My 72 Z600 drives again, but it isn't getting much of a stiff pedal for the brakes. I bled them with the emergency break on, that is all I can think of that accounts for mushy pedal. All brakes rebuilt and no loss of brake fluid.
Also, having a hard time with trunk lock, not very secure and all adjustments have failed to keep it tightly shut. Any trick to this? Plastic covered locking piece is not all complete, as plastic has worn off tips of inner metal part.
Thanks in advance for all of your time!
Kevin Gailey
Clan Gunn
Aut Pax Aut Bellum!
Back on the road but not perfect
Re: Back on the road but not perfect
Hi Kevin;
Good trouble shooting, but there may be another area that is causing you fluid loss. The booster; if the seal is bad, then fluid can be drawn back into the vacuum reservoir. Or if you are bleeding there could be some fluid loss in the front and not the back. A possible check is to remove the vacuum hose from the carb manifold. Plug up the opening, then pump the brakes several times to remove any residual vacuum and see if the peddle gets harder.
Another check is to see if the booster is functioning, reattach the vacuum hose and hold the peddle down and start the car. There should be movement of the peddle causing it to move toward the firewall. If the peddle goes down then the booster is operating, if not or you start having a spongy peddle again, well you get the idea. And now is the time for the second beer.
Bill
Good trouble shooting, but there may be another area that is causing you fluid loss. The booster; if the seal is bad, then fluid can be drawn back into the vacuum reservoir. Or if you are bleeding there could be some fluid loss in the front and not the back. A possible check is to remove the vacuum hose from the carb manifold. Plug up the opening, then pump the brakes several times to remove any residual vacuum and see if the peddle gets harder.
Another check is to see if the booster is functioning, reattach the vacuum hose and hold the peddle down and start the car. There should be movement of the peddle causing it to move toward the firewall. If the peddle goes down then the booster is operating, if not or you start having a spongy peddle again, well you get the idea. And now is the time for the second beer.
Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of
> kevin.gailey
> Sent:
> Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:16 AM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] Back
> on the road but not perfect
> My 72 Z600 drives again, but it isn't getting much of a stiff pedal for the > brakes. I bled them with the emergency break on, that is all I can think of > that accounts for mushy pedal. All brakes rebuilt and no loss of brake fluid.
> Also, having a hard time with trunk lock, not very secure and all > adjustments have failed to keep it tightly shut. Any trick to this? Plastic > covered locking piece is not all complete, as plastic has worn off tips of > inner metal part.
> Thanks in advance for all of your time!
> Kevin
> Gailey
> Clan Gunn
> Aut Pax Aut Bellum!
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Kevin Gailey
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Re: Back on the road but not perfect
Thanks Bill, I will try that fix. Very surprising how well my car moved. Just checking the brakes I got the thing into third half way down the block and was doing forty. Even for 36hp these things aren't slouches at all.
Finished upholstery and some new tires, now exhaust plus body work and paint!
Thanks to everyone for being so helpful, special thanks to Miles and Bill!
Kevin Gailey
Finished upholstery and some new tires, now exhaust plus body work and paint!
Thanks to everyone for being so helpful, special thanks to Miles and Bill!
Kevin Gailey
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blake neilson
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- Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:32 am
Re: Back on the road but not perfect
Hi Kevin,
While I love your enthusiasm don't get carried away. 600's are in no way fast. I have always been amused by the test specs for acceleration. The 0-60 and 1/4 mile results are the same, around 20+ seconds or so. I have never read a road test of a slower car.
The original Fiat 500 might be slower but it was before my time. Or maybe a Goggomobil or Panhard or 2CV or something as obscure as those might be slower but again I wasn't reading road tests that long ago.
But they are still a lot of fun to drive and as Porsche proved in the 50's if you have superior handling, then you can conserve your speed around corners making the power less important.
Blake.
While I love your enthusiasm don't get carried away. 600's are in no way fast. I have always been amused by the test specs for acceleration. The 0-60 and 1/4 mile results are the same, around 20+ seconds or so. I have never read a road test of a slower car.
The original Fiat 500 might be slower but it was before my time. Or maybe a Goggomobil or Panhard or 2CV or something as obscure as those might be slower but again I wasn't reading road tests that long ago.
But they are still a lot of fun to drive and as Porsche proved in the 50's if you have superior handling, then you can conserve your speed around corners making the power less important.
Blake.
--- On
Fri, 6/18/10, Kevin Gailey
wrote:
> From: Kevin Gailey
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect > To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 2:17 PM
> Thanks Bill, I will try that fix. Very surprising how well my car moved. Just checking the brakes I got the thing into third half way down the block and was doing forty. Even for 36hp these things aren't slouches at all.
> Finished upholstery and some new tires, now exhaust plus body work and paint!
> Thanks to everyone for being so helpful, special thanks to Miles and Bill!
> Kevin Gailey
> From:
> "billmyong@earthlin k.net"
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent:
> Thu, June 17, 2010 1:10:46 PM
> Subject:
> RE: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
> Hi
> Kevin;
> Good trouble shooting, but there may be another area that
> is causing you fluid loss. The booster; if the seal is bad, then fluid can > be drawn back into the vacuum reservoir. Or if you are bleeding there > could be some fluid loss in the front and not the back. A possible > check is to remove the vacuum hose from the carb manifold. Plug up the > opening, then pump the brakes several times to remove any residual vacuum and > see if the peddle gets harder.
> Another check is to see if the booster is functioning, reattach the > vacuum hose and hold the peddle down and start the car. There should be > movement of the peddle causing it to move toward the firewall. If the > peddle goes down then the booster is operating, if not or you start having a > spongy peddle again, well you get the idea. And now is the time for > the second beer.
> Bill
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:anzhonda600 owners@yahoogrou
> > ps.com
> > ]
> > On Behalf Of
> > kevin.gailey
> > Sent:
> > Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:16 AM
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Subject:
> > [anzhonda600owners] Back
> > on the road but not perfect
> > My 72 Z600 drives again, but it isn't getting much of a stiff pedal for the > > brakes. I bled them with the emergency break on, that is all I can think of > > that accounts for mushy pedal. All brakes rebuilt and no loss of brake fluid.
> > Also, having a hard time with trunk lock, not very secure and all > > adjustments have failed to keep it tightly shut. Any trick to this? Plastic > > covered locking piece is not all complete, as plastic has worn off tips of > > inner metal part.
> > Thanks in advance for all of your time!
> > Kevin
> > Gailey
> > Clan Gunn
> > Aut Pax Aut Bellum!
Re: Back on the road but not perfect
I have owned many Honda 600s in the past, my current one is being turbo'd. Can't wait to see how that works out. I will say too that I always have found the Honda 600 though not any powerhouse by any means scooted along pretty darn good as long as you kept your foot in it. I am a classic car collector and have owned 100s of other kinds of cars,but will say that the Honda 600 is just a blast to drive compared to most other cars. And as far as the slowest car I have ever driven, back in the 80s,when I used to work for VW,they came out with the Diesel Vanagon, and I believe the didn't give a 0 to 60 spec because it wouldn't go that fast.We were told top speed was 53 mph.I do believe they would actually do 60mph though. I did drive one of my customers 83 Vanagon Diesel camper just last month and will say you have to experience how slow one is to actually believe it. But the Honda 600,its a blast.
From:
blake neilson To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Sat, June 19, 2010 10:16:51 AM Subject:
Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
Hi Kevin, While I love your enthusiasm don't get carried away. 600's are in no way fast. I have always been amused by the test specs for acceleration. The 0-60 and 1/4 mile results are the same, around 20+ seconds or so. I have never read a road test of a slower car.
The original Fiat 500 might be slower but it was before my time. Or maybe a Goggomobil or Panhard or 2CV or something as obscure as those might be slower but again I wasn't reading road tests that long ago.
But they are still a lot of fun to drive and as Porsche proved in the 50's if you have superior handling, then you can conserve your speed around corners making the power less important.
Blake.
From:
blake neilson To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Sat, June 19, 2010 10:16:51 AM Subject:
Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
Hi Kevin, While I love your enthusiasm don't get carried away. 600's are in no way fast. I have always been amused by the test specs for acceleration. The 0-60 and 1/4 mile results are the same, around 20+ seconds or so. I have never read a road test of a slower car.
The original Fiat 500 might be slower but it was before my time. Or maybe a Goggomobil or Panhard or 2CV or something as obscure as those might be slower but again I wasn't reading road tests that long ago.
But they are still a lot of fun to drive and as Porsche proved in the 50's if you have superior handling, then you can conserve your speed around corners making the power less important.
Blake.
--- On
Fri, 6/18/10, Kevin Gailey
From: Kevin Gailey
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 2:17 PM
> Thanks Bill, I will try that fix. Very surprising how well my car moved. Just checking the brakes I got the thing into third half way down the block and was doing forty. Even for 36hp these things aren't slouches at all.
> Finished upholstery and some new tires, now exhaust plus body work and paint!
> Thanks to everyone for being so helpful, special thanks to Miles and Bill!
> Kevin Gailey
> From:
> "billmyong@earthlin
> k.net
> "
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent:
> Thu, June 17, 2010 1:10:46 PM
> Subject:
> RE: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
> Hi
> Kevin;
> Good trouble shooting, but there may be another area that
> is causing you fluid loss. The booster; if the seal is bad, then fluid can > be drawn back into the vacuum reservoir. Or if you are bleeding there > could be some fluid loss in the front and not the back. A possible > check is to remove the vacuum hose from the carb manifold. Plug up the > opening, then pump the brakes several times to remove any residual vacuum and > see if the peddle gets harder.
> Another check is to see if the booster is functioning, reattach the > vacuum hose and hold the peddle down and start the car. There should be > movement of the peddle causing it to move toward the firewall. If the > peddle goes down then the booster is operating, if not or you start having a > spongy peddle again, well you get the idea. And now is the time for > the second beer.
> Bill
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:anzhonda600 owners@yahoogrou
> > ps.com
> > ]
> > On Behalf Of
> > kevin.gailey
> > Sent:
> > Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:16 AM
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Subject:
> > [anzhonda600owners] Back
> > on the road but not perfect
> > My 72 Z600 drives again, but it isn't getting much of a stiff pedal for the > > brakes. I bled them with the emergency break on, that is all I can think of > > that accounts for mushy pedal. All brakes rebuilt and no loss of brake fluid.
> > Also, having a hard time with trunk lock, not very secure and all > > adjustments have failed to keep it tightly shut. Any trick to this? Plastic > > covered locking piece is not all complete, as plastic has worn off tips of > > inner metal part.
> > Thanks in advance for all of your time!
> > Kevin
> > Gailey
> > Clan Gunn
> > Aut Pax Aut Bellum!
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woodwizard
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- Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:08 am
Re: Back on the road but not perfect
22 to 22.59 seconds in the quarter mile - per Honda and Road&Track specsand tests.
.....though the 45hp version can crank it out in about 19 seconds!
And here's what they put out some 38 and 39 years later.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enjg1ULW5FY
Enjoy, I sure the heck did!
.....though the 45hp version can crank it out in about 19 seconds!
And here's what they put out some 38 and 39 years later.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enjg1ULW5FY
Enjoy, I sure the heck did!
--- On
Sat, 6/19/10, blake neilson
wrote:
> From: blake neilson
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect > To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 11:16 AM
> Hi Kevin,
> While I love your enthusiasm don't get carried away. 600's are in no way fast. I have always been amused by the test specs for acceleration. The 0-60 and 1/4 mile results are the same, around 20+ seconds or so. I have never read a road test of a slower car.
> The original Fiat 500 might be slower but it was before my time. Or maybe a Goggomobil or Panhard or 2CV or something as obscure as those might be slower but again I wasn't reading road tests that long ago.
> But they are still a lot of fun to drive and as Porsche proved in the 50's if you have superior handling, then you can conserve your speed around corners making the power less important.
> Blake.
> --- On
> Fri, 6/18/10, Kevin Gailey
>
> wrote:
> > From: Kevin Gailey
> > Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect > > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com > > Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 2:17 PM
> > Thanks Bill, I will try that fix. Very surprising how well my car moved. Just checking the brakes I got the thing into third half way down the block and was doing forty. Even for 36hp these things aren't slouches at all.
> > Finished upholstery and some new tires, now exhaust plus body work and paint!
> > Thanks to everyone for being so helpful, special thanks to Miles and Bill!
> > Kevin Gailey
> > From:
> > "billmyong@earthlin k.net"
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent:
> > Thu, June 17, 2010 1:10:46 PM
> > Subject:
> > RE: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
> > Hi Kevin;
> > Good trouble shooting, but there may be another area that is causing you fluid loss. The booster; if the seal is bad, then fluid can be drawn back into the vacuum reservoir. Or if you are bleeding there could be some fluid loss in the front and not the back. A possible check is to remove the vacuum hose from the carb manifold. Plug up the opening, then pump the brakes several times to remove any residual vacuum and see if the peddle gets harder.
> > Another check is to see if the booster is functioning, reattach the vacuum hose and hold the peddle down and start the car. There should be movement of the peddle causing it to move toward the firewall. If the peddle goes down then the booster is operating, if not or you start having a spongy peddle again, well you get the idea. And now is the time for the second beer.
> > Bill
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:anzhonda600 owners@yahoogrou > > > ps.com > > > ] > > > On Behalf Of > > > kevin.gailey > > > Sent:
> > > Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:16 AM
> > > To:
> > > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject:
> > > [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
> > > My 72 Z600 drives again, but it isn't getting much of a stiff pedal for the brakes. I bled them with the emergency break on, that is all I can think of that accounts for mushy pedal. All brakes rebuilt and no loss of brake fluid.
> > > Also, having a hard time with trunk lock, not very secure and all adjustments have failed to keep it tightly shut. Any trick to this? Plastic covered locking piece is not all complete, as plastic has worn off tips of inner metal part.
> > > Thanks in advance for all of your time!
> > > Kevin Gailey
> > > Clan Gunn
> > > Aut Pax Aut Bellum!
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woodwizard
- Posts: 0
- Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:08 am
Re: Back on the road but not perfect
Oops...... this is the video I was refering to!
....not that we didn't have a blast in the other one.....
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=o-6L4DDV- 68
....not that we didn't have a blast in the other one.....
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=o-6L4DDV- 68
--- On
Sat, 6/19/10, blake neilson
wrote:
> From: blake neilson
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect > To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 11:16 AM
> Hi Kevin,
> While I love your enthusiasm don't get carried away. 600's are in no way fast. I have always been amused by the test specs for acceleration. The 0-60 and 1/4 mile results are the same, around 20+ seconds or so. I have never read a road test of a slower car.
> The original Fiat 500 might be slower but it was before my time. Or maybe a Goggomobil or Panhard or 2CV or something as obscure as those might be slower but again I wasn't reading road tests that long ago.
> But they are still a lot of fun to drive and as Porsche proved in the 50's if you have superior handling, then you can conserve your speed around corners making the power less important.
> Blake.
> --- On
> Fri, 6/18/10, Kevin Gailey
>
> wrote:
> > From: Kevin Gailey
> > Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect > > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com > > Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 2:17 PM
> > Thanks Bill, I will try that fix. Very surprising how well my car moved. Just checking the brakes I got the thing into third half way down the block and was doing forty. Even for 36hp these things aren't slouches at all.
> > Finished upholstery and some new tires, now exhaust plus body work and paint!
> > Thanks to everyone for being so helpful, special thanks to Miles and Bill!
> > Kevin Gailey
> > From:
> > "billmyong@earthlin k.net"
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent:
> > Thu, June 17, 2010 1:10:46 PM
> > Subject:
> > RE: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
> > Hi Kevin;
> > Good trouble shooting, but there may be another area that is causing you fluid loss. The booster; if the seal is bad, then fluid can be drawn back into the vacuum reservoir. Or if you are bleeding there could be some fluid loss in the front and not the back. A possible check is to remove the vacuum hose from the carb manifold. Plug up the opening, then pump the brakes several times to remove any residual vacuum and see if the peddle gets harder.
> > Another check is to see if the booster is functioning, reattach the vacuum hose and hold the peddle down and start the car. There should be movement of the peddle causing it to move toward the firewall. If the peddle goes down then the booster is operating, if not or you start having a spongy peddle again, well you get the idea. And now is the time for the second beer.
> > Bill
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:anzhonda600 owners@yahoogrou > > > ps.com > > > ] > > > On Behalf Of > > > kevin.gailey > > > Sent:
> > > Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:16 AM
> > > To:
> > > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject:
> > > [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
> > > My 72 Z600 drives again, but it isn't getting much of a stiff pedal for the brakes. I bled them with the emergency break on, that is all I can think of that accounts for mushy pedal. All brakes rebuilt and no loss of brake fluid.
> > > Also, having a hard time with trunk lock, not very secure and all adjustments have failed to keep it tightly shut. Any trick to this? Plastic covered locking piece is not all complete, as plastic has worn off tips of inner metal part.
> > > Thanks in advance for all of your time!
> > > Kevin Gailey
> > > Clan Gunn
> > > Aut Pax Aut Bellum!
-
Kevin Gailey
- Posts: 44
- Joined: Sun May 10, 2009 12:17 pm
Re: Back on the road but not perfect
Thanks for the comments all, I just meant that the acceleration didn't feel anemic. These cars are definitely slow, but they have that special thing that many old cars have, that is the sense of speed, but not actual speed. I have worked on and driven BMW 2002's for the past ten years. At 100 hp they aren't fast but boy they feel like it. These cars are just plain fun to drive. My only issue now is insurance, I have AAA and they want to charge me more because it is a third car with only two drivers on the policy. I an 42 without any accidents or points and they want 500.00 a year for liability only.
Kevin Gailey From:
WoodWizard 33 To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Sun, June 20, 2010 5:33:24 AM Subject:
Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
Oops...... this is the video I was refering to!
....not that we didn't have a blast in the other one.....
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=o-6L4DDV- 68
Kevin Gailey From:
WoodWizard 33 To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Sun, June 20, 2010 5:33:24 AM Subject:
Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
Oops...... this is the video I was refering to!
....not that we didn't have a blast in the other one.....
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=o-6L4DDV- 68
--- On
Sat, 6/19/10, blake neilson
From: blake neilson
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 11:16 AM
> Hi Kevin,
> While I love your enthusiasm don't get carried away. 600's are in no way fast. I have always been amused by the test specs for acceleration. The 0-60 and 1/4 mile results are the same, around 20+ seconds or so. I have never read a road test of a slower car.
> The original Fiat 500 might be slower but it was before my time. Or maybe a Goggomobil or Panhard or 2CV or something as obscure as those might be slower but again I wasn't reading road tests that long ago.
> But they are still a lot of fun to drive and as Porsche proved in the 50's if you have superior handling, then you can conserve your speed around corners making the power less important.
> Blake.
> --- On
> Fri, 6/18/10, Kevin Gailey
>
> wrote:
> > From: Kevin Gailey
> > Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect > > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com > > Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 2:17 PM
> > Thanks Bill, I will try that fix. Very surprising how well my car moved. Just checking the brakes I got the thing into third half way down the block and was doing forty. Even for 36hp these things aren't slouches at all.
> > Finished upholstery and some new tires, now exhaust plus body work and paint!
> > Thanks to everyone for being so helpful, special thanks to Miles and Bill!
> > Kevin Gailey
> > From:
> > "billmyong@earthlin
> > k.net
> > "
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent:
> > Thu, June 17, 2010 1:10:46 PM
> > Subject:
> > RE: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
> > Hi Kevin;
> > Good trouble shooting, but there may be another area that is causing you fluid loss. The booster; if the seal is bad, then fluid can be drawn back into the vacuum reservoir. Or if you are bleeding there could be some fluid loss in the front and not the back. A possible check is to remove the vacuum hose from the carb manifold. Plug up the opening, then pump the brakes several times to remove any residual vacuum and see if the peddle gets harder.
> > Another check is to see if the booster is functioning, reattach the vacuum hose and hold the peddle down and start the car. There should be movement of the peddle causing it to move toward the firewall. If the peddle goes down then the booster is operating, if not or you start having a spongy peddle again, well you get the idea. And now is the time for the second beer.
> > Bill
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:anzhonda600 owners@yahoogrou > > > ps.com > > > ] > > > On Behalf Of > > > kevin.gailey > > > Sent:
> > > Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:16 AM
> > > To:
> > > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject:
> > > [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
> > > My 72 Z600 drives again, but it isn't getting much of a stiff pedal for the brakes. I bled them with the emergency break on, that is all I can think of that accounts for mushy pedal. All brakes rebuilt and no loss of brake fluid.
> > > Also, having a hard time with trunk lock, not very secure and all adjustments have failed to keep it tightly shut. Any trick to this? Plastic covered locking piece is not all complete, as plastic has worn off tips of inner metal part.
> > > Thanks in advance for all of your time!
> > > Kevin Gailey
> > > Clan Gunn
> > > Aut Pax Aut Bellum!
Re: Back on the road but not perfect
For insurance I use Hagerty Classic Insurance. They charge about 1% on the agreed value of the car, and that's for full coverage.It cost me only $270 a year to insure my Vette, Opel Gt and VW Bus .
From:
Kevin Gailey To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Sun, June 20, 2010 10:45:02 PM Subject:
Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
Thanks for the comments all, I just meant that the acceleration didn't feel anemic. These cars are definitely slow, but they have that special thing that many old cars have, that is the sense of speed, but not actual speed. I have worked on and driven BMW 2002's for the past ten years. At 100 hp they aren't fast but boy they feel like it. These cars are just plain fun to drive. My only issue now is insurance, I have AAA and they want to charge me more because it is a third car with only two drivers on the policy. I an 42 without any accidents or points and they want 500.00 a year for liability only.
Kevin Gailey From:
WoodWizard 33 From: blake neilson
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 11:16 AM
> Hi Kevin,
> While I love your enthusiasm don't get carried away. 600's are in no way fast. I have always been amused by the test specs for acceleration. The 0-60 and 1/4 mile results are the same, around 20+ seconds or so. I have never read a road test of a slower car.
> The original Fiat 500 might be slower but it was before my time. Or maybe a Goggomobil or Panhard or 2CV or something as obscure as those might be slower but again I wasn't reading road tests that long ago.
> But they are still a lot of fun to drive and as Porsche proved in the 50's if you have superior handling, then you can conserve your speed around corners making the power less important.
> Blake.
> --- On
> Fri, 6/18/10, Kevin Gailey
>
> wrote:
> > From: Kevin Gailey
> > Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect > > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com > > Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 2:17 PM
> > Thanks Bill, I will try that fix. Very surprising how well my car moved. Just checking the brakes I got the thing into third half way down the block and was doing forty. Even for 36hp these things aren't slouches at all.
> > Finished upholstery and some new tires, now exhaust plus body work and paint!
> > Thanks to everyone for being so helpful, special thanks to Miles and Bill!
> > Kevin Gailey
> > From:
> > "billmyong@earthlin
> > k.net
> > "
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent:
> > Thu, June 17, 2010 1:10:46 PM
> > Subject:
> > RE: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
> > Hi Kevin;
> > Good trouble shooting, but there may be another area that is causing you fluid loss. The booster; if the seal is bad, then fluid can be drawn back into the vacuum reservoir. Or if you are bleeding there could be some fluid loss in the front and not the back. A possible check is to remove the vacuum hose from the carb manifold. Plug up the opening, then pump the brakes several times to remove any residual vacuum and see if the peddle gets harder.
> > Another check is to see if the booster is functioning, reattach the vacuum hose and hold the peddle down and start the car. There should be movement of the peddle causing it to move toward the firewall. If the peddle goes down then the booster is operating, if not or you start having a spongy peddle again, well you get the idea. And now is the time for the second beer.
> > Bill
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:anzhonda600 owners@yahoogrou > > > ps.com > > > ] > > > On Behalf Of > > > kevin.gailey > > > Sent:
> > > Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:16 AM
> > > To:
> > > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject:
> > > [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
> > > My 72 Z600 drives again, but it isn't getting much of a stiff pedal for the brakes. I bled them with the emergency break on, that is all I can think of that accounts for mushy pedal. All brakes rebuilt and no loss of brake fluid.
> > > Also, having a hard time with trunk lock, not very secure and all adjustments have failed to keep it tightly shut. Any trick to this? Plastic covered locking piece is not all complete, as plastic has worn off tips of inner metal part.
> > > Thanks in advance for all of your time!
> > > Kevin Gailey
> > > Clan Gunn
> > > Aut Pax Aut Bellum!
[/quote]
From:
Kevin Gailey To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Sun, June 20, 2010 10:45:02 PM Subject:
Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
Thanks for the comments all, I just meant that the acceleration didn't feel anemic. These cars are definitely slow, but they have that special thing that many old cars have, that is the sense of speed, but not actual speed. I have worked on and driven BMW 2002's for the past ten years. At 100 hp they aren't fast but boy they feel like it. These cars are just plain fun to drive. My only issue now is insurance, I have AAA and they want to charge me more because it is a third car with only two drivers on the policy. I an 42 without any accidents or points and they want 500.00 a year for liability only.
Kevin Gailey From:
WoodWizard 33 From: blake neilson
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 11:16 AM
> Hi Kevin,
> While I love your enthusiasm don't get carried away. 600's are in no way fast. I have always been amused by the test specs for acceleration. The 0-60 and 1/4 mile results are the same, around 20+ seconds or so. I have never read a road test of a slower car.
> The original Fiat 500 might be slower but it was before my time. Or maybe a Goggomobil or Panhard or 2CV or something as obscure as those might be slower but again I wasn't reading road tests that long ago.
> But they are still a lot of fun to drive and as Porsche proved in the 50's if you have superior handling, then you can conserve your speed around corners making the power less important.
> Blake.
> --- On
> Fri, 6/18/10, Kevin Gailey
>
> wrote:
> > From: Kevin Gailey
> > Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect > > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com > > Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 2:17 PM
> > Thanks Bill, I will try that fix. Very surprising how well my car moved. Just checking the brakes I got the thing into third half way down the block and was doing forty. Even for 36hp these things aren't slouches at all.
> > Finished upholstery and some new tires, now exhaust plus body work and paint!
> > Thanks to everyone for being so helpful, special thanks to Miles and Bill!
> > Kevin Gailey
> > From:
> > "billmyong@earthlin
> > k.net
> > "
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent:
> > Thu, June 17, 2010 1:10:46 PM
> > Subject:
> > RE: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
> > Hi Kevin;
> > Good trouble shooting, but there may be another area that is causing you fluid loss. The booster; if the seal is bad, then fluid can be drawn back into the vacuum reservoir. Or if you are bleeding there could be some fluid loss in the front and not the back. A possible check is to remove the vacuum hose from the carb manifold. Plug up the opening, then pump the brakes several times to remove any residual vacuum and see if the peddle gets harder.
> > Another check is to see if the booster is functioning, reattach the vacuum hose and hold the peddle down and start the car. There should be movement of the peddle causing it to move toward the firewall. If the peddle goes down then the booster is operating, if not or you start having a spongy peddle again, well you get the idea. And now is the time for the second beer.
> > Bill
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:anzhonda600 owners@yahoogrou > > > ps.com > > > ] > > > On Behalf Of > > > kevin.gailey > > > Sent:
> > > Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:16 AM
> > > To:
> > > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject:
> > > [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
> > > My 72 Z600 drives again, but it isn't getting much of a stiff pedal for the brakes. I bled them with the emergency break on, that is all I can think of that accounts for mushy pedal. All brakes rebuilt and no loss of brake fluid.
> > > Also, having a hard time with trunk lock, not very secure and all adjustments have failed to keep it tightly shut. Any trick to this? Plastic covered locking piece is not all complete, as plastic has worn off tips of inner metal part.
> > > Thanks in advance for all of your time!
> > > Kevin Gailey
> > > Clan Gunn
> > > Aut Pax Aut Bellum!
[/quote]
Re: Back on the road but not perfect
I go through American Collectors Ins and I pay $80 a year for my 1972 Coupe. Im 35 and married to a woman who loves crashing cars and getting speeding tickets. May want to check them out.
Jeremy Sent from my iPhone
Jeremy Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 20, 2010, at 11:45 PM, Kevin Gailey wrote:
Thanks for the comments all, I just meant that the acceleration didn't feel anemic. These cars are definitely slow, but they have that special thing that many old cars have, that is the sense of speed, but not actual speed. I have worked on and driven BMW 2002's for the past ten years. At 100 hp they aren't fast but boy they feel like it. These cars are just plain fun to drive. My only issue now is insurance, I have AAA and they want to charge me more because it is a third car with only two drivers on the policy. I an 42 without any accidents or points and they want 500.00 a year for liability only.
Kevin Gailey
From:
WoodWizard 33 From: blake neilson yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 11:16 AM
> Hi Kevin,
> While I love your enthusiasm don't get carried away. 600's are in no way fast. I have always been amused by the test specs for acceleration. The 0-60 and 1/4 mile results are the same, around 20+ seconds or so. I have never read a road test of a slower car.
> The original Fiat 500 might be slower but it was before my time. Or maybe a Goggomobil or Panhard or 2CV or something as obscure as those might be slower but again I wasn't reading road tests that long ago.
> But they are still a lot of fun to drive and as Porsche proved in the 50's if you have superior handling, then you can conserve your speed around corners making the power less important.
> Blake.
> --- On
> Fri, 6/18/10, Kevin Gailey
> yahoo.com
> wrote:
> > From: Kevin Gailey > yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect > > To: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com > > Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 2:17 PM
> > Thanks Bill, I will try that fix. Very surprising how well my car moved. Just checking the brakes I got the thing into third half way down the block and was doing forty. Even for 36hp these things aren't slouches at all.
> > Finished upholstery and some new tires, now exhaust plus body work and paint!
> > Thanks to everyone for being so helpful, special thanks to Miles and Bill!
> > Kevin Gailey
> > From:
> > "billmyong@earthlin
> > k.net
> > "
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent:
> > Thu, June 17, 2010 1:10:46 PM
> > Subject:
> > RE: [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
> > Hi Kevin;
> > Good trouble shooting, but there may be another area that is causing you fluid loss. The booster; if the seal is bad, then fluid can be drawn back into the vacuum reservoir. Or if you are bleeding there could be some fluid loss in the front and not the back. A possible check is to remove the vacuum hose from the carb manifold. Plug up the opening, then pump the brakes several times to remove any residual vacuum and see if the peddle gets harder.
> > Another check is to see if the booster is functioning, reattach the vacuum hose and hold the peddle down and start the car. There should be movement of the peddle causing it to move toward the firewall. If the peddle goes down then the booster is operating, if not or you start having a spongy peddle again, well you get the idea. And now is the time for the second beer.
> > Bill
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:anzhonda600 owners@yahoogrou > > > ps.com > > > ] > > > On Behalf Of > > > kevin.gailey > > > Sent:
> > > Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:16 AM
> > > To:
> > > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject:
> > > [anzhonda600owners] Back on the road but not perfect
> > > My 72 Z600 drives again, but it isn't getting much of a stiff pedal for the brakes. I bled them with the emergency break on, that is all I can think of that accounts for mushy pedal. All brakes rebuilt and no loss of brake fluid.
> > > Also, having a hard time with trunk lock, not very secure and all adjustments have failed to keep it tightly shut. Any trick to this? Plastic covered locking piece is not all complete, as plastic has worn off tips of inner metal part.
> > > Thanks in advance for all of your time!
> > > Kevin Gailey
> > > Clan Gunn
> > > Aut Pax Aut Bellum!