when would be a good time to buy an az600

[boss]

how practical is buying a az600
are they anywhere close to an everyday car or are they only for weekends
would it be a good car for my teenage son or more for a person like me looking for a 2nd car

[mterrens]

When you get a 600 you are buying a hobby.  It is possible to run one as a daily driver but be aware that Honda does not support the car at all - no service and virtually no new parts.  You will find a lot of support here as issues come up.
Steve

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> a good time to buy an az600
> how practical is buying a az600
> are they anywhere close to an everyday
> car or are they only for weekends
> would it be a good car for my teenage son
> or more for a person like me looking for a 2nd car

[friend]

To; Mr. Boss
    The Honda 600 is a good 1970's vehicle.  Used daily it would have to be restored to like new condition, becoming knowledgeable in the workings and mechanics of vehicles from that time and knowing all there is to know about Honda 600's is the home work you would have for the next several months.  As you will become the mechanic, parts locator and friend to this Yahoo Group.  Steve Michelsen's site is a wealth of information.  Any experience you have with older vehicle restoration will be invaluable.
T he relationship you develop with your son will be time well spent.  All of us are here to assist.
Welcome to the Group
Bill

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> When you get a 600 you are buying a hobby.
> It is possible to run one as a daily driver but be aware that Honda does not > support the car at all - no service and virtually no new parts.  You will > find a lot of support here as issues come up.
> Steve
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> > are they anywhere close to an everyday
> > car or are they only for weekends
> > would it be a good car for my teenage
> > son or more for a person like me looking for a 2nd car

[James Hawkins]

With a teenager driving it I wonder how long it would take to be a parts car.
  Let someone get it that will cherish and take care of it.  Just my way of thinking.

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> would it be a good car for my teenage son
> or more for a person like me looking for a 2nd car
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[d latter]

would it be a good father and son project and let the teenager drive it when its done or do these cars require too much work

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> With a teenager driving it I wonder how long it would take to be a parts > car.
>   Let someone get it that will cherish and take care of
> it.  Just my way of thinking.
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[James Hawkins]

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Maybe I missed something here but I was thinking this one was already past the project and was already fixed up and beginning to get rather costly.  If it's a project car, then it's a different ball game.

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[zinc2u]

It would be a great father and son project but I think father will enjoy it more than the son.  Tell us something about your son ..... how old is he,  is he interested in working on mechanical things,  is he interested in restoring to original or modifying it?  Would he be interested in making an electric car?
This is a vintage car with lots of stuff your son will never see on a new car.  Carburetors,  chain drive from engine to transmission, points-style ignition are history.  The drum-style brakes will soon be history.   Restoring this car will be comparable to restoring an 8-track player,  a record turntable,  or an old (non-digital) camera....he will either be intrigued or bored.  But I think dad will be having a great time.
Once the car is restored,  it will not require any more work than other restored cars.  It will be about the same amount of on-going maintenance as owning a restored 1964 Ford Mustang.  The lubricants get changed more frequently and the car gets a tuneup more frequently than a new car.  And because you have plastics that are almost 40 years old, they may break or crumble when you least expect it  (plastics  have improved since the 1970s).
What you will have is a car which gets a lot of attention,  looks unique,  and drives like a go-kart.   If you decide to not restore a Honda 600,  then I suggest you go out and buy a new (or slightly used) BMW Mini and spend time with your son.  He might enjoy that car more than a 600 since it is more "hip" for someone who is a teenager.
good luck,
Dale

> would
> it be a good father and son project and let the teenager drive it when its > done or do these cars require too much > work

[d latter]

thanks i think the car may bee too small and unsafe for him to drive though, how small are they

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> From: goinhm@...
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] when would be a good time to buy an az600 > To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 5:59 PM
> It would be a great father and son project but I think father will enjoy it > more than the son.  Tell us something about your son ..... how old is > he,  is he interested in working on mechanical things,  is he > interested in restoring to original or modifying it?  Would he be > interested in making an electric car?
> This is a vintage car with lots of stuff your son will never see on a new > car.  Carburetors,  chain drive from engine to transmission, > points-style ignition are history.  The drum-style brakes will soon be > history..   Restoring this car will be comparable to restoring an > 8-track player,  a record turntable,  or an old (non-digital) > camera....he will either be intrigued or bored.  But I think dad will be > having a great time.
> Once the car is restored,  it will not require any more work than > other restored cars..  It will be about the same amount of on-going > maintenance as owning a restored 1964 Ford Mustang.  The lubricants get > changed more frequently and the car gets a tuneup more frequently than a new > car.  And because you have plastics that are almost 40 years old, > they may break or crumble when you least expect it  (plastics  have > improved since the 1970s).
> What you will have is a car which gets a lot of attention,  looks > unique,  and drives like a go-kart.   If you decide to not > restore a Honda 600,  then I suggest you go out and buy a new (or > slightly used) BMW Mini and spend time with your son.  He might enjoy > that car more than a 600 since it is more "hip" for someone who is a > teenager.
> good luck,
> Dale
> > would
> > it be a good father and son project and let the teenager drive it when its > > done or do these cars require too much > > work

[zinc2u]

The car is about 120 inches long and weighs around 1200 pounds without the driver and passengers.  If you are driving into a wall at 60 mph,  it may not be survivable (how many cars would be?).  But it is safer than I thought.  I was at a gas station once and someone approached me to ask if the Honda 600 belonged to me.  He proceeded to tell me how he read about the design of my car in an engineering journal and it was one of the best engineered cars of its time.  The front of the car is designed to crumple on impact and the engine and its subframe is designed to break away and go down rather than into the passenger compartment.  I just listened to him and thought "ha, ha,  I wish".  A couple years later I was driving a coupe and entering an intersection at about 45 mph when a pickup truck pulled straight in front of me.   I had no choice but to hit the truck.  I was expecting the engine to come through the firewall and it would be all over for me.  Instead,  there was lots of noise and crumpling sounds and then the car came to a stop wedged under the truck.  I  was fortunate that I struck the truck right behind the rear axle (and not at the rear axle because that would have been like hitting a wall).  The whole front of the car was crumpled and the tires looked like they were flat.  When some people pulled the car out from under the truck,  it popped back up and the tires looked good again.  What absorbed the energy in that frontal collision was the crumpling of the body,  the compressing of the front suspension (the big coils and struts), and the compressing of the tires.  I walked away looking unharmed even though I was a little sore for a few weeks from the sudden de-acceleration.
I came away with more respect for the car's design.  In a front or rear collision,  I think I have a good chance of surviving if the vehicle is not jacked up high in the air.   Probably not a collision that hits me at the driver's side door.   The smallness and nimbleness of the car makes it very maneuverable and able to avoid potential problems.
While I think the car is not as safe as a car made today,  I do think it rates well for a car from the 1970s.
that is what I know,
Dale

> thanks
> i think the car may bee too small and unsafe for him to drive though, how > small are they

[friend]

Dale;
    I agree, as I have flipped them, bounced off guard rails and purchased a Honda 600 which was wedged between two vehicles and all were repaired to drive again.  The rollover, drove away from the scene of the accident after a couple of drivers pulled over and helped to put it back on it's four wheels again.  The guard rail was a 45 mph bump and just bounced, I pulled the fender away from the tire and drove it home.  Spent some time on that weekend and had it back on the road Monday.  The wedge was a bit more extensive but the local rack pulled it straight and it too is still on the road.
    Oh yea, I had no injures.
Bill

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> [2cylinderhondas] when would be a good time to buy an
> az600
> The car is about 120 inches long and weighs around 1200 pounds without > the driver and passengers.  If you are driving into a wall at 60 > mph,  it may not be survivable (how many cars would be?).  But it is > safer than I thought.  I was at a gas station once and someone approached > me to ask if the Honda 600 belonged to me.  He proceeded to tell me how > he read about the design of my car in an engineering journal and it was one of > the best engineered cars of its time.  The front of the car is designed > to crumple on impact and the engine and its subframe is designed to break away > and go down rather than into the passenger compartment.  I just listened > to him and thought "ha, ha,  I wish".  A couple years later I was > driving a coupe and entering an intersection at about 45 mph when a pickup > truck pulled straight in front of me.   I had no choice but to hit > the truck.  I was expecting the engine to come through the firewall and > it would be all over for me.  Instead,  there was lots of noise and > crumpling sounds and then the car came to a stop wedged under the truck.
> I  was fortunate that I struck the truck right behind the rear axle (and > not at the rear axle because that would have been like hitting a wall).
> The whole front of the car was crumpled and the tires looked like they were > flat.  When some people pulled the car out from under the truck,  it > popped back up and the tires looked good again.  What absorbed the energy > in that frontal collision was the crumpling of the body,  the compressing > of the front suspension (the big coils and struts), and the compressing of the > tires.  I walked away looking unharmed even though I was a little sore > for a few weeks from the sudden de-acceleration.
> I came away with more respect for the car's design.  In a front or > rear collision,  I think I have a good chance of surviving if the vehicle > is not jacked up high in the air.   Probably not a collision > that hits me at the driver's side door.   The smallness and > nimbleness of the car makes it very maneuverable and able to avoid potential > problems.  While I think the car is not as safe as a car made > today,  I do think it rates well for a car from the 1970s.
> that is what I know,
> Dale
> > thanks
> > i think the car may bee too small and unsafe for him to drive though, > > how small are they