50 MPG possible?

lyletrudell · Post by **lyletrudell** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:15 pm

Is 50mpg possible from a well tuned 600?
Constant 40-50mph, with a vacuum gauge, flat ground.
?
Lyle
Megamike wrote:
"55 miles per gallon. That's my highway mileage goal. I know the car can get
about 52mpg, and I'm hoping a rebuilt engine and carb will help that even more.
Of course I keep the speed between 40 and 45 miles per hour in order to get
that, but I'm the kind of guy that likes to stop, smell roses, take naps, cruise
through scenic routes, and basically take my sweet time."

Mega · Post by **Mega** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:42 pm

Of course it's possible. I'm really good at calculating mileage on a road trip, and I got a little over 50mpg when I drove my newly acquired Z600 from Texas to Missouri. It's especially easy to keep track of your mileage when your gas tank is so small.
Low speed is key. Also driving characteristics make a big difference to. I let it slow down to about 30 or 35 while going up hills, and rarely go over 50. In fact, I usually keep the speed around 40 - 45. I know my car will go faster than that, but I prefer longevity and high mileage over getting there quicker.
I'm studying to be a high school Physics instructor one day. I can easily show you how the amount of energy of a moving object increases with the square of the velocity.
(Kinetic Energy = Mass times Velocity Squared)
I'm curious: What kind of mileage do most people expect from a honda 600?? And how fast do you usually drive it?
Here's a copy from wikipedia about the Honda 360:
""As with all cars in the Kei class, the Z360's specifications were tightly governed. The Z360 features an air-cooled, 354-cc, 2-cylinder engine with a 4- or 5-speed transmission driving the front wheels. The Z600 model's 598-cc engine was rated at 36 hp (26 kW). The 354-cc version was available in Australia. One car magazine recording 136 mpg-imp (2.08 L/100 km; 113 mpg-US) when they didn't exceed 30 mph (48 km/h),[1] which came at almost the perfect time with a gasoline shortage looming.""
113mpg??!! That would be awesome! If only we could convince the government to lower the minimum speed requirement on most United States Interstate Highways from 40mph to about 25mph. Then I could drive from Los Angeles to New York City on about 75 dollars in a Honda 360. Although it would literally take me about 9 - 10 days to get there. ha ha ha.

--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "lyletrudell" wrote:
> Is 50mpg possible from a well tuned 600?
> Constant 40-50mph, with a vacuum gauge, flat ground.
> ?
> Lyle
> Megamike wrote:
> "55 miles per gallon. That's my highway mileage goal. I know the car can get
> about 52mpg, and I'm hoping a rebuilt engine and carb will help that even more.
> Of course I keep the speed between 40 and 45 miles per hour in order to get
> that, but I'm the kind of guy that likes to stop, smell roses, take naps, cruise
> through scenic routes, and basically take my sweet time."

mterrens · Post by **mterrens** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:31 pm

I have a vague recollection of reading about a test done in the '70s with a Honda 600 on a flat track, going a steady 35mph, and getting 100 mpg. Can anyone substantiate this? I cannot find the reference.
Steve

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Mega
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:40
> PM
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG
> possible?
> Of course it's possible. I'm really good at calculating mileage on a > road trip, and I got a little over 50mpg when I drove my newly acquired Z600 > from Texas to Missouri. It's especially easy to keep track of your mileage > when your gas tank is so small.
> Low speed is key. Also driving
> characteristics make a big difference to. I let it slow down to about 30 or 35 > while going up hills, and rarely go over 50. In fact, I usually keep the speed > around 40 - 45. I know my car will go faster than that, but I prefer longevity > and high mileage over getting there quicker.
> I'm studying to be a high
> school Physics instructor one day. I can easily show you how the amount of > energy of a moving object increases with the square of the > velocity.
> (Kinetic Energy = Mass times Velocity Squared)
> I'm
> curious: What kind of mileage do most people expect from a honda 600?? And how > fast do you usually drive it?
> Here's a copy from wikipedia about the
> Honda 360:
> ""As with all cars in the Kei class, the Z360's specifications > were tightly governed. The Z360 features an air-cooled, 354-cc, 2-cylinder > engine with a 4- or 5-speed transmission driving the front wheels. The Z600 > model's 598-cc engine was rated at 36 hp (26 kW). The 354-cc version was > available in Australia. One car magazine recording 136 mpg-imp (2.08 L/100 km; > 113 mpg-US) when they didn't exceed 30 mph (48 km/h),[1] which came at almost > the perfect time with a gasoline shortage looming."" > 113mpg??!! That > would be awesome! If only we could convince the government to lower the > minimum speed requirement on most United States Interstate Highways from 40mph > to about 25mph. Then I could drive from Los Angeles to New York City on about > 75 dollars in a Honda 360. Although it would literally take me about 9 - 10 > days to get there. ha ha ha.
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> "lyletrudell" wrote:
> > Is 50mpg possible
> from a well tuned 600?
> > Constant 40-50mph, with a vacuum gauge, flat
> ground.
> > ?
> > Lyle
> > Megamike wrote:
> > "55
> miles per gallon. That's my highway mileage goal. I know the car can > get > > about 52mpg, and I'm hoping a rebuilt engine and carb will help > that even more.
> > Of course I keep the speed between 40 and 45 miles
> per hour in order to get
> > that, but I'm the kind of guy that likes to
> stop, smell roses, take naps, cruise
> > through scenic routes, and
> basically take my sweet time."

Mega · Post by **Mega** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:08 pm

Are you sure it was a 600 and not a 360? 100mpg seems high for a 600, even at a low speed of 35mph.

--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Steven Michelsen wrote:
> I have a vague recollection of reading about a test done in the '70s with a Honda 600 on a flat track, going a steady 35mph, and getting 100 mpg. Can anyone substantiate this? I cannot find the reference.
> Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mega
> To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:40 PM
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG possible?
> Of course it's possible. I'm really good at calculating mileage on a road trip, and I got a little over 50mpg when I drove my newly acquired Z600 from Texas to Missouri. It's especially easy to keep track of your mileage when your gas tank is so small.
> Low speed is key. Also driving characteristics make a big difference to. I let it slow down to about 30 or 35 while going up hills, and rarely go over 50. In fact, I usually keep the speed around 40 - 45. I know my car will go faster than that, but I prefer longevity and high mileage over getting there quicker.
> I'm studying to be a high school Physics instructor one day. I can easily show you how the amount of energy of a moving object increases with the square of the velocity.
> (Kinetic Energy = Mass times Velocity Squared)
> I'm curious: What kind of mileage do most people expect from a honda 600?? And how fast do you usually drive it?
> Here's a copy from wikipedia about the Honda 360:
> ""As with all cars in the Kei class, the Z360's specifications were tightly governed. The Z360 features an air-cooled, 354-cc, 2-cylinder engine with a 4- or 5-speed transmission driving the front wheels. The Z600 model's 598-cc engine was rated at 36 hp (26 kW). The 354-cc version was available in Australia. One car magazine recording 136 mpg-imp (2.08 L/100 km; 113 mpg-US) when they didn't exceed 30 mph (48 km/h),[1] which came at almost the perfect time with a gasoline shortage looming.""
> 113mpg??!! That would be awesome! If only we could convince the government to lower the minimum speed requirement on most United States Interstate Highways from 40mph to about 25mph. Then I could drive from Los Angeles to New York City on about 75 dollars in a Honda 360. Although it would literally take me about 9 - 10 days to get there. ha ha ha.
> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "lyletrudell" wrote:
> > Is 50mpg possible from a well tuned 600?
> > Constant 40-50mph, with a vacuum gauge, flat ground.
> > ?
> > Lyle
> > Megamike wrote:
> > "55 miles per gallon. That's my highway mileage goal. I know the car can get
> > about 52mpg, and I'm hoping a rebuilt engine and carb will help that even more.
> > Of course I keep the speed between 40 and 45 miles per hour in order to get
> > that, but I'm the kind of guy that likes to stop, smell roses, take naps, cruise
> > through scenic routes, and basically take my sweet time."

mterrens · Post by **mterrens** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:26 pm

Pretty sure it was a 600. 35mph in 4th gear is just a bit over idling.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Mega
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Wednesday, June 09, 2010 3:08
> PM
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG
> possible?
> Are you sure it was a 600 and not a 360? 100mpg seems high for a 600, > even at a low speed of 35mph.
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> Steven Michelsen wrote:
> > I have a vague
> recollection of reading about a test done in the '70s with a Honda 600 on a > flat track, going a steady 35mph, and getting 100 mpg. Can anyone substantiate > this? I cannot find the reference.
> > Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mega
> > To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:40 PM
> > Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG possible?
> > Of course it's possible. I'm really good at calculating mileage on a > road trip, and I got a little over 50mpg when I drove my newly acquired Z600 > from Texas to Missouri. It's especially easy to keep track of your mileage > when your gas tank is so small.
> > Low speed is key. Also
> driving characteristics make a big difference to. I let it slow down to about > 30 or 35 while going up hills, and rarely go over 50. In fact, I usually keep > the speed around 40 - 45. I know my car will go faster than that, but I prefer > longevity and high mileage over getting there quicker.
> > I'm
> studying to be a high school Physics instructor one day. I can easily show you > how the amount of energy of a moving object increases with the square of the > velocity.
> > (Kinetic Energy = Mass times Velocity Squared)
> > I'm curious: What kind of mileage do most people expect from a honda > 600?? And how fast do you usually drive it?
> > Here's a copy
> from wikipedia about the Honda 360:
> > ""As with all cars in the Kei
> class, the Z360's specifications were tightly governed. The Z360 features an > air-cooled, 354-cc, 2-cylinder engine with a 4- or 5-speed transmission > driving the front wheels. The Z600 model's 598-cc engine was rated at 36 hp > (26 kW). The 354-cc version was available in Australia. One car magazine > recording 136 mpg-imp (2.08 L/100 km; 113 mpg-US) when they didn't exceed 30 > mph (48 km/h),[1] which came at almost the perfect time with a gasoline > shortage looming.""
> > 113mpg??!! That would be awesome! If only
> we could convince the government to lower the minimum speed requirement on > most United States Interstate Highways from 40mph to about 25mph. Then I could > drive from Los Angeles to New York City on about 75 dollars in a Honda 360.
> Although it would literally take me about 9 - 10 days to get there. ha ha > ha.
> > --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> "lyletrudell" wrote:
> > > Is 50mpg
> possible from a well tuned 600?
> > > Constant 40-50mph, with a vacuum
> gauge, flat ground.
> > > ?
> > > Lyle
> > Megamike wrote:
> > > "55 miles per gallon. That's my highway
> mileage goal. I know the car can get
> > > about 52mpg, and I'm hoping
> a rebuilt engine and carb will help that even more.
> > > Of course I
> keep the speed between 40 and 45 miles per hour in order to get
> that, but I'm the kind of guy that likes to stop, smell roses, take naps, > cruise > > > through scenic routes, and basically take my sweet > time."

blake neilson · Post by **blake neilson** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:58 am

I purchased mine new, and around town, normal driving it got 38 MPG. I made a loop around I 635/I 35/ I 30 in Dallas at the then posted speed limit of 55 mph and used exactly one gallon to go 51 miles.
100 mpg at 35 MPH on a level track doesn't seem too far fetched to me.
BN

--- On
Wed, 6/9/10, Steven Michelsen

wrote:
> From: Steven Michelsen
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG possible?
> To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 1:21 PM
> Pretty sure it was a 600. 35mph in 4th gear
> is just a bit over idling.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > Mega
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent:
> > Wednesday, June 09, 2010 3:08
> > PM
> > Subject:
> > [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG
> > possible?
> > Are you sure it was a 600 and not a 360? 100mpg seems high for a 600, > > even at a low speed of 35mph.
> > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > ,
> > Steven Michelsen wrote:
> > > I have a vague
> > recollection of reading about a test done in the '70s with a Honda 600 on a > > flat track, going a steady 35mph, and getting 100 mpg. Can anyone substantiate > > this? I cannot find the reference.
> > > Steve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Mega
> > > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:40 PM
> > > Subject:
> > [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG possible?
> > > Of course it's possible. I'm really good at calculating mileage on a > > road trip, and I got a little over 50mpg when I drove my newly acquired Z600 > > from Texas to Missouri. It's especially easy to keep track of your mileage > > when your gas tank is so small.
> > > Low speed is key. Also
> > driving characteristics make a big difference to. I let it slow down to about > > 30 or 35 while going up hills, and rarely go over 50. In fact, I usually keep > > the speed around 40 - 45. I know my car will go faster than that, but I prefer > > longevity and high mileage over getting there quicker.
> > > I'm
> > studying to be a high school Physics instructor one day. I can easily show you > > how the amount of energy of a moving object increases with the square of the > > velocity.
> > > (Kinetic Energy = Mass times Velocity Squared)
> > > I'm curious: What kind of mileage do most people expect from a honda > > 600?? And how fast do you usually drive it?
> > > Here's a copy
> > from wikipedia about the Honda 360:
> > > ""As with all cars in the Kei
> > class, the Z360's specifications were tightly governed. The Z360 features an > > air-cooled, 354-cc, 2-cylinder engine with a 4- or 5-speed transmission > > driving the front wheels. The Z600 model's 598-cc engine was rated at 36 hp > > (26 kW). The 354-cc version was available in Australia. One car magazine > > recording 136 mpg-imp (2.08 L/100 km; 113 mpg-US) when they didn't exceed 30 > > mph (48 km/h),[1] which came at almost the perfect time with a gasoline > > shortage looming.""
> > > 113mpg??!! That would be awesome! If only
> > we could convince the government to lower the minimum speed requirement on > > most United States Interstate Highways from 40mph to about 25mph. Then I could > > drive from Los Angeles to New York City on about 75 dollars in a Honda 360.
> > Although it would literally take me about 9 - 10 days to get there. ha ha > > ha.
> > > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > ,
> > "lyletrudell" wrote:
> > > > Is 50mpg
> > possible from a well tuned 600?
> > > > Constant 40-50mph, with a vacuum
> > gauge, flat ground.
> > > > ?
> > > > Lyle
> > > Megamike wrote:
> > > > "55 miles per gallon. That's my highway
> > mileage goal. I know the car can get
> > > > about 52mpg, and I'm hoping
> > a rebuilt engine and carb will help that even more.
> > > > Of course I
> > keep the speed between 40 and 45 miles per hour in order to get
> > that, but I'm the kind of guy that likes to stop, smell roses, take naps, > > cruise > > > > through scenic routes, and basically take my sweet > > time."

friend · Post by **friend** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:48 am

�
Blake;
I found that aluminum rims gave me a better chance of obtaining 40 + MPG.
Then old habits seem to keep me in the 35 to 38 MPG range anyway.
Bill

> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of
> blake
> neilson
> Sent:
> Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:58 AM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re: [anzhonda600owners]
> Re: 50 MPG possible?
> I purchased mine new, and around town, normal driving it
> got 38 MPG. I made a loop around I 635/I 35/ I 30 in Dallas at the > then posted speed limit of 55 mph and used exactly one gallon to go 51 > miles.
> 100 mpg at 35 MPH on a level track doesn't seem too far
> fetched to me.
> BN
> --- On
> Wed, 6/9/10, Steven Michelsen
>
> wrote:
> > From:
> > Steven Michelsen
> > Subject: Re:
> > [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG possible?
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, June
> > 9, 2010, 1:21 PM
> > Pretty sure it was a 600. 35mph in
> > 4th gear is just a bit over idling.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > Mega
> > > To:
> > > anzhonda600owners@
> > > yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent:
> > > Wednesday, June 09, 2010
> > > 3:08 PM
> > > Subject:
> > > [anzhonda600owners]
> > > Re: 50 MPG possible?
> > > Are you sure it was a 600 and not a 360? 100mpg seems high > > > for a 600, even at a low speed of 35mph.
> > > --- In
> > > anzhonda600owners@
> > > yahoogroups. com
> > > , Steven Michelsen
> > > wrote:
> > > > I have a vague recollection of reading about
> > > a test done in the '70s with a Honda 600 on a flat track, going a > > > steady 35mph, and getting 100 mpg. Can anyone substantiate this? I > > > cannot find the reference.
> > > > Steve
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Mega
> > > > To:
> > > anzhonda600owners@
> > > yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:40
> > > PM
> > > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG possible?
> > > > Of course it's possible. I'm
> > > really good at calculating mileage on a road trip, and I got a > > > little over 50mpg when I drove my newly acquired Z600 from Texas to > > > Missouri. It's especially easy to keep track of your mileage when > > > your gas tank is so small.
> > > > Low speed is key. Also
> > > driving characteristics make a big difference to. I let it slow down > > > to about 30 or 35 while going up hills, and rarely go over 50. In > > > fact, I usually keep the speed around 40 - 45. I know my car will go > > > faster than that, but I prefer longevity and high mileage over > > > getting there quicker.
> > > > I'm studying to be a high
> > > school Physics instructor one day. I can easily show you how the > > > amount of energy of a moving object increases with the square of the > > > velocity.
> > > > (Kinetic Energy = Mass times Velocity
> > > Squared)
> > > > I'm curious: What kind of mileage do most
> > > people expect from a honda 600?? And how fast do you usually drive > > > it?
> > > > Here's a copy from wikipedia about the Honda
> > > 360:
> > > > ""As with all cars in the Kei class, the Z360's
> > > specifications were tightly governed. The Z360 features an > > > air-cooled, 354-cc, 2-cylinder engine with a 4- or 5-speed > > > transmission driving the front wheels. The Z600 model's 598-cc > > > engine was rated at 36 hp (26 kW). The 354-cc version was available > > > in Australia. One car magazine recording 136 mpg-imp (2.08 L/100 km; > > > 113 mpg-US) when they didn't exceed 30 mph (48 km/h),[1] which came > > > at almost the perfect time with a gasoline shortage > > > looming.""
> > > > 113mpg??!! That would be awesome! If
> > > only we could convince the government to lower the minimum speed > > > requirement on most United States Interstate Highways from 40mph to > > > about 25mph. Then I could drive from Los Angeles to New York City on > > > about 75 dollars in a Honda 360. Although it would literally take me > > > about 9 - 10 days to get there. ha ha ha.
> > > > --- In
> > > anzhonda600owners@
> > > yahoogroups. com
> > > , "lyletrudell"
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Is 50mpg possible from a well tuned
> > > 600?
> > > > > Constant 40-50mph, with a vacuum gauge, flat
> > > ground.
> > > > > ?
> > > > > Lyle
> > > Megamike wrote:
> > > > > "55 miles per gallon. That's my highway
> > > mileage goal. I know the car can get
> > > > > about 52mpg, and
> > > I'm hoping a rebuilt engine and carb will help that even more.
> > > > > Of course I keep the speed between 40 and 45 miles per > > > hour in order to get > > > > > that, but I'm the kind of guy that > > > likes to stop, smell roses, take naps, cruise > > > > > through > > > scenic routes, and basically take my sweet time."

lyletrudell · Post by **lyletrudell** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:41 am

Blake & Bill, I have a new plan for my coupe, 60 MPG at 45-55mph!
Everything I own I have tried to get more HP out of.
I still want to get the engine running as good as possible.
No stripping the car for weight savings.
Don't want to mess with gearing for MPG, the car is slow enough.
Let's brain storm MPG.
*Free flow intake & exhaust.
*Leaner carb jets.
*Electronic ignition, with hotter coil and wider gap plugs.
*Install vacuum gage.
*Lighter rims
Ideas?
Lyle

--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, wrote:
> Blake;
> I found that aluminum rims gave me a better chance of obtaining 40 + MPG. Then old habits seem to keep me in the 35 to 38 MPG range anyway.
> Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
]On Behalf Of blake neilson
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:58 AM
> To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG possible?
> I purchased mine new, and around town, normal driving it got 38 MPG. I made a loop around I 635/I 35/ I 30 in Dallas at the then posted speed limit of 55 mph and used exactly one gallon to go 51 miles.
> 100 mpg at 35 MPH on a level track doesn't seem too far fetched to me.
> BN
> --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Steven Michelsen wrote:
> From: Steven Michelsen
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG possible?
> To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 1:21 PM
> Pretty sure it was a 600. 35mph in 4th gear is just a bit over idling.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mega
> To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 3:08 PM
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG possible?
> Are you sure it was a 600 and not a 360? 100mpg seems high for a 600, even at a low speed of 35mph.
> --- In anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com, Steven Michelsen wrote:
> > I have a vague recollection of reading about a test done in the '70s with a Honda 600 on a flat track, going a steady 35mph, and getting 100 mpg. Can anyone substantiate this? I cannot find the reference.
> > Steve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mega
> > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:40 PM
> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG possible?
> > Of course it's possible. I'm really good at calculating mileage on a road trip, and I got a little over 50mpg when I drove my newly acquired Z600 from Texas to Missouri. It's especially easy to keep track of your mileage when your gas tank is so small.
> > Low speed is key. Also driving characteristics make a big difference to. I let it slow down to about 30 or 35 while going up hills, and rarely go over 50. In fact, I usually keep the speed around 40 - 45. I know my car will go faster than that, but I prefer longevity and high mileage over getting there quicker.
> > I'm studying to be a high school Physics instructor one day. I can easily show you how the amount of energy of a moving object increases with the square of the velocity.
> > (Kinetic Energy = Mass times Velocity Squared)
> > I'm curious: What kind of mileage do most people expect from a honda 600?? And how fast do you usually drive it?
> > Here's a copy from wikipedia about the Honda 360:
> > ""As with all cars in the Kei class, the Z360's specifications were tightly governed. The Z360 features an air-cooled, 354-cc, 2-cylinder engine with a 4- or 5-speed transmission driving the front wheels. The Z600 model's 598-cc engine was rated at 36 hp (26 kW). The 354-cc version was available in Australia. One car magazine recording 136 mpg-imp (2.08 L/100 km; 113 mpg-US) when they didn't exceed 30 mph (48 km/h),[1] which came at almost the perfect time with a gasoline shortage looming.""
> > 113mpg??!! That would be awesome! If only we could convince the government to lower the minimum speed requirement on most United States Interstate Highways from 40mph to about 25mph. Then I could drive from Los Angeles to New York City on about 75 dollars in a Honda 360. Although it would literally take me about 9 - 10 days to get there. ha ha ha.
> > --- In anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com, "lyletrudell" wrote:
> > > Is 50mpg possible from a well tuned 600?
> > > Constant 40-50mph, with a vacuum gauge, flat ground.
> > > ?
> > > Lyle
> > > Megamike wrote:
> > > "55 miles per gallon. That's my highway mileage goal. I know the car can get
> > > about 52mpg, and I'm hoping a rebuilt engine and carb will help that even more.
> > > Of course I keep the speed between 40 and 45 miles per hour in order to get
> > > that, but I'm the kind of guy that likes to stop, smell roses, take naps, cruise
> > > through scenic routes, and basically take my sweet time."

T W S · Post by **T W S** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:54 am

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--- On
Sun, 6/13/10, lyletrudell

wrote:
> From: lyletrudell
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG possible?
> To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 11:37 AM
> Blake & Bill, I have a new plan for my coupe, 60 MPG at 45-55mph!
> Everything I own I have tried to get more HP out of.
> I still want to get the engine running as good as possible.
> No stripping the car for weight savings.
> Don't want to mess with gearing for MPG, the car is slow enough.
> Let's brain storm MPG.
> *Free flow intake & exhaust.
> *Leaner carb jets.
> *Electronic ignition, with hotter coil and wider gap plugs.
> *Install vacuum gage.
> *Lighter rims
> Ideas?
> Lyle
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> , wrote:
> > Blake;
> > I found that aluminum rims gave me a better chance of obtaining 40 + MPG. Then old habits seem to keep me in the 35 to 38 MPG range anyway.
> Bill
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ]On Behalf Of blake neilson
> > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:58 AM
> > To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG possible?
> > I purchased mine new, and around town, normal driving it got 38 MPG. I made a loop around > I 635/I 35/ I 30 in Dallas at the then posted speed limit of 55 mph and used exactly one gallon to go 51 miles.
> > 100 mpg at 35 MPH on a level track doesn't seem too far fetched to me.
> > BN
> > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Steven Michelsen wrote:
> > From: Steven Michelsen
> > Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG possible?
> > To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 1:21 PM
> > Pretty sure it was a 600. 35mph in 4th gear is just a bit over idling.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mega
> > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 09,
> 2010 3:08 PM
> > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG possible?
> > Are you sure it was a 600 and not a 360? 100mpg seems high for a 600, even at a low speed of 35mph.
> > --- In anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com, Steven Michelsen wrote:
> > > I have a vague recollection of reading about a test done in the '70s with a Honda 600 on a flat track, going a steady 35mph, and getting 100 mpg. Can anyone substantiate this? I cannot find the reference.
> > > Steve
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Mega
> > > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:40 PM
> > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50 MPG possible?
> > > Of course it's possible. I'm really good at calculating mileage on a > road trip, and I got a little over 50mpg when I drove my newly acquired Z600 from Texas to Missouri. It's especially easy to keep track of your mileage when your gas tank is so small.
> > > Low speed is key. Also driving characteristics make a big difference to. I let it slow down to about 30 or 35 while going up hills, and rarely go over 50. In fact, I usually keep the speed around 40 - 45. I know my car will go faster than that, but I prefer longevity and high mileage over getting there quicker.
> > > I'm studying to be a high school Physics instructor one day. I can easily show you how the amount of energy of a moving object increases with the square of the velocity.
> > > (Kinetic Energy = Mass times Velocity Squared)
> > > I'm curious: What kind of mileage do most people expect from a honda 600?? And how fast do you usually drive it?
> > > Here's a copy from
> wikipedia about the Honda 360:
> > > ""As with all cars in the Kei class, the Z360's specifications were tightly governed. The Z360 features an air-cooled, 354-cc, 2-cylinder engine with a 4- or 5-speed transmission driving the front wheels. The Z600 model's 598-cc engine was rated at 36 hp (26 kW). The 354-cc version was available in Australia. One car magazine recording 136 mpg-imp (2.08 L/100 km; 113 mpg-US) when they didn't exceed 30 mph (48 km/h),[1] which came at almost the perfect time with a gasoline shortage looming.""
> > > 113mpg??!! That would be awesome! If only we could convince the government to lower the minimum speed requirement on most United States Interstate Highways from 40mph to about 25mph. Then I could drive from Los Angeles to New York City on about 75 dollars in a Honda 360. Although it would literally take me about 9 - 10 days to get there. ha ha ha.
> > > --- In
> anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com, "lyletrudell" wrote:
> > > > Is 50mpg possible from a well tuned 600?
> > > > Constant 40-50mph, with a vacuum gauge, flat ground.
> > > > ?
> > > > Lyle
> > > > Megamike wrote:
> > > > "55 miles per gallon. That's my highway mileage goal. I know the car can get > > > > about 52mpg, and I'm hoping a rebuilt engine and carb will help that even more.
> > > > Of course I keep the speed between 40 and 45 miles per hour in order to get > > > > that, but I'm the kind of guy that likes to stop, smell roses, take naps, cruise > > > > through scenic routes, and basically take my sweet time."

mterrens · Post by **mterrens** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:16 pm

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TWS, I reckon most people here have seen stuff like this before. If you are prepared to tell the group how you modified a Honda 600 to generate and use HHO, and spell out your results, we would love to hear it.
Steve

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> T W S
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:53
> PM
> Subject:
> Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: 50
> MPG possible?
> when You've tried to get all the oomph out of that engine
> that You can possibly muster . . . . . just ad water . . . .
> water4gas.org