Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600

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Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600

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Dale;
        I too have researched the oil products and agree that oil produced these days is far superior to oil of the 70's.  And, because of the high revving (5.5 to 6 K) shift ranges there is a lot to be said about the shearing effects made by the transmission.  But, after pulling a hundred or more of the Honda 600 engines apart, all, every one had tar build up on the inside of the case.
Some more than others but every one had heated to the point of burning the engine oil.  Not until I started using an oil cooler and remote filter did I have clean engines.  The oil still comes out darker than when I put it in, but nothing like it was from a Honda 600 that has the original filter on it.   The oil I use?  any production, quality 20W-50.
        Even my 1991 Seville has an oil cooler, a water cooled V8.  They work.
Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com] > On > Behalf Of > rickvanderkeur > Sent:
> Monday, September 21, 2009 8:36
> PM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> ,
> goinhm@... wrote:
> > Click _here_ (
> http://www.honda600 coupe.com/ Sedan_Owners_ Manual.pdf
> )
> to see
> > the recommendation from the owners manual. Look at page 57.
> The chart
> > shows the recommended oil for different temperatures. You > can use an oil > > recommended for cars and 10w-40 is a good fit for year > round conditions > > where you are not getting into super cold winter > temperatures.
> > good luck,
> > Dale
> > Hi i
> was wondering what kind of oil i have to use.
> > The one that is yust for
> cars?
> > or for motor bikes becouse is has an open transmission
> box?
> okay but is it a motorbike oil or a car oil beucause the guy > at the shop told me that they where different and the engine in a n600 is > original from a motorbike so he got confused. and said that the wrong oil will > be bad for the engine.
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Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600

Post by Philip Apronti »

Hi Bill:
Thanks for the oil recommendation!
One of the hondas I own was filled with synthetic oil when I bought it a few months ago.
Ran smoothly till about a month ago when oil started spewing out of the bolts that hold the valve cover and cam shaft block.
I consulted with you about this and after changing a couple of valve cover bolts, I was able to drive 1 day ok, then the problem started all over again. I found out that one of the bolts that hold the camshaft block was thicker than original and seemed to be a regular hardware store bolt forced in to fit a stripped thread. Bad news for me.
Does the synthetic oil have anything to do with this problem?
I now have bought an  n600 to pull parts out and bought a z600 yesterday which I am not interested in putting on the road.
I may be putting it up on ebay soon.
Phil in Newburgh, NY.
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Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600

Post by friend »

Hi Phil;
        Stripped bolts never hold.  And, torque requirements are there for a reason.  Lock tight is a Honda 600 owners best friend.  But, the bolt torque requirements must be met first, with a drop of red lock tight.  I used to recommend a Permatex Gear assembly lock, but it is no longer made.
Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Philip
> Apronti
> Sent:
> Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:16 AM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re: [anzhonda600owners]
> RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a
> n600
> Hi Bill:
> Thanks for the oil recommendation!
> One of the hondas I own
> was filled with synthetic oil when I bought it a few months ago.
> Ran
> smoothly till about a month ago when oil started spewing out of the bolts that > hold the valve cover and cam shaft block.
> I consulted with you about this
> and after changing a couple of valve cover bolts, I was able to drive 1 day > ok, then the problem started all over again. I found out that one of the bolts > that hold the camshaft block was thicker than original and seemed to be a > regular hardware store bolt forced in to fit a stripped thread. Bad news for > me.
> Does the synthetic oil have anything to do with this problem?
> I now
> have bought an  n600 to pull parts out and bought a z600 yesterday which > I am not interested in putting on the road.
> I may be putting it up on ebay
> soon.
> Phil
> in Newburgh, NY.
> From:
> "billmyong@earthlin k.net"
>
> To:
> Anzhonda600owners
> ;
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent:
> Wednesday, September 23, 2009
> 3:27:49 AM
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a > n600
> Dale;
>         I too have
> researched the oil products and agree that oil produced these days is far > superior to oil of the 70's.  And, because of the high revving (5.5 to 6 > K) shift ranges there is a lot to be said about the shearing effects made by > the transmission.  But, after pulling a hundred or more of the Honda > 600 engines apart, all, every one had tar build up on the inside of the > case.  Some more than others but every one had heated to the point of > burning the engine oil.  Not until I started using an oil cooler and > remote filter did I have clean engines.  The oil still comes out darker > than when I put it in, but nothing like it was from a Honda 600 that has the > original filter on it.   The oil I use?  any production, > quality 20W-50.
>         Even my
> 1991 Seville has an oil cooler, a water cooled V8.  They work.
> Bill
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > 2cylinderhondas@
> > yahoogroups. com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups .com] > > On Behalf Of
> > rickvanderkeur
> > Sent:
> > Monday, September 21, 2009 8:36
> > PM
> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Subject:
> > [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a
> > n600
> > --- In
> > 2cylinderhondas@
> > yahoogroups. com
> > , goinhm@... wrote:
> > > Click _here_
> > (
> > http://www.honda600 coupe.com/ Sedan_Owners_ Manual.pdf
> > )
> > to see
> > > the recommendation from the owners manual. Look at
> > page 57. The chart
> > > shows the recommended oil for different
> > temperatures. You can use an oil
> > > recommended for cars and 10w-40 is
> > a good fit for year round conditions
> > > where you are not getting into
> > super cold winter temperatures.
> > > good luck,
> > Dale
> > > Hi i was wondering what kind of oil i have to
> > use.
> > > The one that is yust for cars?
> > > or for motor bikes
> > becouse is has an open transmission box?
> > okay but is it a
> > motorbike oil or a car oil beucause the guy at the shop told me that they > > where different and the engine in a n600 is original from a motorbike so he > > got confused. and said that the wrong oil will be bad for the > > engine.
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Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600

Post by eddy aguayo »

Hello Phil.
 I might be interested in your cars when you finish taking of all you need, I like to adapt and improve, Be in touch.
Eddy.
--- El mi� 23-sep-09, billmyong@... escribi�:
> De:: billmyong@...
> Asunto: RE: [anzhonda600owners] RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600 > A: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com > Fecha: mi�rcoles 23 de septiembre de 2009, 23:56
> Hi
> Phil;
>         Stripped bolts never
> hold.  And, torque requirements are there for a reason.  Lock > tight is a Honda 600 owners best friend.  But, the bolt torque requirements > must be met first, with a drop of red lock tight.  I used to recommend a > Permatex Gear assembly lock, but it is no longer made.
> Bill
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:anzhonda600 owners@yahoogrou ps.com]
> > On Behalf Of
> > Philip
> > Apronti
> > Sent:
> > Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:16 AM
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Subject:
> > Re: [anzhonda600owners]
> > RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a
> > n600
> > Hi Bill:
> > Thanks for the oil recommendation!
> > One of the hondas I own
> > was filled with synthetic oil when I bought it a few months ago.
> > Ran
> > smoothly till about a month ago when oil started spewing out of the bolts that > > hold the valve cover and cam shaft block.
> > I consulted with you about this
> > and after changing a couple of valve cover bolts, I was able to drive 1 day > > ok, then the problem started all over again. I found out that one of the bolts > > that hold the camshaft block was thicker than original and seemed to be a > > regular hardware store bolt forced in to fit a stripped thread. Bad news for > > me.
> > Does the synthetic oil have anything to do with this problem?
> > I now
> > have bought an  n600 to pull parts out and bought a z600 yesterday which > > I am not interested in putting on the road.
> > I may be putting it up on ebay
> > soon.
> > Phil
> > in Newburgh, NY.
> > From:
> > "billmyong@earthlin k.net"
> >
> > To:
> > Anzhonda600owners
> > ;
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent:
> > Wednesday, September 23, 2009
> > 3:27:49 AM
> > Subject:
> > [anzhonda600owners] RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a > > n600
> > Dale;
> >         I too have
> > researched the oil products and agree that oil produced these days is far > > superior to oil of the 70's.  And, because of the high revving (5.5 to 6 > > K) shift ranges there is a lot to be said about the shearing effects made by > > the transmission.  But, after pulling a hundred or more of the Honda > > 600 engines apart, all, every one had tar build up on the inside of the > > case.  Some more than others but every one had heated to the point of > > burning the engine oil.  Not until I started using an oil cooler and > > remote filter did I have clean engines.  The oil still comes out darker > > than when I put it in, but nothing like it was from a Honda 600 that has the > > original filter on it.   The oil I use?  any production, > > quality 20W-50.
> >         Even my
> > 1991 Seville has an oil cooler, a water cooled V8.  They work.
> > Bill
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@
> > > yahoogroups. com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups .com] > > > On Behalf Of
> > > rickvanderkeur
> > > Sent:
> > > Monday, September 21, 2009 8:36
> > > PM
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject:
> > > [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a
> > > n600
> > > --- In
> > > 2cylinderhondas@
> > > yahoogroups. com
> > > , goinhm@... wrote:
> > > > Click _here_
> > > (
> > > http://www.honda600 coupe.com/ Sedan_Owners_ Manual.pdf > > > ) > > > to see > > > > the recommendation from the owners manual. Look at > > > page 57. The chart > > > > shows the recommended oil for different > > > temperatures. You can use an oil > > > > recommended for cars and 10w-40 is > > > a good fit for year round conditions > > > > where you are not getting into > > > super cold winter temperatures.
> > > > good luck,
> > > Dale
> > > > Hi i was wondering what kind of oil i have to
> > > use.
> > > > The one that is yust for cars?
> > > > or for motor bikes
> > > becouse is has an open transmission box?
> > > okay but is it a
> > > motorbike oil or a car oil beucause the guy at the shop told me that they > > > where different and the engine in a n600 is original from a motorbike so he > > > got confused. and said that the wrong oil will be bad for the > > > engine.
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Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600

Post by Philip Apronti »

Will be sure to keep in touch.
Where are you located?
Might extract engine, have not decided yet.
Keep my # XXX-XXX-XXXX.
From:
eddy aguayo To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:37:52 AM Subject:
RE: [anzhonda600owners] RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600
Hello Phil.
 I might be interested in your cars when you finish taking of all you need, I like to adapt and improve, Be in touch.
Eddy.
--- El mi� 23-sep-09, billmyong@earthlink .net escribi�:
> De:: billmyong@earthlink .net
> Asunto: RE: [anzhonda600owners] RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600 > A: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com > Fecha: mi�rcoles 23 de septiembre de 2009, 23:56
> Hi
> Phil;
>         Stripped bolts never
> hold.  And, torque requirements are there for a reason.  Lock > tight is a Honda 600 owners best friend.  But, the bolt torque requirements > must be met first, with a drop of red lock tight.  I used to recommend a > Permatex Gear assembly lock, but it is no longer made.
> Bill
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:anzhonda600 owners@yahoogrou
> > ps.com
> > ]
> > On Behalf Of
> > Philip
> > Apronti
> > Sent:
> > Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:16 AM
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Subject:
> > Re: [anzhonda600owners]
> > RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a
> > n600
> > Hi Bill:
> > Thanks for the oil recommendation!
> > One of the hondas I own
> > was filled with synthetic oil when I bought it a few months ago.
> > Ran
> > smoothly till about a month ago when oil started spewing out of the bolts that > > hold the valve cover and cam shaft block.
> > I consulted with you about this
> > and after changing a couple of valve cover bolts, I was able to drive 1 day > > ok, then the problem started all over again. I found out that one of the bolts > > that hold the camshaft block was thicker than original and seemed to be a > > regular hardware store bolt forced in to fit a stripped thread. Bad news for > > me.
> > Does the synthetic oil have anything to do with this problem?
> > I now
> > have bought an  n600 to pull parts out and bought a z600 yesterday which > > I am not interested in putting on the road.
> > I may be putting it up on ebay
> > soon.
> > Phil
> > in Newburgh, NY.
> > From:
> > "billmyong@earthlin
> > k.net
> > "
> >
> > To:
> > Anzhonda600owners
> > ;
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent:
> > Wednesday, September 23, 2009
> > 3:27:49 AM
> > Subject:
> > [anzhonda600owners] RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a > > n600
> > Dale;
> >         I too have
> > researched the oil products and agree that oil produced these days is far > > superior to oil of the 70's.  And, because of the high revving (5.5 to 6 > > K) shift ranges there is a lot to be said about the shearing effects made by > > the transmission.  But, after pulling a hundred or more of the Honda > > 600 engines apart, all, every one had tar build up on the inside of the > > case.  Some more than others but every one had heated to the point of > > burning the engine oil.  Not until I started using an oil cooler and > > remote filter did I have clean engines.  The oil still comes out darker > > than when I put it in, but nothing like it was from a Honda 600 that has the > > original filter on it.   The oil I use?  any production, > > quality 20W-50.
> >         Even my
> > 1991 Seville has an oil cooler, a water cooled V8.  They work.
> > Bill
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@
> > > yahoogroups. com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups .com] > > > On Behalf Of
> > > rickvanderkeur
> > > Sent:
> > > Monday, September 21, 2009 8:36
> > > PM
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject:
> > > [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a
> > > n600
> > > --- In
> > > 2cylinderhondas@
> > > yahoogroups. com
> > > , goinhm@... wrote:
> > > > Click _here_
> > > (
> > > http://www.honda600coupe.com/Sedan_Owners_Manual.pdf
> > > )
> > > to see
> > > > the recommendation from the owners manual. Look at
> > > page 57. The chart
> > > > shows the recommended oil for different
> > > temperatures. You can use an oil
> > > > recommended for cars and 10w-40 is
> > > a good fit for year round conditions
> > > > where you are not getting into
> > > super cold winter temperatures.
> > > > good luck,
> > > Dale
> > > > Hi i was wondering what kind of oil i have to
> > > use.
> > > > The one that is yust for cars?
> > > > or for motor bikes
> > > becouse is has an open transmission box?
> > > okay but is it a
> > > motorbike oil or a car oil beucause the guy at the shop told me that they > > > where different and the engine in a n600 is original from a motorbike so he > > > got confused. and said that the wrong oil will be bad for the > > > engine.
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Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600

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Hello Bill:
I once found the torque reqs online a few months ago but could not print.
I should have written them but I thought I could get it anytime, now I can't find it.
Do you have any recommendations for the set of bolts that hold the cam block?
You gave me the valve cover torque as not more than 90 inch/lb.
Phil.
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Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600

Post by eddy aguayo »

Hi Phill.
Im in M�xico, I have a z 600 Its the only one I�ve ever seen in M�xico, there are two sedans in my city in perfect conditions but there are garage cars, mine is on the road, it might not be easy to bring yours here but we can try. kevin from Sacramento gave me one its already in San diego waitting for the importation so....
--- El jue 24-sep-09, Philip Apronti escribi�:
> De:: Philip Apronti
> Asunto: Re: [anzhonda600owners] RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600 > A: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com > Fecha: jueves 24 de septiembre de 2009, 8:10
> Will be sure to keep in touch.
> Where are you located?
> Might extract engine, have not decided yet.
> Keep my # XXX-XXX-XXXX.
> From:
> eddy aguayo
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent:
> Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:37:52 AM
> Subject:
> RE: [anzhonda600owners]
> RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600
> Hello Phil.
>  I might be interested in your cars when you finish taking of all you need, I like to adapt and improve, Be in touch.
> Eddy.
> --- El
> mi� 23-sep-09, billmyong@earthlink .net
>
> escribi�:
> > De:: billmyong@earthlink .net > > Asunto: RE: [anzhonda600owners] RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600 > > A: anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com > > Fecha: mi�rcoles 23 de septiembre de 2009, 23:56
> > Hi
> > Phil;
> >         Stripped bolts never
> > hold.  And, torque requirements are there for a reason.  Lock > > tight is a Honda 600 owners best friend.  But, the bolt torque requirements > > must be met first, with a drop of red lock tight.  I used to recommend a > > Permatex Gear assembly lock, but it is no longer made.
> > Bill
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > > [mailto:anzhonda600 owners@yahoogrou
> > > ps.com
> > > ]
> > > On Behalf Of
> > > Philip
> > > Apronti
> > > Sent:
> > > Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:16 AM
> > > To:
> > > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [anzhonda600owners]
> > > RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a
> > > n600
> > > Hi Bill:
> > > Thanks for the oil recommendation!
> > > One of the hondas I own
> > > was filled with synthetic oil when I bought it a few months ago.
> > > Ran
> > > smoothly till about a month ago when oil started spewing out of the bolts that > > > hold the valve cover and cam shaft block.
> > > I consulted with you about this
> > > and after changing a couple of valve cover bolts, I was able to drive 1 day > > > ok, then the problem started all over again. I found out that one of the bolts > > > that hold the camshaft block was thicker than original and seemed to be a > > > regular hardware store bolt forced in to fit a stripped thread. Bad news for > > > me.
> > > Does the synthetic oil have anything to do with this problem?
> > > I now
> > > have bought an  n600 to pull parts out and bought a z600 yesterday which > > > I am not interested in putting on the road.
> > > I may be putting it up on ebay
> > > soon.
> > > Phil
> > > in Newburgh, NY.
> > > From:
> > > "billmyong@earthlin
> > > k.net
> > > "
> > >
> > > To:
> > > Anzhonda600owners
> > > ;
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent:
> > > Wednesday, September 23, 2009
> > > 3:27:49 AM
> > > Subject:
> > > [anzhonda600owners] RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a > > > n600
> > > Dale;
> > >         I too have
> > > researched the oil products and agree that oil produced these days is far > > > superior to oil of the 70's.  And, because of the high revving (5.5 to 6 > > > K) shift ranges there is a lot to be said about the shearing effects made by > > > the transmission.  But, after pulling a hundred or more of the Honda > > > 600 engines apart, all, every one had tar build up on the inside of the > > > case.  Some more than others but every one had heated to the point of > > > burning the engine oil.  Not until I started using an oil cooler and > > > remote filter did I have clean engines.  The oil still comes out darker > > > than when I put it in, but nothing like it was from a Honda 600 that has the > > > original filter on it.   The oil I use?  any production, > > > quality 20W-50.
> > >         Even my
> > > 1991 Seville has an oil cooler, a water cooled V8.  They work.
> > > Bill
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@
> > > > yahoogroups. com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups .com] > > > > On Behalf Of
> > > > rickvanderkeur
> > > > Sent:
> > > > Monday, September 21, 2009 8:36
> > > > PM
> > > > To:
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject:
> > > > [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a
> > > > n600
> > > > --- In
> > > > 2cylinderhondas@
> > > > yahoogroups. com
> > > > , goinhm@... wrote:
> > > > > Click _here_
> > > > (
> > > > http://www.honda600 coupe.com/ Sedan_Owners_ Manual.pdf > > > > ) > > > > to see > > > > > the recommendation from the owners manual. Look at > > > > page 57. The chart > > > > > shows the recommended oil for different > > > > temperatures. You can use an oil > > > > > recommended for cars and 10w-40 is > > > > a good fit for year round conditions > > > > > where you are not getting into > > > > super cold winter temperatures.
> > > > > good luck,
> > > > Dale
> > > > > Hi i was wondering what kind of oil i have to
> > > > use.
> > > > > The one that is yust for cars?
> > > > > or for motor bikes
> > > > becouse is has an open transmission box?
> > > > okay but is it a
> > > > motorbike oil or a car oil beucause the guy at the shop told me that they > > > > where different and the engine in a n600 is original from a motorbike so he > > > > got confused. and said that the wrong oil will be bad for the > > > > engine.
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Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a n600

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I use no more than 90 inch pounds of torque on 6mm bolts, 150 inch pounds on 8mm threads when either are bolted into aluminum.  The exhaust studs are 8mm and threaded into aluminum.  I don't put more than 150 inch pounds on the exhaust stud nut.   Steel to steel are 35 foot pounds of torque.   If you are pulling the threads out with this setting then these bolts were over torqued in the past and will need to be repaired.
Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Philip
> Apronti
> Sent:
> Thursday, September 24, 2009 6:15 AM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re: [anzhonda600owners]
> RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a
> n600
> Hello Bill:
> I once found the torque reqs online a few months ago but
> could not print.
> I should have written them but I thought I could get it
> anytime, now I can't find it.
> Do you have any recommendations for the set
> of bolts that hold the cam block?
> You gave me the valve cover torque as not
> more than 90 inch/lb.
> Phil.
> From:
> "billmyong@earthlin k.net"
>
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent:
> Thursday, September 24, 2009
> 12:56:50 AM
> Subject:
> RE:
> [anzhonda600owners] RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a > n600
> Hi
> Phil;
>         Stripped bolts never
> hold.  And, torque requirements are there for a reason.  Lock > tight is a Honda 600 owners best friend.  But, the bolt torque > requirements must be met first, with a drop of red lock tight.  I used to > recommend a Permatex Gear assembly lock, but it is no longer made.
> Bill
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > anzhonda600owners@
> > yahoogroups. com [mailto:anzhonda600 owners@yahoogrou > > ps.com > > ] > > On Behalf Of > > Philip > > Apronti > > Sent:
> > Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:16 AM
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Subject:
> > Re:
> > [anzhonda600owners] RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a > > n600
> > Hi Bill:
> > Thanks for the oil recommendation!
> > One of the hondas I
> > own was filled with synthetic oil when I bought it a few months ago.
> > Ran
> > smoothly till about a month ago when oil started spewing out of the bolts > > that hold the valve cover and cam shaft block.
> > I consulted with you about
> > this and after changing a couple of valve cover bolts, I was able to drive 1 > > day ok, then the problem started all over again. I found out that one of the > > bolts that hold the camshaft block was thicker than original and seemed to > > be a regular hardware store bolt forced in to fit a stripped thread. Bad > > news for me.
> > Does the synthetic oil have anything to do with this
> > problem?
> > I now have bought an  n600 to pull parts out and bought a > > z600 yesterday which I am not interested in putting on the road.
> > I may be
> > putting it up on ebay soon.
> > Phil
> > in Newburgh, NY.
> > From:
> > "billmyong@earthlin
> > k.net
> > " > .net>
> > To:
> > Anzhonda600owners ; > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com > > Sent:
> > Wednesday, September 23, 2009
> > 3:27:49 AM
> > Subject:
> > [anzhonda600owners] RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a > > n600
> > Dale;
> >         I too
> > have researched the oil products and agree that oil produced these days is > > far superior to oil of the 70's.  And, because of the high revving (5.5 > > to 6 K) shift ranges there is a lot to be said about the shearing effects > > made by the transmission.  But, after pulling a hundred or more of > > the Honda 600 engines apart, all, every one had tar build up on the inside > > of the case.  Some more than others but every one had heated to the > > point of burning the engine oil.  Not until I started using an oil > > cooler and remote filter did I have clean engines.  The oil still comes > > out darker than when I put it in, but nothing like it was from a Honda 600 > > that has the original filter on it.   The oil I use?  any > > production, quality 20W-50.
> >         Even my
> > 1991 Seville has an oil cooler, a water cooled V8.  They work.
> > Bill
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@
> > > yahoogroups. com [mailto:2cylinderho ndas@yahoogroups .com] > > > On Behalf Of
> > > rickvanderkeur
> > > Sent:
> > > Monday, September 21, 2009 8:36
> > > PM
> > > To:
> > > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject:
> > > [2cylinderhondas] Re: What kind of oil for a
> > > n600
> > > --- In
> > > 2cylinderhondas@
> > > yahoogroups. com
> > > , goinhm@... wrote:
> > > > Click
> > > _here_ (
> > > http://www.honda600 coupe.com/ Sedan_Owners_ Manual.pdf > > > ) > > > to see > > > > the recommendation from the owners manual.
> > > Look at page 57. The chart
> > > > shows the recommended oil for
> > > different temperatures. You can use an oil
> > > > recommended for cars
> > > and 10w-40 is a good fit for year round conditions > > > > where you are > > > not getting into super cold winter temperatures.
> > > > good
> > > luck,
> > > > Dale
> > > > Hi i was wondering what kind of oil i
> > > have to use.
> > > > The one that is yust for cars?
> > > > or for motor
> > > bikes becouse is has an open transmission box?
> > > okay but is it a
> > > motorbike oil or a car oil beucause the guy at the shop told me that they > > > where different and the engine in a n600 is original from a motorbike so > > > he got confused. and said that the wrong oil will be bad for the > > > engine.
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