Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Honda 600 Facebook Group

[Bill]

Yahoo groups, Facebook, Twitter, and all the other social media programs are all great ways to advance knowledge on any number of products.  But the Yahoo Groups are established, the program allows an amount of quick action against spammers and people trying to turn it into something other than what this group was intended to do.  If Facebook was both a better and simpler way to do it then maybe we should go that way.   But it has a learning curb, it has a different way to secure your information and it is easy to allow people that have a different agenda to get in.
There are ways to secure the site and allow only people you want in but then why move from Yahoo, it's already running and you don't have to log into it to read e-mail from the group.  So I am staying with Yahoo Groups.
Bill

[Shad Turner]

I've been with Facebook before it was popular. I found it was a good way to keep up with my buddies from the Navy. When MySpace died out it was an easy switch for me.
I do love the forums format. There is so much knowledge on them it's ridiculous.  I use multiple groups for fixing my Volvo's. I'll also use you all here as I work on my 71 sedan.
Here is a link to my Facebook album for my 600 project.
https://m.facebook.com/shad.turner.3?v= ... 6&refid=17 Thank you, Shad Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 3, 2013, at 2:21 AM, "Jennifer F. Kidder" wrote:
Yeaaaah!
but  those people are like selling tires & asking about headlights & stuff we now don't have access to.
is there some way to channel those interactions into our email group so our groups can stay combined. so that ,if we can't answer, we can at least know what's going on?
In fact, do you know how to just channel gmail of one gmail 'group' to another, our, yahoogroup? because I have both; If I can get them, I should be able to get them all channeled into our whole yahoogroup, right?
maybe this is all too complicated. I'm even worse with computers than honda600 engines.
-skip
> From:
> Bill billmyong@...
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> ;
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Friday, August 2, 2013 9:17 PM
> Subject:
> RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Honda 600 Facebook Group
> Yahoo groups, Facebook, Twitter, and all the other
> social media programs are all great ways to advance knowledge on any number of > products.  But the Yahoo Groups are established, the program allows an > amount of quick action against spammers and people trying to turn it into > something other than what this group was intended to do.  If > Facebook was both a better and simpler way to do it then maybe we > should go that way.   But it has a learning curb, it has a different > way to secure your information and it is easy to allow people that have a > different agenda to get in.
> There are
> ways to secure the site and allow only people you want
> in but then why move from Yahoo, it's already running and you don't > have to log into it to read e-mail from the group.  So I am staying with > Yahoo Groups.
> Bill
> From:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> [
> mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> ]
> On Behalf Of
> Laurie
> Sent:
> Friday, August 02, 2013 8:18 PM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re:
> Honda 600 Facebook Group
> I
> am also of the
> ol
> der's
> .Having had a brand new z600 in
> 1972.I was 21/22 yrs old.I like it the way it is with our Honda > group.Don't like or use > Facebook.
> Laurie and her
> z600 1972.
> On 8/1/2013 10:25 AM, Charles Gould wrote:
> > I just wanted to submit my 2 cents on this issue.
> > I sincerely believe that this is a generational issue. Those of us who > > are a bit older like the yahoo groups format, and we are accustomed to it. The > > younger members grew up on Facebook and tend to prefer that > > format.
> > Personally I can't stand Facebook either for my social connection or for > > my enthusiast groups for cars and other stuff, but that may be because I don't > > completely understand how to properly navigate it.
> > My preference for the Yahoo Groups are as follows:
> > 1) My own choice of whether to receive automatic updates by individual > > emails of each message or daily digests of all messages of the day, or neither > > with me logging into site whenever I want an update.
> > 2) searchable data and message base so that I can find the old message > >  regarding master cylinders form 2007.
> > 3) I like that the photos, files, attachments and messages are all in a > > separate area, and can be accessed or searched by date, poster or subject > > matter, or even browsed by looking at the thumbnail photos.
> > 4) I love that it is a chronological listing which can be accessed > > easily. I have spent hours trolling Facebook pages for a post that I > > distinctly recall seeing but can't find anymore.
> > 5) I hate that the Facebook photos are often behind the scenes and that > > the photo that is displayed may not be the one in the collection that you are > > looking for.
> > Chas
> > On Aug 1, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Connor McCann wrote:
> > > I agree with you Kris, but I don't think a Facebook group is > > > the way to go.  Yahoo groups are definitely antiquated enough to be in > > > a museum, but I think a traditional forum would be equally as good.
> > > I
> > > originally fell off the face off the earth when I switched from my hotmail > > > address to my gmail address.  In hotmail, I had all yahoo group emails > > > go into separate folders.  For some reason I couldn't figure it out > > > with Gmail so I gave up for years.  Eventually I bit the bullet and > > > just played around until I could make it work.
> > > The current set up is fine for me at least, and works better for > > > checking posts on my phone.  Also, Facebook tends to be weird with > > > information and they're always changing.  Some people are incapable of > > > checking facebook while at work, too, where as Yahoo groups just go to your > > > email or can be checked on the group page.  The only risk for Yahoo > > > groups is that they'll shut it down eventually (which I don't think they > > > will, but it's possible).
> > > I guess I'd just recommend trying to auto-sort your yahoo group emails > > > in your email.  It makes it infinitely easier to follow.
> > > -Connor
> > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:13 AM, infinkc
> > > > > infinkc@...
> > > wrote:
> > > > Miles,
> > > > the Name has been changed now, I had it as the same name before because I > > > > was hoping you would take it over in addition to your page once you saw > > > > how a "group" operated compared to a "page".
> > > >  I had explained
> > > > to you the difference between the page and the groups via Facebook before, > > > > Its pretty much a page is more for a business, where people go to see > > > > whats new "followers".  A group is well just like what this yahoo > > > > "group" is, but just more on a current platform.  Has all the > > > > functionality as this "group" but allows it to be more interactive, and > > > > get away from the older newsgroup type setting. You can ban users and > > > > moderate them as in any group.
> > > > This Yahoo page is great, but in my
> > > > opinion is so antiquated and hard to follow.  Ive been a member for > > > > very long on here and being on so many other facebook goups, i felt it was > > > > needed.
> > > > -Kris
> > > > --- In
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > , "feltonminicycle"
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Why would you name it the exact same as mine? I
> > > > think you should change it and I don't get the difference between a group > > > > and a page. Anyone can join my page and when I was taken over by hookers I > > > > kicked them off and banned them.
> > > > Miles
> > > > > --- In
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > , "infinkc"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/honda600/
> > > > > > Created a facebook group, as it allows an easy way to > > > > upload pictures and ask questions and receive comments.  The current > > > > page is more of a vendor page, where you cannot communicate as a > > > > group.
> > > > > > The group will become closed once it gets
> > > > established.
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > Yahoo!
> > > > Groups Links
> > > > To

[Eric Geiger]

I will gladly use both but yahoo is great for looking up old info and researching old posts.   I see the yahoo group as more of a relaxed photo sharing spot.   I would never use Facebook to start searching for issues with timing or carbs where as I am always going back to the yahoo groups and looking up posts from years back.
They each have a purpose IMO but yahoo is will always come first for trying to solve a problem or get help with a car issue, its just too established whereas Facebook is for playing around and bullshitting
Eric J. Geiger
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On Aug 2, 2013, at 11:17 PM, "Bill" wrote:
Yahoo groups, Facebook, Twitter, and all the other social media programs are all great ways to advance knowledge on any number of products.
But the Yahoo Groups are established, the program allows an amount of quick action against spammers and people trying to turn it into something other than what this group was intended to do.  If Facebook was both a better and simpler way to do it then maybe we should go that way.   But it has a learning curb, it has a different way to secure your information and it is easy to allow people that have a different agenda to get in.
There are
ways to secure the site and allow only people you want in but then why move from Yahoo, it's already running and you don't have to log into it to read e-mail from the group.  So I am staying with Yahoo Groups.
Bill
From:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
[
mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
]
On Behalf Of
Laurie
Sent:
Friday, August 02, 2013 8:18 PM
To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Honda 600 Facebook Group
I
am also of the
ol
der's
.Having had a brand new z600 in
1972.I was 21/22 yrs old.I like it the way it is with our Honda group.Don't like or use
Facebook.
Laurie and her z600 1972.
On 8/1/2013 10:25 AM, Charles Gould wrote:
> I just wanted to submit my 2 cents on this issue.
> I sincerely believe that this is a generational issue. Those of us who are a bit older like the yahoo groups format, and we are accustomed to it. The younger members grew up on Facebook and tend to prefer that format.
> Personally I can't stand Facebook either for my social connection or for my enthusiast groups for cars and other stuff, but that may be because I don't completely understand how to properly navigate it.
> My preference for the Yahoo Groups are as follows:
> 1) My own choice of whether to receive automatic updates by individual emails of each message or daily digests of all messages of the day, or neither with me logging into site whenever I want an update.
> 2) searchable data and message base so that I can find the old message  regarding master cylinders form 2007.
> 3) I like that the photos, files, attachments and messages are all in a separate area, and can be accessed or searched by date, poster or subject matter, or even browsed by looking at the thumbnail photos.
> 4) I love that it is a chronological listing which can be accessed easily. I have spent hours trolling Facebook pages for a post that I distinctly recall seeing but can't find anymore.
> 5) I hate that the Facebook photos are often behind the scenes and that the photo that is displayed may not be the one in the collection that you are looking for.
> Chas
> On Aug 1, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Connor McCann wrote:
> > I agree with you Kris, but I don't think a Facebook group is the way to go.  Yahoo groups are definitely antiquated enough to be in a museum, but I think a traditional forum would be equally as good.
> > I originally fell off the face off the earth when I switched from my hotmail address to my gmail address.  In hotmail, I had all yahoo group emails go into separate folders.  For some reason I couldn't figure it out with Gmail so I gave up for years.  Eventually > > I bit the bullet and just played around until I could make it work.
> > The current set up is fine for me at least, and works better for checking posts on my phone.  Also, Facebook tends to be weird with information and they're always changing.  Some people are incapable of checking facebook while at work, too, where as Yahoo > > groups just go to your email or can be checked on the group page.  The only risk for Yahoo groups is that they'll shut it down eventually (which I don't think they will, but it's possible).
> > I guess I'd just recommend trying to auto-sort your yahoo group emails in your email.  It makes it infinitely easier to follow.
> > -Connor
> > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:13 AM, infinkc
> > > infinkc@...
> > wrote:
> > > Miles, the Name has been changed now, I had it as the same name before because I was hoping you would take it over in addition to your page once you saw how a "group" operated compared to > > > a "page".
> > >  I had explained to you the difference between the page and the groups via Facebook before, Its pretty much a page is more for a business, where people go to see whats new "followers".  A group is well just like what this yahoo "group" is, but just more on > > > a current platform.  Has all the functionality as this "group" but allows it to be more interactive, and get away from the older newsgroup type setting. You can ban users and moderate them as in any group.
> > > This Yahoo page is great, but in my opinion is so antiquated and hard to follow.  Ive been a member for very long on here and being on so many other facebook goups, i felt it was needed.
> > > -Kris
> > > --- In
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > , "feltonminicycle"
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > Why would you name it the exact same as mine? I think you should change it and I don't get the difference between a group and a page. Anyone can join my page and when I was taken over by hookers I kicked them off and banned them.
> > > > Miles
> > > > --- In
> > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > , "infinkc" wrote:
> > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/honda600/
> > > > > Created a facebook group, as it allows an easy way to upload pictures and ask questions and receive comments.  The current page is more of a vendor page, where you cannot communicate as a group.
> > > > > The group will become closed once it gets established.
> > > ------------------------------------

[Eric Geiger]

Sorry I mis-typed that statement.   I meant I see the Facebook page as more of a photo sharing hang out NOT the yahoo page.
Eric J. Geiger
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On Aug 3, 2013, at 6:52 AM, "Eric Geiger" wrote:
I will gladly use both but yahoo is great for looking up old info and researching old posts.   I see the yahoo group as more of a relaxed photo sharing spot.   I would never use Facebook to start searching for issues with timing or carbs where as I am always going back to the yahoo groups and looking up posts from years back.
They each have a purpose IMO but yahoo is will always come first for trying to solve a problem or get help with a car issue, its just too established whereas Facebook is for playing around and bullshitting
Eric J. Geiger
---------------------------------------
PRG Nocturne
XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
egeiger@...
www.prgnocturne.com
On Aug 2, 2013, at 11:17 PM, "Bill" wrote:
> Yahoo groups, Facebook, Twitter, and all the other social media programs are all great ways to advance knowledge on any number of products.
> But the Yahoo Groups are established, the program allows an amount of quick action against spammers and people trying to turn it into something other than what this group was intended to do.  If Facebook was both a better and simpler way to do it then maybe > we should go that way.   But it has a learning curb, it has a different way to secure your information and it is easy to allow people that have a different agenda to get in.
> There are
> ways to secure the site and allow only people you want in but then why move from Yahoo, it's already running and you don't have to log into it to read e-mail from the group.  So I am staying with Yahoo Groups.
> Bill
> From:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> [
> mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> ]
> On Behalf Of
> Laurie
> Sent:
> Friday, August 02, 2013 8:18 PM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Honda 600 Facebook Group
> I
> am also of the
> ol
> der's
> .Having had a brand new z600 in
> 1972.I was 21/22 yrs old.I like it the way it is with our Honda group.Don't like or use
> Facebook.
> Laurie and her z600 1972.
> On 8/1/2013 10:25 AM, Charles Gould wrote:
> > I just wanted to submit my 2 cents on this issue.
> > I sincerely believe that this is a generational issue. Those of us who are a bit older like the yahoo groups format, and we are accustomed to it. The younger members grew up on Facebook and tend to prefer that format.
> > Personally I can't stand Facebook either for my social connection or for my enthusiast groups for cars and other stuff, but that may be because I don't completely understand how to properly navigate it.
> > My preference for the Yahoo Groups are as follows:
> > 1) My own choice of whether to receive automatic updates by individual emails of each message or daily digests of all messages of the day, or neither with me logging into site whenever I want an update.
> > 2) searchable data and message base so that I can find the old message  regarding master cylinders form 2007.
> > 3) I like that the photos, files, attachments and messages are all in a separate area, and can be accessed or searched by date, poster or subject matter, or even browsed by looking at the thumbnail photos.
> > 4) I love that it is a chronological listing which can be accessed easily. I have spent hours trolling Facebook pages for a post that I distinctly recall seeing but can't find anymore.
> > 5) I hate that the Facebook photos are often behind the scenes and that the photo that is displayed may not be the one in the collection that you are looking for.
> > Chas
> > On Aug 1, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Connor McCann wrote:
> > > I agree with you Kris, but I don't think a Facebook group is the way to go.  Yahoo groups are definitely antiquated enough to be in a museum, but I think a traditional forum would be equally as good.
> > > I originally fell off the face off the earth when I switched from my hotmail address to my gmail address.  In hotmail, I had all yahoo group emails go into separate folders.  For some reason I couldn't figure it out with Gmail so I gave up for years.  Eventually > > > I bit the bullet and just played around until I could make it work.
> > > The current set up is fine for me at least, and works better for checking posts on my phone.  Also, Facebook tends to be weird with information and they're always changing.  Some people are incapable of checking facebook while at work, too, where as Yahoo > > > groups just go to your email or can be checked on the group page.  The only risk for Yahoo groups is that they'll shut it down eventually (which I don't think they will, but it's possible).
> > > I guess I'd just recommend trying to auto-sort your yahoo group emails in your email.  It makes it infinitely easier to follow.
> > > -Connor
> > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:13 AM, infinkc
> > > > > infinkc@...
> > > wrote:
> > > > Miles, the Name has been changed now, I had it as the same name before because I was hoping you would take it over in addition to your page once you saw how a "group" operated compared to > > > > a "page".
> > > >  I had explained to you the difference between the page and the groups via Facebook before, Its pretty much a page is more for a business, where people go to see whats new "followers".  A group is well just like what this yahoo "group" is, but just more on > > > > a current platform.  Has all the functionality as this "group" but allows it to be more interactive, and get away from the older newsgroup type setting. You can ban users and moderate them as in any group.
> > > > This Yahoo page is great, but in my opinion is so antiquated and hard to follow.  Ive been a member for very long on here and being on so many other facebook goups, i felt it was needed.
> > > > -Kris
> > > > --- In
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > , "feltonminicycle"
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Why would you name it the exact same as mine? I think you should change it and I don't get the difference between a group and a page. Anyone can join my page and when I was taken over by hookers I kicked them off and banned them.
> > > > > Miles
> > > > > --- In
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > > > , "infinkc" wrote:
> > > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/honda600/
> > > > > > Created a facebook group, as it allows an easy way to upload pictures and ask questions and receive comments.  The current page is more of a vendor page, where you cannot communicate as a group.
> > > > > > The group will become closed once it gets established.
> > > > ------------------------------------