Wheels and tires

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trtlepnther21
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Wheels and tires

Post by trtlepnther21 »

Has anyone tried to use golf cart or ATV wheels and tires on their Honda 600?
There is such a limited choice on tires and wheels out there for stock tires. $90/tire is about the cheapest that I can find tires for.
Has anyone found a larger wheel/low profile tire combination that works well on the 600s? I figure the sooner I move on to a more common tire size the better.
Greg Ralyea
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Re: Wheels and tires

Post by Greg Ralyea »

Golf cart or ATV tires are fine if you don't street drive your honda, as these tires are designated on the sidewall- NHS (non highway service).  I'm sure if we all get together on this one there must be someone who is willing to knock the centers out of the original wheels to weld them back into a different wheel--Now to find someone willing to bear the liability of it.
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[2cylinderhondas] Wheels and tires Has anyone tried to use golf cart or ATV wheels and tires on their Honda 600?
There is such a limited choice on tires and wheels out there for stock tires. $90/tire is about the cheapest that I can find tires for.
Has anyone found a larger wheel/low profile tire combination that works well on the 600s?  I figure the sooner I move on to a more common tire size the better.
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Matt Hew
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Re: Wheels and tires

Post by Matt Hew »

The links below have some nice golf cart wheel/tire combo deals, and some pretty great looking ones as well.  Most have an 8" tire width (Not sure if this will clear the wheel well without customizing) and they have varying wheel sizes.  Some of these tires claim to be highway rated and are able to carry a range of weights (900lb. - 1400lb.).  As long as I don't take the 600 out to Bonneville to reach the 80mph max speed, I think they might serve their purpose as a more affordable and readily accessible tire.  Again, some of the wheels look pretty gnarly.
My other concern is with the curb weight and how a 600 would treat the tires.  Check out the links and let me know what everyone thinks:
http://www.golfcarttirestore.com/20.5.htm
http://www.golfcarttirestore.com/christmas_spcl.htm
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From: dieseldr63@...
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:50:11 -0800
Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Wheels and tires
Golf cart or ATV tires are fine if you don't street drive your honda, as these tires are designated on the sidewall- NHS (non highway service).  I'm sure if we all get together on this one there must be someone who is willing to knock the centers out of the original wheels to weld them back into a different wheel--Now to find someone willing to bear the liability of it.
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[2cylinderhondas] Wheels and tires Has anyone tried to use golf cart or ATV wheels and tires on their Honda 600?
There is such a limited choice on tires and wheels out there for stock tires. $90/tire is about the cheapest that I can find tires for.
Has anyone found a larger wheel/low profile tire combination that works well on the 600s?  I figure the sooner I move on to a more common tire size the better.
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josh bell
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Re: Wheels and tires

Post by josh bell »

many atvs and golf carts weigh more then the 600 and many atvs are more powerful, have a higher top speed and certainly exert a greater load on the wheels during off roading. anybody who says otherwise about the safety of the wheels/tires on the hwy etc. is just being a self important ninny.  I won many SCCA rallycross races with my 600 coupe and have driven it in ways most people couldn't imagine. When i win the championship again i will be using atv wheels and tires. Google- Josh Bell rallycross
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> From: Matt Hew
> Subject: RE: [2cylinderhondas] Wheels and tires
> To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 9,
> 2010, 7:15 PM
> The links below have some nice golf cart wheel/tire combo deals, and some pretty great looking ones as well.  Most have an 8" tire width (Not sure if this will clear the wheel well without customizing) and they have varying wheel sizes.  Some of these tires claim to be highway rated and are able to carry a range of weights (900lb. - 1400lb.).  As long as I don't take the 600 out to Bonneville to reach the 80mph max speed, I think they might serve their purpose as a more affordable and readily accessible tire.  Again, some of the wheels look pretty gnarly.
> My other concern is with the curb weight and how a 600 would treat the tires.  Check out the links and let me know what everyone thinks:
> http://www.golfcart tirestore. com/20.5. htm
> http://www.golfcart tirestore. com/christmas_ spcl.htm
> To: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> From: dieseldr63@yahoo. com
> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:50:11 -0800
> Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Wheels and tires
> Golf cart or ATV tires are fine if you don't street drive your honda, as these tires are designated on the sidewall- NHS (non highway service).  I'm sure if we all get together on this one there must be someone who is willing to knock the centers out of the original wheels to weld them back into a different wheel--Now to find someone willing to bear the liability of it.
> From:
> trtlepnther21
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent:
> Tue, February 9, 2010 3:38:08 PM
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Wheels and tires
> Has anyone tried to use golf cart or ATV wheels and tires on their Honda 600?
> There is such a limited choice on tires and wheels out there for stock tires. $90/tire is about the cheapest that I can find tires for.
> Has anyone found a larger wheel/low profile tire combination that works well on the 600s?  I figure the sooner I move on to a more common tire size the better.
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zinc2u
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Re: Wheels and tires

Post by zinc2u »

Click here
to see tire info at the DOT site.   I saw some of the posts about persons having success using ATV and off-road tires on their cars.  When I looked at the golf cart tire info,  I can see they are claiming them to be DOT approved but I did not see any details on what the DOT ratings might be ..... those numbers and letters on the sidewall which indicate the tread wear, temperature rating, ply rating, etc.   I have never seen a golf cart driven on a highway surface at 60+ mph for an extended period.  If you are going to use a golf cart tire on your passenger car,  I would want to see something from the manufacturer showing it is an acceptable application of their tire.
If you were using these non-standard tires on your car and you had an accident on a public road because of a tire malfunction,  you would have a difficult time convincing the insurance companies and the law that you were not an idiot.  The insurance company would deny your claims because you had improper equipment.  The law would show you all the statutes you violated.  It would be an uphill battle trying to prove you knew what you were doing.
The world may be inspired by the persons who live their life as a maverick but when they get it wrong,  everyone else ends up paying the price.
In this case,  it leads to more laws and restrictions.
BTW,  when I looked at the golf cart tires, they seem to be about $50 each.  You can get a golf cart tire for $50 which may last a couple thousand miles on the freeway or you can get a 40,000 mile auto tire for $90.  Seems like the auto tire is a better buy.  I can see using golf cart tires if the car is for show but if it is going to be driven at freeway speeds,  I would go with the auto tire.
Hope you find some acceptable tires,
Dale
> The links below have some nice golf cart wheel/tire combo deals, and some > pretty great looking ones as well.  Most have an 8" tire width > (Not sure if this will clear the wheel well without customizing) and they have > varying wheel sizes.  Some of these tires claim to be highway rated > and are able to carry a range of weights (900lb. - 1400lb.).
> As long as I don't take the 600 out to Bonneville to reach the 80mph max > speed, I think they might serve their purpose as a more affordable and readily > accessible tire.  Again, some of the wheels look pretty gnarly.
> My
> other concern is with the curb weight and how a 600 would treat the > tires.  Check out the links and let me know what everyone > thinks:
> http://www.golfcart tirestore. com/20.5. htm
> http://www.golfcart tirestore. com/christmas_ spcl.htm
> To: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> From:
> dieseldr63@yahoo. com
> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:50:11 -0800
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] Wheels and tires
> Golf cart or ATV tires are fine if you don't street drive your honda, as > these tires are designated on the sidewall- NHS (non highway service).
> I'm sure if we all get together on this one there must be someone who is > willing to knock the centers out of the original wheels to weld them back into > a different wheel--Now to find someone willing to bear the liability of > it.
> From:
> trtlepnther21
>
> To:
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> Tue, February 9, 2010 3:38:08
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> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas]
> Wheels and tires
> Has anyone tried to use golf cart or ATV wheels
> and tires on their Honda 600?
> There is such a limited choice on tires and
> wheels out there for stock tires. $90/tire is about the cheapest that I can > find tires for.
> Has anyone found a larger wheel/low profile tire
> combination that works well on the 600s?  I figure the sooner I move on > to a more common tire size the > better.
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friend
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Wheels and tires

Post by friend »


    Besides the ratings, and mileage, it's illegal.  And, think about having something DOT approved.  As Dale has said here and I have said before, there is a liability you take on as a driver.  All accidents are investigated, tire, brakes, suspension parts, fuel assemblies all have DOT approved items on the list.  And, if you are under insured or the insurance does not cover non-DOT approved items, they you are liable for the damages.
    We have these safety items for a reason, and you know that if we start steering around the laws, the law makers will place road blocks in the hobby.
There are tires out there that are going for less than $90.00 each.  Members of this group are getting them from tire rack, Lucas, and yes, Coker tire has a vintage bias ply 480 x 10 for $108.00 each.  But there are other groups getting them for less.
Bill
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> [2cylinderhondas] Wheels and tires
> Click
> here
> to see tire info at the DOT site.   I saw some of the posts > about persons having success using ATV and off-road tires on their cars.
> When I looked at the golf cart tire info,  I can see they are claiming > them to be DOT approved but I did not see any details on what the DOT ratings > might be ..... those numbers and letters on the sidewall which indicate > the tread wear, temperature rating, ply rating, etc.   I have never > seen a golf cart driven on a highway surface at 60+ mph for an extended > period.  If you are going to use a golf cart tire on your passenger > car,  I would want to see something from the manufacturer showing it is > an acceptable application of their tire.
> If you were using these non-standard tires on your car and you had an > accident on a public road because of a tire malfunction,  you would have > a difficult time convincing the insurance companies and the law that you were > not an idiot.  The insurance company would deny your claims because you > had improper equipment.  The law would show you all the statutes you > violated.  It would be an uphill battle trying to prove you knew what you > were doing.
> The world may be inspired by the persons who live their life as a > maverick but when they get it wrong,  everyone else ends up paying the > price.  In this case,  it leads to more laws and restrictions.
> BTW,  when I looked at the golf cart tires, they seem to be about > $50 each.  You can get a golf cart tire for $50 which may last a > couple thousand miles on the freeway or you can get a 40,000 mile auto tire > for $90.  Seems like the auto tire is a better buy.  I can see > using golf cart tires if the car is for show but if it is going to be driven > at freeway speeds,  I would go with the auto tire.
> Hope you find some acceptable tires,
> Dale
> > The links below have some nice golf cart wheel/tire combo deals, and some > > pretty great looking ones as well.  Most have an 8" tire > > width (Not sure if this will clear the wheel well without customizing) and > > they have varying wheel sizes.  Some of these tires claim to be highway > > rated and are able to carry a range of weights (900lb. - > > 1400lb.).  As long as I don't take the 600 out to Bonneville to reach > > the 80mph max speed, I think they might serve their purpose as a more > > affordable and readily accessible tire.  Again, some of the wheels look > > pretty gnarly.
> > My other concern is with the curb weight and how a
> > 600 would treat the tires.  Check out the links and let me know what > > everyone thinks:
> > http://www.golfcart tirestore. com/20.5. htm
> > http://www.golfcart tirestore. com/christmas_ spcl.htm
> > To: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > From:
> > dieseldr63@yahoo. com
> > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:50:11
> > -0800
> > Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Wheels and
> > tires
> > Golf cart or ATV tires are fine if you don't street drive your honda, > > as these tires are designated on the sidewall- NHS (non highway > > service).  I'm sure if we all get together on this one there must be > > someone who is willing to knock the centers out of the original wheels to > > weld them back into a different wheel--Now to find someone willing to bear > > the liability of it.
> > From:
> > trtlepnther21
> >
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent:
> > Tue, February 9, 2010 3:38:08
> > PM
> > Subject:
> > [2cylinderhondas] Wheels and tires
> > Has anyone tried to use
> > golf cart or ATV wheels and tires on their Honda 600?
> > There is such a
> > limited choice on tires and wheels out there for stock tires. $90/tire is > > about the cheapest that I can find tires for.
> > Has anyone found a
> > larger wheel/low profile tire combination that works well on the 600s?
> > I figure the sooner I move on to a more common tire size the > > better.
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > Yahoo!
> > Groups Links
> > To
TOM THIES
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Re: Wheels and tires

Post by TOM THIES »


Well said!  I was going so say something about this to but I thnk Dale did a good gob.
Tom T.
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> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:10
> PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] Wheels and
> tires
> Click
> here
> to see tire info at the DOT site.   I saw some of the posts > about persons having success using ATV and off-road tires on their cars.
> When I looked at the golf cart tire info,  I can see they are claiming > them to be DOT approved but I did not see any details on what the DOT ratings > might be ..... those numbers and letters on the sidewall which indicate > the tread wear, temperature rating, ply rating, etc.   I have never > seen a golf cart driven on a highway surface at 60+ mph for an extended > period.  If you are going to use a golf cart tire on your passenger > car,  I would want to see something from the manufacturer showing it is > an acceptable application of their tire.
> If you were using these non-standard tires on your car and you had an > accident on a public road because of a tire malfunction,  you would have > a difficult time convincing the insurance companies and the law that you were > not an idiot.  The insurance company would deny your claims because you > had improper equipment.  The law would show you all the statutes you > violated.  It would be an uphill battle trying to prove you knew what you > were doing.
> The world may be inspired by the persons who live their life as a > maverick but when they get it wrong,  everyone else ends up paying the > price.  In this case,  it leads to more laws and restrictions.
> BTW,  when I looked at the golf cart tires, they seem to be about > $50 each.  You can get a golf cart tire for $50 which may last a > couple thousand miles on the freeway or you can get a 40,000 mile auto tire > for $90.  Seems like the auto tire is a better buy.  I can see > using golf cart tires if the car is for show but if it is going to be driven > at freeway speeds,  I would go with the auto tire.
> Hope you find some acceptable tires,
> Dale
> > The links below have some nice golf cart wheel/tire combo deals, and some > > pretty great looking ones as well.  Most have an 8" tire > > width (Not sure if this will clear the wheel well without customizing) and > > they have varying wheel sizes.  Some of these tires claim to be highway > > rated and are able to carry a range of weights (900lb. - > > 1400lb.).  As long as I don't take the 600 out to Bonneville to reach > > the 80mph max speed, I think they might serve their purpose as a more > > affordable and readily accessible tire.  Again, some of the wheels look > > pretty gnarly.
> > My other concern is with the curb weight and how a
> > 600 would treat the tires.  Check out the links and let me know what > > everyone thinks:
> > http://www.golfcart tirestore. com/20.5. htm
> > http://www.golfcart tirestore. com/christmas_ spcl.htm
> > To: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > From:
> > dieseldr63@yahoo. com
> > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:50:11
> > -0800
> > Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Wheels and
> > tires
> > Golf cart or ATV tires are fine if you don't street drive your honda, > > as these tires are designated on the sidewall- NHS (non highway > > service).  I'm sure if we all get together on this one there must be > > someone who is willing to knock the centers out of the original wheels to > > weld them back into a different wheel--Now to find someone willing to bear > > the liability of it.
> > From:
> > trtlepnther21
> >
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent:
> > Tue, February 9, 2010 3:38:08
> > PM
> > Subject:
> > [2cylinderhondas] Wheels and tires
> > Has anyone tried to use
> > golf cart or ATV wheels and tires on their Honda 600?
> > There is such a
> > limited choice on tires and wheels out there for stock tires. $90/tire is > > about the cheapest that I can find tires for.
> > Has anyone found a
> > larger wheel/low profile tire combination that works well on the 600s?
> > I figure the sooner I move on to a more common tire size the > > better.
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > Yahoo!
> > Groups Links
> > To
Matt Hew
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Re: Wheels and tires

Post by Matt Hew »

Thanks for all the feedback.
As for the ratings and the mileage you can expect out of the golf cart tires, that would certainly be a question for the manufacturer.  They may strictly advise against the idea.
Surely they wouldn't stand up to an auto tire's longevity, but if they meet all DOT standards and are considerably less (half as much)AND they allow for a wider range of treads, wheel styles etc., buying a tire that is half as expensive and replacing them 25% sooner MAY be a reasonable idea.
I certainly agree that tarnishing the hobby is not a good idea.  Just playing out all options.
As for the tires that ARE made for this car, it looks like $80 is the cheapest I can find.  Would I be correct or is there a better deal out there?
Thanks!
To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
From: tdthies1@...
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:43:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Wheels and tires

Well said!  I was going so say something about this to but I thnk Dale did a good gob.
Tom T.
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> From:
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> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent:
> Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:10
> PM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] Wheels and
> tires
> Click
> here
> to see tire info at the DOT site.   I saw some of the posts > about persons having success using ATV and off-road tires on their cars.
> When I looked at the golf cart tire info,  I can see they are claiming > them to be DOT approved but I did not see any details on what the DOT ratings > might be ..... those numbers and letters on the sidewall which indicate > the tread wear, temperature rating, ply rating, etc.   I have never > seen a golf cart driven on a highway surface at 60+ mph for an extended > period.  If you are going to use a golf cart tire on your passenger > car,  I would want to see something from the manufacturer showing it is > an acceptable application of their tire.
> If you were using these non-standard tires on your car and you had an > accident on a public road because of a tire malfunction,  you would have > a difficult time convincing the insurance companies and the law that you were > not an idiot.  The insurance company would deny your claims because you > had improper equipment.  The law would show you all the statutes you > violated.  It would be an uphill battle trying to prove you knew what you > were doing.
> The world may be inspired by the persons who live their life as a > maverick but when they get it wrong,  everyone else ends up paying the > price.  In this case,  it leads to more laws and restrictions.
> BTW,  when I looked at the golf cart tires, they seem to be about > $50 each.  You can get a golf cart tire for $50 which may last a > couple thousand miles on the freeway or you can get a 40,000 mile auto tire > for $90.  Seems like the auto tire is a better buy.  I can see > using golf cart tires if the car is for show but if it is going to be driven > at freeway speeds,  I would go with the auto tire.
> Hope you find some acceptable tires,
> Dale
> > The links below have some nice golf cart wheel/tire combo deals, and some > > pretty great looking ones as well.  Most have an 8" tire > > width (Not sure if this will clear the wheel well without customizing) and > > they have varying wheel sizes.  Some of these tires claim to be highway > > rated and are able to carry a range of weights (900lb. - > > 1400lb.).  As long as I don't take the 600 out to Bonneville to reach > > the 80mph max speed, I think they might serve their purpose as a more > > affordable and readily accessible tire.  Again, some of the wheels look > > pretty gnarly.
> > My other concern is with the curb weight and how a
> > 600 would treat the tires.  Check out the links and let me know what > > everyone thinks:
> > http://www.golfcart tirestore. com/20.5. htm
> > http://www.golfcart tirestore. com/christmas_ spcl.htm
> > To: 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > From:
> > dieseldr63@yahoo. com
> > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:50:11
> > -0800
> > Subject: Re: [2cylinderhondas] Wheels and
> > tires
> > Golf cart or ATV tires are fine if you don't street drive your honda, > > as these tires are designated on the sidewall- NHS (non highway > > service).  I'm sure if we all get together on this one there must be > > someone who is willing to knock the centers out of the original wheels to > > weld them back into a different wheel--Now to find someone willing to bear > > the liability of it.
> > From:
> > trtlepnther21
> >
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent:
> > Tue, February 9, 2010 3:38:08
> > PM
> > Subject:
> > [2cylinderhondas] Wheels and tires
> > Has anyone tried to use
> > golf cart or ATV wheels and tires on their Honda 600?
> > There is such a
> > limited choice on tires and wheels out there for stock tires. $90/tire is > > about the cheapest that I can find tires for.
> > Has anyone found a
> > larger wheel/low profile tire combination that works well on the 600s?
> > I figure the sooner I move on to a more common tire size the > > better.
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > Yahoo!
> > Groups Links
> > To
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Re: Wheels and tires

Post by zinc2u »

I noticed MiniMania
has tire prices starting at $80 plus shipping.  The best deal may be at JC Whitney .  They "guarantee" to have tires to fit the Honda 600, the pricing looked good,  and they frequently offer free shipping and discounts (if you sign up for their online bulletins).  Although I did not see anything at JC Whitney that appeared to fit,  they might surprise up and come up with a 10 inch tire.  You can communicate with someone when you are online at JC Whitney but I didn't invest the time.
good luck,
Dale
PS  The tires I have used on the 600 over the years have been; Michelin, Semperit, Bridgestone, Pirelli, Yokohama, and Goodyear.  With the exception of Semperit,  they all worked well.  The Semperit tires were a disaster ...... I never wore out a pair of those tires because the radial belts would break.  My friend had the same brand on his Mustang and noticed the same problem.
> As for
> the tires that ARE made for this car, it looks like $80 is the cheapest I can > find.  Would I be correct or is there a better deal out > there?
> Thanks!
TOM THIES
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Re: Wheels and tires

Post by TOM THIES »


right now at JC Whitney with a 15 percent discount and estimated shipping you can get 4 145/80r10 for 291.15.
Best way to find them there is to do  a google.  when I tried to put that tire in there search it did not come up.
hope this helps
Tom T
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