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mterrens
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lead additive?

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Does the 600 need lead additive added to the gas? Was it designed to run on
unleaded? Was unleaded around in '72?
Tamara Witherwax
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Re: lead additive?

Post by Tamara Witherwax »

Hi Steven:
It runs on unleaded.
Tam
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As per page 24 of my sedan owners manual it says "Use Low-lead gasoline with 91 research octane number or higher is recommended. If such gas is not available, you may use a leaded regular grade gasoline.
Does anybody know if the Honda 600 has hardened valve seats or not?
Greg
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Re: lead additive?

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(Low Lead) and (NO LEAD) are two different things!!!!!!!!
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> Subject:
> Re: [anzhonda600owners] lead
> additive?
> As per page 24 of my sedan owners manual it says "Use
> Low-lead
> gasoline with
> 91
> research octane number or higher is
> recommended. If such gas is not available, you may use a leaded regular grade > gasoline.
> Does anybody know if the Honda 600 has hardened valve seats or not?
> Greg
> Steven Michelsen stevenm@...
> wrote:
> > Does
> > the 600 need lead additive added to the gas?  Was it designed to run > > on > > unleaded?  Was unleaded around in '72?
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Re: lead additive?

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yes they are. But if the Honda 600 had hardened valve seats, then the lead was only needed to boost octane and not to cushion the valves, then 91 octane unleaded would be acceptable
Greg
Dan wrote:
> (Low Lead) and (NO LEAD) are two different things!!!!!!!!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > Greg Sikes
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:22 PM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [anzhonda600owners] lead additive?
> > As per page 24 of my sedan owners manual it says "Use
> > Low-lead
> > gasoline with
> > 91
> > research octane number or higher is recommended. If such gas is not available, you may use a leaded regular grade gasoline.
> > Does anybody know if the Honda 600 has hardened valve seats or not?
> > Greg
> > Steven Michelsen > stevenm@...
> > wrote:
> > > Does the 600 need lead additive added to the gas?  Was it designed to run on > > > unleaded?  Was unleaded around in '72?
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Re: lead additive?

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Not sure But I think you will find that the valve seats are not hardened. where is Bill when you need him?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Greg Sikes
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> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:46
> PM
> Subject:
> Re: [anzhonda600owners] lead
> additive?
> yes they are. But if the Honda 600 had hardened valve seats, then the lead > was only needed to boost octane and not to cushion the valves, then 91 octane > unleaded would be acceptable
> Greg
> Dan dk1bear@...
> wrote:
> > (Low Lead) and (NO LEAD) are two different
> > things!!!!!!!!
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > Greg
> > > Sikes
> > > To:
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:22
> > > PM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [anzhonda600owners] lead
> > > additive?
> > > As per page 24 of my sedan owners manual it says "Use
> > > Low-lead
> > > gasoline with
> > > 91
> > > research octane number or
> > > higher is recommended. If such gas is not available, you may use a leaded > > > regular grade gasoline.
> > > Does anybody know if the Honda 600 has hardened valve seats or not?
> > > Greg
> > > Steven Michelsen > > stevenm@...
> > > wrote:
> > > > Does
> > > > the 600 need lead additive added to the gas?  Was it designed to > > > > run on > > > > unleaded?  Was unleaded around in > > > > '72?
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Re: lead additive?

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Hi Dan;
    Unleaded has been around for a very long time.  Arco has always sold it.  Yes, the valve guides and seats are more than up to Unleaded.  Drive it on regular or 92 either will do.   But it must be tuned, oil changed, and lots of light footed starts to attain the high mileage everyone talks about.  Remember, if you run it like a race car, you will fix it like one.  And race cars are rebuilt after every race.
Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Dan
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> Sent:
> Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:49
> PM
> Subject:
> Re: [anzhonda600owners] lead
> additive?
> Not sure But I think you will find that the valve
> seats are not hardened. where is Bill when you need him?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > Greg
> > Sikes
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent:
> > Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:46
> > PM
> > Subject:
> > Re: [anzhonda600owners] lead
> > additive?
> > yes they are. But if the Honda 600 had hardened valve seats, then the > > lead was only needed to boost octane and not to cushion the valves, then 91 > > octane unleaded would be acceptable
> > Greg
> > Dan > dk1bear@...
> > wrote:
> > > (Low Lead) and (NO LEAD) are two different
> > > things!!!!!!!!
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From:
> > > > Greg
> > > > Sikes
> > > > To:
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent:
> > > > Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:22
> > > > PM
> > > > Subject:
> > > > Re: [anzhonda600owners]
> > > > lead additive?
> > > > As per page 24 of my sedan owners manual it says "Use
> > > > Low-lead
> > > > gasoline with
> > > > 91
> > > > research
> > > > octane number or higher is recommended. If such gas is not available, > > > > you may use a leaded regular grade gasoline.
> > > > Does anybody know if the Honda 600 has hardened valve seats or not?
> > > > Greg
> > > > Steven Michelsen > > > stevenm@...
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Does
> > > > > the 600 need lead additive added to the gas?  Was it designed to > > > > > run on > > > > > unleaded?  Was unleaded around in > > > > > '72?
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Re: lead additive?

Post by d.vallejo »

Steven,
I'm a bit late on the reply to your pole and leaded question. Before I
had to tear down my 72 engine, dure to a fragmented oil pump drive, I getting
around 50 mpg at 65mph on long runs. As for leaded fule and the impact on the
engine. When the lead was removed from ground vehicle gasoline I went to the
local Harley Davidson dealership and bought bottles of lead additive. Harley's
have 5 gallon tanks and so does the sedan. Yes there was leaded gas in '72.
As I said everything was fine until the oil pump drive came apart.
Don V.
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