > --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Mike & Tami Speer" wrote:
> > > Miles,
> > > Do you have any pictures of this conversion? I had thought about doing
> > > the same thing to have a more efficient charging system on the car. Did you
> > > change/modify the crank pulley to a larger size to help over drive the
> > > alternator like there is for cars with a external alternator?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mike
> > > From:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
] On Behalf Of Miles
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:52 AM
> > > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Crankshaft question
> > > That end will also attract steel particles and cause crank & rod life to be
> > > shortened. Though I have seen plenty of left crank rod failures as well. On
> > > a couple of my cars I put an external alternator from a Civic. It did 2
> > > things, no magnetism on the crank and was so much easier to work on with no
> > > internal parts. Flywheel left intact for starting the car.
> > > Miles
> > > --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > , Tad Clark
> > > wrote:
> > > > Yes, thats normal. It's from the alternator being attached to one end of
> > > it.
> > > > --- On Sat, 7/25/09, franknfike wrote:
> > > > From: franknfike
> > > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Crankshaft question
> > > > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > > Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 5:22 PM
> > > > Is it normal for the crankshaft to be magnetized?
> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.29/2261 - Release Date: 07/26/09
> > > 11:07:00