Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Electric Pump Alternatives?

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Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Electric Pump Alternatives?

Post by friend »

Now you are getting the job done Jeff.
    What many don't see happening is that rust forms pockets under several layers of dried fuel, amounting to a sealing agent until fresh fuel is put into the fuel tank.  As the layers of old fuel are dissolved from the inside of the tank these rust pockets are opened to the inside of your fuel tank and it starts to clog....   Steam cleaning or etching removes the old fuel.  Rattling a chain... etc around inside of the tank helps to break up the rust.  But, the tank still needs to be sealed.  And, you must follow the instructions to the letter.
Doing so will ensure you have trouble free use of your older car.
Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com] > On > Behalf Of > jeffanson2005 > Sent:
> Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:31
> PM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Re: Electric Pump Alternatives?
> Hi all!
> I had this problem 2 weeks ago, but already replaced the
> stock pump
> with a new one 3-4psi and car ran great for a week then died on
> morning on the way to work. Here's what I found.
> It took 20 minutes
> to remove the gas tank. Dropped it after draining
> it. In the course of
> draining the tank, i did not see any corrosion
> from rust which may have
> accumulated before I bought the car. But
> when I got the tank out, pulled
> the gas level indicator, I was able
> to shake out (no kidding) 4 handfulls
> of rust. WOW! Cleaned the
> tank so far by dropping some heavy chain inside
> and shaking it real
> good and banging and shaking out any more
> rust.
> Also the pickup tube which comes from the inside bottom of the > tank > to your fuel line was so clogged, I could not blow through it. I
> managed to bend a coat hanger wire and break up the clog from the
> inside then sucked it out with a shop vac and line is clear now.
> This
> was the problem the whole time. Even gave me that loud clicking > sound some > of you hear when the fuel pump cant pull any gas into the > pump. So I > followed Bills' advice on tank restoration and purchased > etch and sealer > from the Hirsch restoration web site. ($28) I'm > letting the etch dry now > and hope to seal it up on Friday.
> Hope this info helps you guys and
> gals who are having the same
> problem.
> Jeff
> 72 Z600
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> ,
> goinhm@... wrote:
> > You can buy an electric fuel pump
> and stick it under the hood if
> you want.
> > You can buy the brass
> splices at Home Depot to allow you to tie
> lines
> > together and
> extend the fuel line under the hood. You can keep
> the fuel filter
> under the rear seat and let the pump be under the hood. Also, you > don't > have to > > use the original style fuel filter. You can use one of the
> inexpensive
> > inline filters (metal or plastic) and place it under
> the seat or
> under the hood.
> > You used the stock filter because
> that was the only thing which
> would fit
> > under the seat. Without
> the space limitation, you can pick other
> filters. The
> > fuel pump
> should be 4 psi which is what most electric fuel pumps
> for older
> cars with a carb will be rated. Double check your connections so > you do > not > > get any fuel leaks.
> > I have found the stock fuel
> pumps to be reliable. I have several
> cars which
> > still work with
> their original pumps. The problem pumps I have
> found were
> > on cars
> which sat for long periods of time. Perhaps some
> moisture settled in
> > the pump and caused some corrosion. Using an aftermarket pump is
> a quick
> > fix and they are easy to find. Get one for a carbureted
> car and
> not fuel
> > injected.
> > good luck,
> Dale
> > the afore mentioned swiss army knife. That worked. The
> pump worked
> > and I drove it home grabbed the newer car. Anyway, I have > 2 other > > pumps that work, But I want to mount the filter in a more
> accesable
> > location under the hood. What has everybody done to
> replace their
> fuel
> > pump?
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[2cylinderhondas] Re: Electric Pump Alternatives?

Post by jeffanson2005 »

Update. Its been about a week and the etch is finally dry enough to
get the sealer in there. Gonna sealer it up tomorrow. Dont know why
it took so long for etch to dry up (and yes I did empty excess out of
tank after recommended time period) I did however leave the etch in
about 1 hour extra before draining. It remove most of the visual
rust and turn the rest into a tough gooey black tar substance. I
swooshed around some seafoam to break up any excess etch still in the
tank last Wed (2 days after etch was poured into the tank). Hope all
seals well and I'll give another update.
Jeff
Miami,FL
72 Z600
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, wrote:
> Now you are getting the job done Jeff.
> What many don't see happening is that rust forms pockets under
several
> layers of dried fuel, amounting to a sealing agent until fresh fuel
is put
> into the fuel tank. As the layers of old fuel are dissolved from
the inside
> of the tank these rust pockets are opened to the inside of your
fuel tank
> and it starts to clog.... Steam cleaning or etching removes the
old fuel.
> Rattling a chain... etc around inside of the tank helps to break up
the
> rust. But, the tank still needs to be sealed. And, you must
follow the
> instructions to the letter. Doing so will ensure you have trouble
free use
> of your older car.
> Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
]On Behalf Of jeffanson2005
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:31 PM
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Electric Pump Alternatives?
> Hi all!
> I had this problem 2 weeks ago, but already replaced the stock
pump
> with a new one 3-4psi and car ran great for a week then died on
> morning on the way to work. Here's what I found.
> It took 20 minutes to remove the gas tank. Dropped it after
draining
> it. In the course of draining the tank, i did not see any
corrosion
> from rust which may have accumulated before I bought the car. But
> when I got the tank out, pulled the gas level indicator, I was
able
> to shake out (no kidding) 4 handfulls of rust. WOW! Cleaned the
> tank so far by dropping some heavy chain inside and shaking it
real
> good and banging and shaking out any more rust.
> Also the pickup tube which comes from the inside bottom of the
tank
> to your fuel line was so clogged, I could not blow through it. I
> managed to bend a coat hanger wire and break up the clog from the
> inside then sucked it out with a shop vac and line is clear now.
> This was the problem the whole time. Even gave me that loud
clicking
> sound some of you hear when the fuel pump cant pull any gas into
the
> pump. So I followed Bills' advice on tank restoration and
purchased
> etch and sealer from the Hirsch restoration web site. ($28) I'm
> letting the etch dry now and hope to seal it up on Friday.
> Hope this info helps you guys and gals who are having the same
> problem.
> Jeff
> 72 Z600
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, goinhm@ wrote:
> > You can buy an electric fuel pump and stick it under the hood if
> you want.
> > You can buy the brass splices at Home Depot to allow you to tie
> lines
> > together and extend the fuel line under the hood. You can keep
> the fuel filter
> > under the rear seat and let the pump be under the hood. Also,
you
> don't have to
> > use the original style fuel filter. You can use one of the
> inexpensive
> > inline filters (metal or plastic) and place it under the seat or
> under the hood.
> > You used the stock filter because that was the only thing which
> would fit
> > under the seat. Without the space limitation, you can pick other
> filters. The
> > fuel pump should be 4 psi which is what most electric fuel pumps
> for older
> > cars with a carb will be rated. Double check your connections so
> you do not
> > get any fuel leaks.
> > I have found the stock fuel pumps to be reliable. I have several
> cars which
> > still work with their original pumps. The problem pumps I have
> found were
> > on cars which sat for long periods of time. Perhaps some
> moisture settled in
> > the pump and caused some corrosion. Using an aftermarket pump is
> a quick
> > fix and they are easy to find. Get one for a carbureted car and
> not fuel
> > injected.
> > good luck,
> > Dale
> > the afore mentioned swiss army knife. That worked. The pump
worked
> > and I drove it home grabbed the newer car. Anyway, I have 2
other
> > pumps that work, But I want to mount the filter in a more
> accesable
> > location under the hood. What has everybody done to replace
their
> fuel
> > pump?
> > **************************************Check out AOL's list of
> 2007's hottest
> > products.
> > (
http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?
> NCID=aoltop00030000000001)
David Dave
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[2cylinderhondas] Re: Electric Pump Alternatives?

Post by David Dave »

Hi Guys,
I have 2 pumps in my pile of parts one looks to have been repainted
and the other still has gold coloring on it. I hit them to a battery
and they both made noise. Fell freee to make an offer to
MyGoliath@....
Dave
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