Removing Stuck Rear Brake drum???

[Sbcglobal]

I have a 1972 Z600, the rear brake drum is stuck on the axle because the brakes are very slightly on and the wheel cylinder is rusted in position... Does any one have any idea on how to remove this?? You can spin the drum only with leverage from a long bar!
Elliot

[zinc2u]

Elliot,
    Remove the rubber plug from the front of the drum (it is used to access the adjusting bolt),  spray some penetrating oil into the brake area,  rotate the drum with your long bar,  spray some more oil into the brake area,  and repeat rotating the drum.  And then start trying to pull the drum off.  It will eventually come off.  Your oil-saturated brake shoes will need replacing/relining but they were probably bad anyway.
good luck,
Dale

> I have
> a 1972 Z600, the rear brake drum is stuck on the axle because the brakes are > very slightly on and the wheel cylinder is rusted in position... Does any one > have any idea on how to remove this?? You can spin the drum only with leverage > from a long > bar!
> Elliot

[TOM THIES]

also tap on the brake drum to make a vibration to help release the shoes from the drum
Tom T.

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> Stuck Rear Brake drum???
> Elliot,
>     Remove the rubber plug from the front of the drum (it
> is used to access the adjusting bolt),  spray some penetrating oil into > the brake area,  rotate the drum with your long bar,  spray > some more oil into the brake area,  and repeat rotating the drum.
> And then start trying to pull the drum off.  It will eventually come > off.  Your oil-saturated brake shoes will need replacing/relining but > they were probably bad anyway.
> good luck,
> Dale
> > I
> > have a 1972 Z600, the rear brake drum is stuck on the axle because the > > brakes are very slightly on and the wheel cylinder is rusted in position...
> > Does any one have any idea on how to remove this?? You can spin the drum > > only with leverage from a long > > bar!
> > Elliot

[ELLIOT OSHANA]

Thanks for responding!  I tried that...
but I have no way of grabbing the drum in a strong way to fight the friction...  whats the best way to grab the drum?
Elliot Oshana
President
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[zinc2u]

Try putting the tire (with the lug nuts) back on the drum.  The diameter of the tire will give you the leverage you need and something to hold.
good luck,
Dale

> Thanks for
> responding!  I tried that... but I have no way of grabbing the drum in a > strong way to fight the friction...  whats the best way to grab the > drum?

[kuranhonda]

Also back off the adjustment, anti clockwise, as much as it will go.

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2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, goinhm@... wrote:
> Try putting the tire (with the lug nuts) back on the drum. The diameter
> of the tire will give you the leverage you need and something to hold.
> good luck,
> Dale
> Thanks for responding! I tried that... but I have no way of grabbing the
> drum in a strong way to fight the friction... whats the best way to grab
> the drum?

[Bram Evenhuis]

In case you have some space to drive around, loosen the secure nut and secure it with a few mm play,then drive the car in circle it will come loose. When it is realy stuck and you are not able to rotate it any way,try to move the for and back until you get some motion,but allways unloosen the adjustmend nut first.Goodluck from the Netherlands (Europe).

[feltonminicycle]

Jack up the car, I guess you already did?! pop off the black rubber cap inside behind the wheel. Use a 7mm or 1/4" wrench and rotate the adjuster all the way towards the other wheel direction (loosening). You can squirt some penetrating oil on that area. Typically a heavy strike with a heavy hammer (5 to 10 pound sledge) will break the drum loose. I usually strike the wheel rim (not the hub cap).
Dont forget to remove the center nut below the center cap. Put the wheel back on loosely and sharply pull the drum off with the wheel.
Miles

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, "elliot62@..." wrote:
> I have a 1972 Z600, the rear brake drum is stuck on the axle because the brakes are very slightly on and the wheel cylinder is rusted in position... Does any one have any idea on how to remove this?? You can spin the drum only with leverage from a long bar!
> Elliot

[friend]

Elliot;
JC Whitney has a puller set for $18.00 or there is a HUB puller for $32.00 and up that is the best, the jaw type will not work.  Either of them give you more control when you are removing your brake drum.   And, don't forget to use goggles when striking metal to metal.  Always think safety first.
There are three 6mm bolt holes (used to hold the cap).  Pick up a puller, one of the three eared type and put large flat washers behind the head of the bolts.
Remove the castle nut, (use a flat bar to put across the area where the bearing meets the axel and tap it a bit to loosen any rust on the bearing surfaces) back off the brake shoe adjuster (use an 8mm wrench to back it off), and open the brake fluid bleed screw in case there is pressure built up there too.
Then put some pressure on the drum with the puller.  Tap the drum and give a quarter turn on the puller.  It should start to move but you may have to back off on the puller to allow the shoes to keep from binding, tap on the drum and put some more pressure with the puller.  It will come off.
Also, don't forget to use a plastic bag around the drum as it comes off.  Old shoes are made of asbestos and no since breathing that stuff in.
Bill

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> [2cylinderhondas] Removing Stuck Rear Brake drum???
> I have a 1972 Z600, the rear brake drum is stuck on the axle because the > brakes are very slightly on and the wheel cylinder is rusted in position...
> Does any one have any idea on how to remove this?? You can spin the drum only > with leverage from a long bar!
> Elliot

[ELLIOT OSHANA]

Is there a photo available somewhere that shows me what the rear brakes look like with the drum off?  That way I get get an idea of where the adjuster is and what it looks like?
Thanks in advance for your help!!!
Elliot Oshana
President
XXX-XXX-XXXX (cell) XXX-XXX-XXXX
80R Tuttle Road , Durham , CT   06422

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