My n600 has been running strong for around a month now. I've driven it everywhere, despite the fact that it's getting horrible gas mileage (I think I need to adjust the carb, unsure).
Anyway, last weekend I drove to a relatives house around 20 miles away. It drove there perfectly. On the way back it started having a very difficult time accelerating, it would have miniature misfires, and it would all around not run very nicely.
Today I tried adjusting the timing to see if that was the issue, but it will only run if the vacuum advance is all the way advanced.
I drove it today and it stalled on me a number of times while idling, and would also stall on me when starting to drive unless I revved the engine really high before taking off.
While I'm kind of knowledgable with cars, I'm not going to jump to any conclusions, especially on a car that was made before I was born (IOW, it's a foreign technology to me, sort of like a Klingon Bird of Prey).
I'm going to check the spark plugs soon. Considering the horrible gas mileage I think it's possible that the car has been running super rich and the plugs might be fouled. Then I'm going to check the points to make sure they didn't come loose or anything.
Does this sound like a good course of action?
If neither of these things are the issue can anyone thing of another possible culprit?
Matt Timion
My n600 - giving up the ghost?
Re: My n600 - giving up the ghost?
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Matt,
At the top of my list is a rusty gas tank. The symptoms on my car were exactly as you mentioned, except that mine stranded me twice before I had the tank coated inside. You can see if this is the problem by disconnecting the gas line from the carb and then turn on the key. If it's not plugged up with rust, you will see a stream of gas coming out. The fuel pump may or may not be clicking. One time on mine it was clicking like it was pumping gas (nothing was coming out), the other time it didn't try to run at all. Hopefully, you have had a fuel filter to catch all the crap that comes out. My original fuel supply line (the one coming out the top of the tank) was either corroded or plugged up. I tapped the drain hole out with a pipe tap and put a right angle pipe to barb fitting in it for my supply line. If you have the fuel line disconnected from the fuel pump and tank, you can blow compressed air thru it to clear it out.
If you haven't rebuilt the carb, then you probably should. When you have the bowl off, look under the needle seat (pull it out). there is a tiny screen filter on it. I took mine off and pitched it. I run 2 fuel filters on my car to catch dirt. One is in the back close to the tank and the other is close to the carb. Both are 1/4" clear plastic so I can see anything in the gas.
Mileage wise, you should get between 40 to 50 mpg unless you drive it really hard.
Since you have had this problem, change the plugs after doing whatever fixes you do. I still say you should have gone with solid core wire on the plug wires as that is what came on it.
Your car will eventually be able to be a reliable daily driver. Hang in there. I am driving mine in this 100 degree Oklahoma heat. It's doing fine, yours will too.
Richard Morris
Matt,
At the top of my list is a rusty gas tank. The symptoms on my car were exactly as you mentioned, except that mine stranded me twice before I had the tank coated inside. You can see if this is the problem by disconnecting the gas line from the carb and then turn on the key. If it's not plugged up with rust, you will see a stream of gas coming out. The fuel pump may or may not be clicking. One time on mine it was clicking like it was pumping gas (nothing was coming out), the other time it didn't try to run at all. Hopefully, you have had a fuel filter to catch all the crap that comes out. My original fuel supply line (the one coming out the top of the tank) was either corroded or plugged up. I tapped the drain hole out with a pipe tap and put a right angle pipe to barb fitting in it for my supply line. If you have the fuel line disconnected from the fuel pump and tank, you can blow compressed air thru it to clear it out.
If you haven't rebuilt the carb, then you probably should. When you have the bowl off, look under the needle seat (pull it out). there is a tiny screen filter on it. I took mine off and pitched it. I run 2 fuel filters on my car to catch dirt. One is in the back close to the tank and the other is close to the carb. Both are 1/4" clear plastic so I can see anything in the gas.
Mileage wise, you should get between 40 to 50 mpg unless you drive it really hard.
Since you have had this problem, change the plugs after doing whatever fixes you do. I still say you should have gone with solid core wire on the plug wires as that is what came on it.
Your car will eventually be able to be a reliable daily driver. Hang in there. I am driving mine in this 100 degree Oklahoma heat. It's doing fine, yours will too.
Richard Morris
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> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] My n600
> - giving up the ghost?
> My n600 has been running strong for around a
> month now. I've driven it everywhere, despite the fact that it's getting > horrible gas mileage (I think I need to adjust the carb, unsure).
> Anyway, last weekend I drove to a relatives house
> around 20 miles away. It drove there perfectly. On the way back it > started having a very difficult time accelerating, it would have miniature > misfires, and it would all around not run very nicely.
> Today I tried adjusting the timing to see if that was the issue, but > it will only run if the vacuum advance is all the way advanced.
> I drove it today and it stalled on me a number of times while idling, and > would also stall on me when starting to drive unless I revved the engine > really high before taking off.
> While I'm kind of knowledgable with cars, I'm not going to jump to any > conclusions, especially on a car that was made before I was born (IOW, it's a > foreign technology to me, sort of like a Klingon Bird of Prey).
> I'm going to check the spark plugs soon. Considering the horrible > gas mileage I think it's possible that the car has been running super rich and > the plugs might be fouled. Then I'm going to check the points to make > sure they didn't come loose or anything.
> Does this sound like a good course of action?
> If neither of these things are the issue can anyone thing of another > possible culprit?
> Matt Timion
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Re: My n600 - giving up the ghost?
Good advice Richard. I'll check the fuel filter (new) to see if anything is clogging it up.
The carb was rebuild by Mike O'Connor and sold to the previous owner, so I hope it doesnt have an issues.
I'm getting around 20MPG in this car right now (difficult to accurately tell as the fuel pump won't automatically click off when I fill up), so something is wrong.
There are no gas leaks, so that is out of the question. My only guess is that the carb needs adjustment.
Like I said I'll check the fuel filter on Wednesday and see if it's clogged. Hopefully it's just that easy.
Matt Timion
The carb was rebuild by Mike O'Connor and sold to the previous owner, so I hope it doesnt have an issues.
I'm getting around 20MPG in this car right now (difficult to accurately tell as the fuel pump won't automatically click off when I fill up), so something is wrong.
There are no gas leaks, so that is out of the question. My only guess is that the carb needs adjustment.
Like I said I'll check the fuel filter on Wednesday and see if it's clogged. Hopefully it's just that easy.
Matt Timion
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> Matt,
> At
> the top of my list is a rusty gas tank. The symptoms on my car were exactly as > you mentioned, except that mine stranded me twice before I had the tank coated > inside. You can see if this is the problem by disconnecting the gas line from > the carb and then turn on the key. If it's not plugged up with rust, you will > see a stream of gas coming out. The fuel pump may or may not be clicking. One > time on mine it was clicking like it was pumping gas (nothing was coming out), > the other time it didn't try to run at all. Hopefully, you have had a fuel > filter to catch all the crap that comes out. My original fuel supply line (the > one coming out the top of the tank) was either corroded or plugged up. I > tapped the drain hole out with a pipe tap and put a right angle pipe to barb > fitting in it for my supply line. If you have the fuel line disconnected > from the fuel pump and tank, you can blow compressed air thru it to clear it > out.
> If
> you haven't rebuilt the carb, then you probably should. When you have the bowl > off, look under the needle seat (pull it out). there is a tiny screen filter > on it. I took mine off and pitched it. I run 2 fuel filters on my car to catch > dirt. One is in the back close to the tank and the other is close to the carb.
> Both are 1/4" clear plastic so I can see anything in the gas.
> Mileage wise, you should get between 40 to 50 mpg
> unless you drive it really hard.
> Since you have had this problem, change the plugs after doing whatever > fixes you do. I still say you should have gone with solid core wire on the > plug wires as that is what came on it.
> Your
> car will eventually be able to be a reliable daily driver. Hang in there. I am > driving mine in this 100 degree Oklahoma heat. It's doing fine, yours will > too.
> Richard
> Morris
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> > From:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of
> > Matt Timion
> > Sent:
> > Monday, July 03, 2006 5:09
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> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com;
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:
> > [anzhonda600owners] My
> > n600 - giving up the ghost?
> > My n600 has been running strong for around a
> > month now. I've driven it everywhere, despite the fact that it's > > getting horrible gas mileage (I think I need to adjust the carb, > > unsure).
> > Anyway, last weekend I drove to a relatives
> > house around 20 miles away. It drove there perfectly. On the way > > back it started having a very difficult time accelerating, it would have > > miniature misfires, and it would all around not run very > > nicely.
> > Today I tried adjusting the timing to see if that was the issue, > > but it will only run if the vacuum advance is all the way advanced.
> > I drove it today and it stalled on me a number of times while idling, > > and would also stall on me when starting to drive unless I revved the engine > > really high before taking off.
> > While I'm kind of knowledgable with cars, I'm not going to jump to any > > conclusions, especially on a car that was made before I was born (IOW, it's > > a foreign technology to me, sort of like a Klingon Bird of Prey).
> > I'm going to check the spark plugs soon. Considering the horrible > > gas mileage I think it's possible that the car has been running super rich > > and the plugs might be fouled. Then I'm going to check the points to > > make sure they didn't come loose or anything.
> > Does this sound like a good course of action?
> > If neither of these things are the issue can anyone thing of another > > possible culprit?
> > Matt Timion
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Re: My n600 - giving up the ghost?
I think it's possible. I guess after the regular tune-up checks I need to check the timing.
Matt Timion
Matt Timion
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> [anzhonda600owners] Re: My n600
> - giving up the ghost?
> Any chance that your cam chain might have slipped a tooth or two?
> Dave
> K.