Hi i was wondering what kind of oil i have to use.
The one that is yust for cars?
or for motor bikes becouse is has an open transmission box?
Thanx
What kind of oil for a n600
Re: What kind of oil for a n600
Click here to see the recommendation from the owners manual. Look at page 57. The chart shows the recommended oil for different temperatures. You can use an oil recommended for cars and 10w-40 is a good fit for year round conditions where you are not getting into super cold winter temperatures.
good luck,
Dale
good luck,
Dale
> Hi i
> was wondering what kind of oil i have to use.
> The one that is yust for
> cars?
> or for motor bikes becouse is has an open transmission
> box?
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rickvanderkeur
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Re: What kind of oil for a n600
--- In 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com, goinhm@... wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.nl/Restore-yr-N360-N600 ... 286.c0.m14
what do you think of this product?> Click _here_ (
http://www.honda600coupe.com/Sedan_Owners_Manual.pdf)
to see
> the recommendation from the owners manual. Look at page 57. The chart
> shows the recommended oil for different temperatures. You can use an oil
> recommended for cars and 10w-40 is a good fit for year round conditions
> where you are not getting into super cold winter temperatures.
> good luck,
> Dale
> Hi i was wondering what kind of oil i have to use.
> The one that is yust for cars?
> or for motor bikes becouse is has an open transmission box?
http://cgi.ebay.nl/Restore-yr-N360-N600 ... 286.c0.m14
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rickvanderkeur
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Re: What kind of oil for a n600
--- In 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com, goinhm@... wrote:
okay but is it a motorbike oil or a car oil beucause the guy at the shop told me that they where different and the engine in a n600 is original from a motorbike so he got confused. and said that the wrong oil will be bad for the engine.> Click _here_ (
http://www.honda600coupe.com/Sedan_Owners_Manual.pdf)
to see
> the recommendation from the owners manual. Look at page 57. The chart
> shows the recommended oil for different temperatures. You can use an oil
> recommended for cars and 10w-40 is a good fit for year round conditions
> where you are not getting into super cold winter temperatures.
> good luck,
> Dale
> Hi i was wondering what kind of oil i have to use.
> The one that is yust for cars?
> or for motor bikes becouse is has an open transmission box?
Re: What kind of oil for a n600
What I don't like about these products is that they are more hype than fact. They make the claim that engines wear out due to friction at the rate of 0.001 inches per 10,000 miles. This is not really true ....
which part of the engine is wearing out at this rate? Some parts are wearing faster and some are wearing slower than this rate. They also make the claim that drag racing can wear out an engine in one run .... while this is true, it is not friction which is wearing out the engine (as their ad implies). Instead, heat is the culprit.
I stick to the regular motor oils ..... Havoline, Pennzoil, Valvoline, Quaker State, etc. These are the oils which have an SAE and API rating which does mean something. I have also been in the engineering areas of Chrysler, Ford, and GM ..... they do serious testing on the oil brands and gasoline which their customers might put into their cars because they don't want their engines to fail during the warranty period. These off-brands of lubricants are not on their radar screen.
The Honda 600 is a 1970s era car ..... any major brand of motor oil you are buying today is going to be far superior to what was available when the car was manufactured. The best thing you can do to make your Honda 600 last longer is to change the oil frequently.
that is my story and I'm sticking to it,
Dale
which part of the engine is wearing out at this rate? Some parts are wearing faster and some are wearing slower than this rate. They also make the claim that drag racing can wear out an engine in one run .... while this is true, it is not friction which is wearing out the engine (as their ad implies). Instead, heat is the culprit.
I stick to the regular motor oils ..... Havoline, Pennzoil, Valvoline, Quaker State, etc. These are the oils which have an SAE and API rating which does mean something. I have also been in the engineering areas of Chrysler, Ford, and GM ..... they do serious testing on the oil brands and gasoline which their customers might put into their cars because they don't want their engines to fail during the warranty period. These off-brands of lubricants are not on their radar screen.
The Honda 600 is a 1970s era car ..... any major brand of motor oil you are buying today is going to be far superior to what was available when the car was manufactured. The best thing you can do to make your Honda 600 last longer is to change the oil frequently.
that is my story and I'm sticking to it,
Dale
> what do
> you think of this product?
> http://cgi.ebay. nl/Restore- yr-N360-N600- Z600-QUINTET- Engine-w- AMETECH-OIL_ W0QQitemZ3900243 06965QQcmdZViewI temQQptZUK_ CarsParts_ Vehicles_ CarParts_ SM?hash=item5acf 42a115&_trksid= p3286.c0. m14
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John Ledford
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Re: What kind of oil for a n600
Since the transmission is also lubricated with the same oil as the engine the ability of the oil to withstand the shearing forces of the transmission gears comes into play. I use synthetic oil such as Mobile One because of its superior film strenght and its ability to cover much wider temperature ranges without changing its viscosity as much as conventional oils on both the hot and cold ends of the spectrum. When working on an engine that has been using synthetic oil as compared to one on conventional oil it is amazing to see the difference. (lack of deposits and coking) A lot of wear also occurs at startup before the oil pressure stabalizes. As noted above, the characteristics of a synthetic reduce this variation in viscosity.
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Mon, 9/21/09,
rickvanderkeur
wrote:
> From: rickvanderkeur
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600 > To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 11:35 PM
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> , goinhm@... wrote:
> > Click _here_ (
> http://www.honda600 coupe.com/ Sedan_Owners_ Manual.pdf
> ) to see
> > the recommendation from the owners manual. Look at page 57. The chart > > shows the recommended oil for different temperatures. You can use an oil > > recommended for cars and 10w-40 is a good fit for year round conditions > > where you are not getting into super cold winter temperatures.
> > good luck,
> > Dale
> > Hi i was wondering what kind of oil i have to use.
> > The one that is yust for cars?
> > or for motor bikes becouse is has an open transmission
> box?
> okay but is it a motorbike oil or a car oil beucause the guy at the shop told me that they where different and the engine in a n600 is original from a motorbike so he got confused. and said that the wrong oil will be bad for the engine.
Re: What kind of oil for a n600
Dale;
I too have researched the oil products and agree that oil produced these days is far superior to oil of the 70's. And, because of the high revving (5.5 to 6 K) shift ranges there is a lot to be said about the shearing effects made by the transmission. But, after pulling a hundred or more of the Honda 600 engines apart, all, every one had tar build up on the inside of the case.
Some more than others but every one had heated to the point of burning the engine oil. Not until I started using an oil cooler and remote filter did I have clean engines. The oil still comes out darker than when I put it in, but nothing like it was from a Honda 600 that has the original filter on it. The oil I use? any production, quality 20W-50.
Even my 1991 Seville has an oil cooler, a water cooled V8. They work.
Bill
I too have researched the oil products and agree that oil produced these days is far superior to oil of the 70's. And, because of the high revving (5.5 to 6 K) shift ranges there is a lot to be said about the shearing effects made by the transmission. But, after pulling a hundred or more of the Honda 600 engines apart, all, every one had tar build up on the inside of the case.
Some more than others but every one had heated to the point of burning the engine oil. Not until I started using an oil cooler and remote filter did I have clean engines. The oil still comes out darker than when I put it in, but nothing like it was from a Honda 600 that has the original filter on it. The oil I use? any production, quality 20W-50.
Even my 1991 Seville has an oil cooler, a water cooled V8. They work.
Bill
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> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> ,
> goinhm@... wrote:
> > Click _here_ (
> http://www.honda600 coupe.com/ Sedan_Owners_ Manual.pdf
> )
> to see
> > the recommendation from the owners manual. Look at page 57.
> The chart
> > shows the recommended oil for different temperatures. You > can use an oil > > recommended for cars and 10w-40 is a good fit for year > round conditions > > where you are not getting into super cold winter > temperatures.
> > good luck,
> > Dale
> > Hi i
> was wondering what kind of oil i have to use.
> > The one that is yust for
> cars?
> > or for motor bikes becouse is has an open transmission
> box?
> okay but is it a motorbike oil or a car oil beucause the guy > at the shop told me that they where different and the engine in a n600 is > original from a motorbike so he got confused. and said that the wrong oil will > be bad for the engine.