Tailgate torsion bars

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Chuck Dean
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Tailgate torsion bars

Post by Chuck Dean »

Hi everyone,
I figured out how to get the torsion bar in  place, but every time I try to close the hatch the torsion bar popped out. It doesn't look like anything is broken, and according to the other torsion bar everything seems to be in place. Does anyone know of a reason why this is happening?
By the way, when the torsion bar broke loose it chip the paint on the roof of the car!
Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe Our 1961 Vespa 400
feltonminicycle
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Re: Tailgate torsion bars

Post by feltonminicycle »

It's better if you don't use the torsion bars. The extra stress on the hatch causes the stress cracks. Usually the reason they pop out of place is the pawls are worn.
Miles
Chuck Dean
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Re: Tailgate torsion bars

Post by Chuck Dean »

So... Do you remove the torsion bars, or just leave them be?
Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe Our 1961 Vespa 400
On Oct 5, 2017, at 9:34 PM,
z600miles@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
It's better if you don't use the torsion bars. The extra stress on the hatch causes the stress cracks. Usually the reason they pop out of place is the pawls are worn.
Miles
Chuck Dean
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Re: Tailgate torsion bars

Post by Chuck Dean »

Btw, thanks for all the info on the windshield seal and locking bead. I ordered one from Kevin, and had it installed. It looks fantastic!
Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe Our 1961 Vespa 400
On Oct 5, 2017, at 9:34 PM,
z600miles@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
It's better if you don't use the torsion bars. The extra stress on the hatch causes the stress cracks. Usually the reason they pop out of place is the pawls are worn.
Miles
dusty path
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Re: Tailgate torsion bars

Post by dusty path »

chuck did they take your windshield out  and put it back in with out braking the window ?? I wrote:
Btw, thanks for all the info on the windshield seal and locking bead. I ordered one from Kevin, and had it installed. It looks fantastic!
Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe Our 1961 Vespa 400 On Oct 5, 2017, at 9:34 PM, z600miles@...
[2cylinderhondas] It's better if you don't use the torsion bars. The extra stress on the hatch causes the stress cracks. Usually the reason they pop out of place is the pawls are worn.
> Miles
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Chuck Dean
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Re: Tailgate torsion bars

Post by Chuck Dean »

Yes, Bell Glass company in northwest Phoenix did the job. They had no problems! They actually had the windshield out of the car in less than six minutes, and had finished the entire job in less than an hour. After watching them, I dont understand why everybody was so afraid to do this job. I literally had to call six or seven different shops before I found somebody who is brave enough to handle this glass.
Miles chapel, who owns this list, also says that its a pretty easy job, and he has changed many when Scheels.
Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe Our 1961 Vespa 400
On Oct 6, 2017, at 5:39 AM, dusty path
dustyspath@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
chuck did they take your windshield out  and put it back in with out braking the window ?? I wrote:
Btw, thanks for all the info on the windshield seal and locking bead. I ordered one from Kevin, and had it installed. It looks fantastic!
Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
Our 1961 Vespa 400
On Oct 5, 2017, at 9:34 PM,
z600miles@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
> It's better if you don't use the torsion bars. The extra stress on the hatch causes the stress cracks. Usually the reason they pop out of place is the pawls are worn.
> Miles
dusty path
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Re: Tailgate torsion bars

Post by dusty path »

well chuck I am in AZ also but way up north  close to Lake Havasu and someone told me safelite glass( miss spelled ) can do it but have not called  I just order the rubber mines so hard its cracking  its as hard as rock  so I do know it will be a little harder to get out  with out braking it  and the class has some small chips  not big  and lots of small scratches that Im ok with been on the car since I got it  back in 1982  so I shore hope I can find someone to replace my rubber  and save the glass  but thanks for telling us
On Friday, October 6, 2017 7:48 AM, "Chuck Dean cadean329@... [2cylinderhondas]" wrote:
Yes, Bell Glass company in northwest Phoenix did the job. They had no problems! They actually had the windshield out of the car in less than six minutes, and had finished the entire job in less than an hour. After watching them, I dont understand why everybody was so afraid to do this job. I literally had to call six or seven different shops before I found somebody who is brave enough to handle this glass.
Miles chapel, who owns this list, also says that its a pretty easy job, and he has changed many when Scheels.
Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe Our 1961 Vespa 400 On Oct 6, 2017, at 5:39 AM, dusty path dustyspath@...
[2cylinderhondas] chuck did they take your windshield out  and put it back in with out braking the window ?? I On Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:46 PM, "Chuck Dean
> cadean329@...
> [2cylinderhondas]" 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > wrote:
> Btw, thanks for all the info on the windshield seal and locking bead. I ordered one from Kevin, and had it installed. It looks fantastic!
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> On Oct 5, 2017, at 9:34 PM,
> z600miles@...
> [2cylinderhondas] 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > wrote:
> > It's better if you don't use the torsion bars. The extra stress on the hatch causes the stress cracks. Usually the reason they pop out of place is the pawls are worn.
> > Miles
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Chuck Dean
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Re: Tailgate torsion bars

Post by Chuck Dean »

Personally, I would stay away from Safelite. Safelite is a national chain, and the guys that they  use are all a bunch of young technicians. You need to find an old-school shop, with a couple of  old geezers who know how to do things like in the good old days.
My windshield also had a chip in it that had been repaired, and the rubber surround in the windshield although it looked OK once they started removing it broke away very easily.
Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe Our 1961 Vespa 400
On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:09 AM, dusty path
dustyspath@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
well chuck I am in AZ also but way up north  close to Lake Havasu and someone told me safelite glass( miss spelled ) can do it but have not called  I just order the rubber mines so hard its cracking  its as hard as rock  so I do know it will be a little harder to get out  with out braking it  and the class has some small chips  not big  and lots of small scratches that Im ok with been on the car since I got it  back in 1982  so I shore hope I can find someone to replace my rubber  and save the glass  but thanks for telling us
On Friday, October 6, 2017 7:48 AM, "Chuck Dean
cadean329@...
[2cylinderhondas]" wrote:
Yes, Bell Glass company in northwest Phoenix did the job. They had no problems! They actually had the windshield out of the car in less than six minutes, and had finished the entire job in less than an hour. After watching them, I dont understand why everybody was so afraid to do this job. I literally had to call six or seven different shops before I found somebody who is brave enough to handle this glass.
Miles chapel, who owns this list, also says that its a pretty easy job, and he has changed many when Scheels.
Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
Our 1961 Vespa 400
On Oct 6, 2017, at 5:39 AM, dusty path
dustyspath@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
> chuck did they take your windshield out  and put it back in with out braking the window ?? I On Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:46 PM, "Chuck Dean
> cadean329@...
> [2cylinderhondas]" 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > wrote:
> Btw, thanks for all the info on the windshield seal and locking bead. I ordered one from Kevin, and had it installed. It looks fantastic!
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> On Oct 5, 2017, at 9:34 PM,
> z600miles@...
> [2cylinderhondas] 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > wrote:
> > It's better if you don't use the torsion bars. The extra stress on the hatch causes the stress cracks. Usually the reason they pop out of place is the pawls are worn.
> > Miles
dusty path
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Re: Tailgate torsion bars

Post by dusty path »

well I will do some looking around  but they guy that put a new window in my truck told me they had some older guys  that could do that and have done them before  but I will do some calling around  but its slim pickings around here LOL  country living  but thanks  will have to look around  if they brake the window  my insurance has to buy me one  as I have full replacement
On Friday, October 6, 2017 8:26 AM, "Chuck Dean cadean329@... [2cylinderhondas]" wrote:
Personally, I would stay away from Safelite. Safelite is a national chain, and the guys that they  use are all a bunch of young technicians. You need to find an old-school shop, with a couple of  old geezers who know how to do things like in the good old days.
My windshield also had a chip in it that had been repaired, and the rubber surround in the windshield although it looked OK once they started removing it broke away very easily.
Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe Our 1961 Vespa 400 On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:09 AM, dusty path dustyspath@...
[2cylinderhondas] well chuck I am in AZ also but way up north  close to Lake Havasu and someone told me safelite glass( miss spelled ) can do it but have not called  I just order the rubber mines so hard its cracking  its as hard as rock  so I do know it will be a little harder to get out  with out braking it  and the class has some small chips  not big  and lots of small scratches that Im ok with been on the car since I got it  back in 1982  so I shore hope I can find someone to replace my rubber  and save the glass  but thanks for telling us
> On Friday, October 6, 2017 7:48 AM, "Chuck Dean
> cadean329@...
> [2cylinderhondas]" 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > wrote:
> Yes, Bell Glass company in northwest Phoenix did the job. They had no problems! They actually had the windshield out of the car in less than six minutes, and had finished the entire job in less than an hour. After watching them, I dont understand why everybody was so afraid to do this job. I literally had to call six or seven different shops before I found somebody who is brave enough to handle this glass.
> Miles chapel, who owns this list, also says that its a pretty easy job, and he has changed many when Scheels.
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> On Oct 6, 2017, at 5:39 AM, dusty path
> dustyspath@...
> [2cylinderhondas] 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > wrote:
> > chuck did they take your windshield out  and put it back in with out braking the window ?? I > On Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:46 PM, "Chuck Dean
> > cadean329@...
> > [2cylinderhondas]" > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > wrote:
> > Btw, thanks for all the info on the windshield seal and locking bead. I ordered one from Kevin, and had it installed. It looks fantastic!
> > Chuck (mobile)
> > Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> > Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> > Our 1961 Vespa 400
> > On Oct 5, 2017, at 9:34 PM,
> > z600miles@...
> > [2cylinderhondas] > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > wrote:
> > > It's better if you don't use the torsion bars. The extra stress on the hatch causes the stress cracks. Usually the reason they pop out of place is the pawls are worn.
> > > Miles
[/quote]
Chuck Dean
Posts: 77
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:56 am

Re: Tailgate torsion bars

Post by Chuck Dean »

Well, in case you want to play it safe, you can load up your Honda on a trailer and drag it down to Phoenix. Here is a link to their website:
http://bellglassco.com/ Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe Our 1961 Vespa 400
On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:33 AM, dusty path
dustyspath@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
well I will do some looking around  but they guy that put a new window in my truck told me they had some older guys  that could do that and have done them before  but I will do some calling around  but its slim pickings around here LOL  country living  but thanks  will have to look around  if they brake the window  my insurance has to buy me one  as I have full replacement
On Friday, October 6, 2017 8:26 AM, "Chuck Dean
cadean329@...
[2cylinderhondas]" wrote:
Personally, I would stay away from Safelite. Safelite is a national chain, and the guys that they  use are all a bunch of young technicians. You need to find an old-school shop, with a couple of  old geezers who know how to do things like in the good old days.
My windshield also had a chip in it that had been repaired, and the rubber surround in the windshield although it looked OK once they started removing it broke away very easily.
Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
Our 1961 Vespa 400
On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:09 AM, dusty path
dustyspath@...
[2cylinderhondas] wrote:
> well chuck I am in AZ also but way up north  close to Lake Havasu and someone told me safelite glass( miss spelled ) can do it but have not called  I just order the rubber mines so hard its cracking  its as hard as rock  so I do know it will be a little harder to get out  with out braking it  and the class has some small chips  not big  and lots of small scratches that Im ok with been on the car since I got it  back in 1982  so I shore hope I can find someone to replace my rubber  and save the glass  but thanks for telling us
> On Friday, October 6, 2017 7:48 AM, "Chuck Dean
> cadean329@...
> [2cylinderhondas]" 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > wrote:
> Yes, Bell Glass company in northwest Phoenix did the job. They had no problems! They actually had the windshield out of the car in less than six minutes, and had finished the entire job in less than an hour. After watching them, I dont understand why everybody was so afraid to do this job. I literally had to call six or seven different shops before I found somebody who is brave enough to handle this glass.
> Miles chapel, who owns this list, also says that its a pretty easy job, and he has changed many when Scheels.
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> On Oct 6, 2017, at 5:39 AM, dusty path
> dustyspath@...
> [2cylinderhondas] 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > wrote:
> > chuck did they take your windshield out  and put it back in with out braking the window ?? I > On Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:46 PM, "Chuck Dean
> > cadean329@...
> > [2cylinderhondas]" > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > wrote:
> > Btw, thanks for all the info on the windshield seal and locking bead. I ordered one from Kevin, and had it installed. It looks fantastic!
> > Chuck (mobile)
> > Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> > Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> > Our 1961 Vespa 400
> > On Oct 5, 2017, at 9:34 PM,
> > z600miles@...
> > [2cylinderhondas] > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > wrote:
> > > It's better if you don't use the torsion bars. The extra stress on the hatch causes the stress cracks. Usually the reason they pop out of place is the pawls are worn.
> > > Miles
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