one lockwasher away from disaster

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mterrens
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one lockwasher away from disaster

Post by mterrens »

Did you know that it is possible for your steering shaft to become detached from the articulated part below it, all on it's own?  When this occurs one is left with a free spinning steering wheel.  See the picture that shows the crucial part...
http://www.honda600coupe.com/photos/cru ... g_part.gif
I've had my Coupe for 8 years and never needed to detach the steering shaft.  But, some DPO did, and decided against replacing the lock washer.  OMG BIG MISTAKE.
Mercifully, I discovered my little malfunction as I was preparing to drive the car, not ACTUALLY driving it.
I hereby recommend that before you drive your 600 Coupe or Sedan again, take a peek under the dash and confirm that this bolt is tight, and the lock washer is in place.  The bolt doesn't have to be "loose", just not tight enough.
Suddenly surprised to be alive,
Steve
www.honda600coupe.com
Tran Nguyen
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Joined: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:20 pm

Re: one lockwasher away from disaster

Post by Tran Nguyen »

thanks for the tips! I have to check mine.
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com; 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
From: stevenm@...
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 15:33:21 -0500
Subject: [anzhonda600owners] one lockwasher away from disaster
Did you know that it is possible for your steering shaft to become detached from the articulated part below it, all on it's own?  When this occurs one is left with a free spinning steering wheel.  See the picture that shows the crucial part...
http://www.honda600coupe.com/photos/cru ... g_part.gif
I've had my Coupe for 8 years and never needed to detach the steering shaft.  But, some DPO did, and decided against replacing the lock washer.  OMG BIG MISTAKE.
Mercifully, I discovered my little malfunction as I was preparing to drive the car, not ACTUALLY driving it.
I hereby recommend that before you drive your 600 Coupe or Sedan again, take a peek under the dash and confirm that this bolt is tight, and the lock washer is in place.  The bolt doesn't have to be "loose", just not tight enough.
Suddenly surprised to be alive,
Steve
www.honda600coupe.com
brad fenn
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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:09 am

Re: one lockwasher away from disaster

Post by brad fenn »

I have lost steering on a few cars and let me tell you,it's like being on a Rodeo Bull,your at the mercy of momentum and luck. You can jam the brakes,but the car still goes where it wants. I have lost Brakes many times,and at least you can steer around objects and at least have a choice what you hit. Always make sure your steering components are in good shape and secure. You never know what idiot has worked on it in the past and some things just wear out or can come loose.
From:
Steven Michelsen To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com; 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Fri, December 24, 2010 2:33:21 PM Subject:
[anzhonda600owners] one lockwasher away from disaster
Did you know that it is possible for your steering shaft to become detached from the articulated part below it, all on it's own?  When this occurs one is left with a free spinning steering wheel.  See the picture that shows the crucial part...
http://www.honda600coupe.com/photos/cru ... g_part.gif
I've had my Coupe for 8 years and never needed to detach the steering shaft.  But, some DPO did, and decided against replacing the lock washer.  OMG BIG MISTAKE.
Mercifully, I discovered my little malfunction as I was preparing to drive the car, not ACTUALLY driving it.
I hereby recommend that before you drive your 600 Coupe or Sedan again, take a peek under the dash and confirm that this bolt is tight, and the lock washer is in place.  The bolt doesn't have to be "loose", just not tight enough.
Suddenly surprised to be alive,
Steve
www.honda600coupe.com
friend
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Joined: Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:54 pm

Re: one lockwasher away from disaster

Post by friend »

Steven;
You should check further, as the bolt used on your Joint Assembly seems to be wrong.  It should be 8X20 mm with a Hex head.  The unit is made to hold as long as the bolt is threading into the threaded side of the coupling.  The steering wheel shaft has an indentation for the bolt and the teeth on the column shaft keep it from rotating.  As long as the diameter of the bolt is correct the steering wheel shaft should not come off of the Joint Assembly unless the bolt is almost completely removed from the coupling.  So, see if the joint assembly coupling is all the way on, the bolt used is the correct 8mm bolt in place and tight.
I have had cars come in where the column was not on all the way and a bolt/nut was used to clamp it onto the shaft which by passed the indentation on the column.
See page 6-17 in the Coupe Parts manual.
Bill
lyletrudell
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Steering shaft disaster

Post by lyletrudell »

Bill and Steve, just looked at my steering U-joint shaft.
The spline is the same on both ends, but the joints are "NOT" the same!
The bolt only protrudes and locks on the (shorter) top U-joint, like Bill said. But,if the U-joint shaft was flipped over, it would not lock on the steering shaft!
Steven might have his U-joint shaft mounted upside down!?
Not sure if this is possible, because the bolt would hit the spline on the lower joint.
Also if the bolt threads were rusted, worn or damaged the steering shaft could come out. The lock washer is also very important, like Steven said.
Something to check on.
Lyle
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, wrote:
> Steven;
> You should check further, as the bolt used on your Joint Assembly seems to
> be wrong. It should be 8X20 mm with a Hex head. The unit is made to hold
> as long as the bolt is threading into the threaded side of the coupling.
> The steering wheel shaft has an indentation for the bolt and the teeth on
> the column shaft keep it from rotating. As long as the diameter of the bolt
> is correct the steering wheel shaft should not come off of the Joint
> Assembly unless the bolt is almost completely removed from the coupling.
> So, see if the joint assembly coupling is all the way on, the bolt used is
> the correct 8mm bolt in place and tight.
> I have had cars come in where the column was not on all the way and a
> bolt/nut was used to clamp it onto the shaft which by passed the indentation
> on the column.
> See page 6-17 in the Coupe Parts manual.
> Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
]On Behalf Of Steven Michelsen
> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 12:33 PM
> To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
;
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] one lockwasher away from disaster
> Did you know that it is possible for your steering shaft to become detached
> from the articulated part below it, all on it's own? When this occurs one
> is left with a free spinning
> steering wheel. See the picture that shows the crucial part...
http://www.honda600coupe.com/photos/cru ... g_part.gif
> I've had my Coupe for 8 years and never needed to detach the steering shaft.
> But, some DPO did, and decided against replacing the lock washer. OMG BIG
> MISTAKE.
> Mercifully, I discovered my little malfunction as I was preparing to drive
> the car, not ACTUALLY driving it.
> I hereby recommend that before you drive your 600 Coupe or Sedan again, take
> a peek under the dash and confirm that this bolt is tight, and the lock
> washer is in place. The bolt doesn't have to be "loose", just not tight
> enough.
> Suddenly surprised to be alive,
> Steve
> www.honda600coupe.com
friend
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Joined: Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:54 pm

Re: Steering shaft disaster

Post by friend »

Lyle, I don't think it would bolt up as the bolt has to pass through the indentation in the shaft to connect.
Bill
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