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ELLIOT OSHANA · Post by **ELLIOT OSHANA** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:56 am

I have the same question about what pistons to use for a Z600 engine as “ marshall ” is there anything available for this engine?
Thanks,
Elliot Oshana
President
XXX-XXX-XXXX (cell) XXX-XXX-XXXX
80R Tuttle Road , Durham , CT 06422

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Zay J. Speed · Post by **Zay J. Speed** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:36 am

Hi 600'ers
These engines are kinda basic, to go with a different piston, the # 1 thing is a size in diameter that is the same or slightly larger up to a hundred thousands than bore to .002 ~.003 ths piston to wall . The 2nd is piston pin size to fit the rod correctly, and piston top shape for squish compression and cylinder flow. It has been some time since I used this company to switch motorcycle pistons that are no longer offered by OEM, but thy have a chart that list all pistons by measurement not by make or model. Give this site a try http://www.wiseco.com/
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jpro8071 · Post by **jpro8071** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:54 am

There is a Kawasaki or Suzuki piston that has the correct bore and wrist pin size - unfortunately you have to put a big dome on it to get the correct compression - and this kills the flame pattern. (So you end up losing power.)
Weight is also important because of the way that these motors are balanced - being in line.
If anyone can't find anything that is correct I'll talk to one of my sponsors.

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2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Zay J. Speed" wrote:
> Hi 600'ers
> These engines are kinda basic, to go with a different piston, the # 1 thing is a size in diameter that is the same or slightly larger up to a hundred thousands than bore to .002 ~.003 ths piston to wall . The 2nd is piston pin size to fit the rod correctly, and piston top shape for squish compression and cylinder flow. It has been some time since I used this company to switch motorcycle pistons that are no longer offered by OEM, but thy have a chart that list all pistons by measurement not by make or model. Give this site a try http://www.wiseco.com/
> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Zay

friend · Post by **friend** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:01 pm

I think what Zay is saying is that the pin placement is off center. The Honda 600 piston's wrist pin size is one issue, the offset in the piston is another. And, jpro - is also correct. Correct pistons can be made by EGGE Machine, at www.egge.com . As others have lamented so eloquently on the voltage regulator $, throw enough money at anything and you can get it made, or have some one sell it to you.
Bill

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> There is a Kawasaki or Suzuki piston that has the correct bore and wrist > pin size - unfortunately you have to put a big dome on it to get the correct > compression - and this kills the flame pattern. (So you end up losing > power.) > Weight is also important because of the way that these motors > are balanced - being in line.
> If anyone can't find anything that is
> correct I'll talk to one of my sponsors.
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> ,
> "Zay J. Speed" wrote:
> > Hi
> 600'ers
> > These engines are kinda basic, to go with a different piston, > the # 1 thing is a size in diameter that is the same or slightly larger up to > a hundred thousands than bore to .002 ~.003 ths piston to wall . The 2nd is > piston pin size to fit the rod correctly, and piston top shape for squish > compression and cylinder flow. It has been some time since I used this company > to switch motorcycle pistons that are no longer offered by OEM, but thy have a > chart that list all pistons by measurement not by make or model. Give this > site a try > http://www.wiseco. com/
> :::::::::::: ::::::::: ::::::::Zay

honda600wiz · Post by **honda600wiz** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:08 am

I have been selling new custom made piston kits for the Honda N600 and Z600 for at least five years, kit includes pistons, rings, pins and clips, sizes include .50 over size and 1.00 mm oversize, I have sold over 100 sets in the last five years, contact me with any questions. XXX-XXX-XXXX

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2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "ELLIOT OSHANA" wrote:
> I have the same question about what pistons to use for a Z600 engine as
> "marshall" is there anything available for this engine?
> Thanks,
> Elliot Oshana
> President
> XXX-XXX-XXXX (cell) XXX-XXX-XXXX
> 80R Tuttle Road, Durham, CT 06422

jpro8071 · Post by **jpro8071** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:29 am

Always helps to post a price here . . .

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2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "honda600wiz" wrote:
> I have been selling new custom made piston kits for the Honda N600 and Z600 for at least five years, kit includes pistons, rings, pins and clips, sizes include .50 over size and 1.00 mm oversize, I have sold over 100 sets in the last five years, contact me with any questions. XXX-XXX-XXXX
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "ELLIOT OSHANA" wrote:
> > I have the same question about what pistons to use for a Z600 engine as
> > "marshall" is there anything available for this engine?
> > Thanks,
> > Elliot Oshana
> > President
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX (cell) XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > 80R Tuttle Road, Durham, CT 06422

mterrens · Post by **mterrens** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:42 am

They are listed under "brake pads"; go figure. Give Mike a call.
http://www.honda600shop.com/parts.php?C ... brake+pads

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> Sunday, March 07, 2010 11:02
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> Subject:
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> availability
> Always helps to post a price here . . .
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> ,
> "honda600wiz" wrote:
> > I have been
> selling new custom made piston kits for the Honda N600 and Z600 for at least > five years, kit includes pistons, rings, pins and clips, sizes include .50 > over size and 1.00 mm oversize, I have sold over 100 sets in the last five > years, contact me with any questions. XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> ,
> "ELLIOT OSHANA" wrote:
> > > I have the
> same question about what pistons to use for a Z600 engine as
> "marshall" is there anything available for this engine?
> > Thanks,
> > > Elliot Oshana
> > > President
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX (cell) XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > 80R Tuttle Road, Durham, CT 06422

jpro8071 · Post by **jpro8071** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:05 am

He's updated the page.
http://www.honda600shop.com/parts.php?C ... +%26+Z+600
For those of you that don't know - Mike is in the same group as Miles and Bill. An expert and a good person to deal with.

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, Steven Michelsen wrote:
> They are listed under "brake pads"; go figure. Give Mike a call.
http://www.honda600shop.com/parts.php?C ... brake+pads
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> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
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> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: availability
> Always helps to post a price here . . .
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "honda600wiz" wrote:
> > I have been selling new custom made piston kits for the Honda N600 and Z600 for at least five years, kit includes pistons, rings, pins and clips, sizes include .50 over size and 1.00 mm oversize, I have sold over 100 sets in the last five years, contact me with any questions. XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "ELLIOT OSHANA" wrote:
> > > I have the same question about what pistons to use for a Z600 engine as
> > > "marshall" is there anything available for this engine?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Elliot Oshana
> > > President
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX (cell) XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > 80R Tuttle Road, Durham, CT 06422