Has anyone thought of converting a 600 to fuel injection?

[Herman]

Since I was the one who mentioned "reinventing the
wheel", let me add that 2nd gen toyota 4 cyl (22re)
came with FI, so it would probably be an easier swap
to go with that hardware; just curious about the
"megasquirt". Matt was the one who wanted to convert
the 600; but then again, you can only do so much with
600 cc.
--- Bill Colford wrote:

> Paul,
> Don't forget that Honda 600's fire both cylinders
> at the same time, but let
> me know how it goes. Where are you going to place
> the injectors?
> Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
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> [mailto:
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]On Behalf Of
> Paul Orlandi
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 2:16 PM
> To:
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> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Has anyone thought of
> converting a 600 to
> fuel injection?
> Do you have a link to "Megasquirt"? The carb on my
> 80
> Toyota Motorhome needs replacing and this might
> prove
> to be interesting.
> Thanx,
> paul
> --- Matt Timion wrote:
> > You're absolutely right about the 2 cyl system.
> > I've been reading about
> > Megasquirt today and it seems that that would be
> the
> > perfect solution for
> > this type of setup. They even have a setup that
> > offers ignition control, so
> > you can kiss those points and condenser good bye
> :)
> > I can probably use the spare throttle body I'll
> have
> > on my 89 Civic once I
> > swap engines next month. This really would be a
> > cool setup.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Orlandi" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 2:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Has anyone thought
> of
> > converting a 600 to
> > fuel injection?
> > >A novel idea, but why reinvent the wheel? HD has
> a
> > > fuel injected version of their engine; perhaps
> you
> > > could start there. Also, I would imagine the
> > Harley
> > > "wannabes" either come with or have injection as
> > an
> > > option. Seems to me it would be easier to start
> > with a
> > > system designed for 2 cyl. rather than 4.
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[Larry]

Thank you Miles...My thoughts exactly!!!
Larry ... rednek55

[jpro8071]

Hi Matt,
sorry about the late reply on this one - been off the list and very
busy for a while.
I converted a '71 Coupe to fuel injection a few years ago. I posted
some pictures in the photo section under "Fuel Injection" - one photo
shows the current configuration with the throttle body out of a Geo
and a single injector. The other photo is the first setup we ran - a
TBI off a '80s Chevy Cavalier, to the left is the loom to give you an
idea of what a project this is. The TBI ran very inefficient - full
throttle was like 10% utilization, so it was hard to meter. The
single injector is nice because you can select the size you want. But
I'm paranoid that I might not have it centered exactly where it should be.
I'm using the Electromotive WinTec3 system. It's a really nice
system, but pretty expensive when you are talking about a car like the
600. I was lucky enough to get a sponsor that gave me a deal on the
system. If I didn't have that help I would have seriously considered
the MegaSquirt system. The Megasquirt takes fewer wires and is much
cheaper. But the WinTec system has finer calibration and many more
features. I plan on running one on any car I race or seriously modify.
Whatever you do, you'll need something where you can tweak the power
curve (and hopefully the ignition curve.) It will be very hard to
adapt something OEM off of another make or model of car. Plus you'll
need to figure out ignition timing/sensors. And a fuel return line, etc..
The nice thing is that the manuals for both the WinTec and Megasquirt
can be found online - so you can read up on the installation and see
if it's something you want to take on.
-Eric

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "Matt Timion" wrote:
> Most of us want to restore these cars, yet at the same time we want
to make them better. I've been thinking about this lately, and I'm
beginning to think it's possible to convert one of these engines to
run on fuel injection, which might add more power as well as better
fuel economy.
> My thinking is that we can do this using the EFI system from the
88-91 Civic DX/LX cars. It's a Dual Point Fuel Injection System, but
in reality it just uses one injector. It has been described as a
"glorified carb" on more than one occassion.
> The only problem I see with this is finding a way to not use the
sensors that come with this system. It comes with water temp sensors,
air intake temperature sensors, and of course the number of wires
specifically for the distributor that will not be used at all.
> In the end it might be more of a headache than it's really worth,
but I do think it would be a cool conversion.
> Any thoughts?