EV

T W S · Post by **T W S** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:11 pm

Just wondering if anyone has looked into making an EV out of one of these cars. Ive been trying to research and see its been done using part of the stock transaxle. There was one on Utube in Mexico where they used a Geo Metro transaxle. Where im at its kind of pointless to deal with a stock engine and im pretty sure i could get the car to scoot if i could stuff an electric motor to the transaxle somehow. Anyone?? thanks, Tim

Mark P Hatten · Post by **Mark P Hatten** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:45 pm

I have the remnants of Honda Z600 EV, so yes, it can be done, battery storage would be a problem I'm sure and may be why this project was abandoned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BX0Qs9g81c
www.mphspecialties.com
To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com From: woofbiteme@...
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 18:11:43 -0800 Subject: [anzhonda600owners] EV
Just wondering if anyone has looked into making an EV out of one of these cars. Ive been trying to research and see its been done using part of the stock transaxle. There was one on Utube in Mexico where they used a Geo Metro transaxle. Where im at its kind of pointless to deal with a stock engine and im pretty sure i could get the car to scoot if i could stuff an electric motor to the transaxle somehow. Anyone?? thanks, Tim

T W S · Post by **T W S** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:16 pm

hi Mark, it looked like there wasnt enough there to determine how the motor was placed. (Your car body looks like its in pretty workable condtion by the way). I recently picked up a Z600 body shell from Ray Cave that was about the same shape. If it works out, id like to put a motor in front and somehow split that engine transmission assembly and mount the motor up there. Ive studied a lot of other cars to see how they did thier conversions but this car is a lot smaller and the transmission is problematic due to how its constructed. will see what more info i can gleen. Thanks, Tim

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wrote:
> From: Mark P Hatten
> Subject: RE: [anzhonda600owners] EV
> To: "Honda 600 group"
> Date: Friday, January 4, 2013, 9:45 PM
> I have the remnants of Honda Z600 EV, so yes, it can be done, battery storage would be a problem I'm sure and may be why this project was abandoned
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BX0Qs9g81c
> www.mphspecialties.com
> To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> From: woofbiteme@...
> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 18:11:43 -0800
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] EV
> Just wondering if anyone has looked into making an EV out of one of these cars. Ive been trying to research and see its been done using part of the stock transaxle. There was one on Utube in Mexico where they used a Geo Metro transaxle. Where im at its kind of pointless to deal with a stock engine and im pretty sure i could get the car to scoot if i could stuff an electric motor to the transaxle somehow. Anyone?? thanks, Tim

Chas · Post by **Chas** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:58 am

Hi Tim,
Used engines do turn up periodically or you could have yours rebuilt by a competent motorcycle mechanic.. Certainly, it would be a lot easier than sourcing all the parts for an EV conversion and doing all ofnthe modification necessary to make it work properly. The proper engine rebuild may cost more but the original car will be a whole lot more valuable than an EV conversion in the end.
Where are you located, and do ou have a bad engine or no engine at all? Don't get discouraged. Just be persistant and something will turn up. Mike O'Conner often sells used and rebuilt engines lthough they can be pricey.
Chas

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anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, T W S wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone has looked into making an EV out of one of these cars. Ive been trying to research and see its been done�using part of the stock transaxle. There was one on Utube in Mexico where they used a Geo Metro transaxle. Where im at its kind of pointless to deal with�a stock engine�and im pretty sure i could get the car to scoot if i could stuff an electric motor to the transaxle somehow. Anyone?? thanks, Tim

T W S · Post by **T W S** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:35 am

hi Chas, I do have a Z600 that sometime down the road i will end up restoring. My situation is that i had bought one with rusted out floor pans and its got a siezed motor with a big hole in the front of the engine block. (motor is siezed) Just before winter set in i made a road trip and got a new body shell . So ill be gutting the first one out and using most of the parts for the shell i got. I have about enough stuff to just about finish it including another rebuildable engine but this electic car conversion is something that im pretty set on doing-unless i cant get the targeted range and speed im looking for. I have a brother who said if i wanted to do it hed fund a conversion kit with except possibly the batteries but will see.

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Sat, 1/5/13, Chas

wrote:
> From: Chas
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: EV
> To: anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 7:58 AM
> Hi Tim,
> Used engines do turn up periodically or you could have yours rebuilt by a competent motorcycle mechanic.. Certainly, it would be a lot easier than sourcing all the parts for an EV conversion and doing all ofnthe modification necessary to make it work properly. The proper engine rebuild may cost more but the original car will be a whole lot more valuable than an EV conversion in the end.
> Where are you located, and do ou have a bad engine or no engine at all? Don't get discouraged. Just be persistant and something will turn up. Mike O'Conner often sells used and rebuilt engines lthough they can be pricey.
> Chas
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> , T W S wrote:
> > Just wondering if anyone has looked into making an EV out of one of these > cars. Ive been trying to research and see its been done using part of the stock transaxle. There was one on Utube in Mexico where they used a Geo Metro transaxle. Where im at its kind of pointless to deal with a stock engine and im pretty sure i could get the car to scoot if i could stuff an electric motor to the transaxle somehow. Anyone?? thanks, Tim

Gabriel Garcia Diaz · Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:28 am

If you do decide to convert please post. I'm going to run my Z600 till the engine gives up the ghost (catastrophic mechanical failure). Then do the conversion to electric drive. I bought the Z with this in mind. But the damn car is 42 years old and still running strong so this might be a ways away.
Gabe

On Jan 5, 2013, at 9:35, T W S wrote:
hi Chas, I do have a Z600 that sometime down the road i will end up restoring. My situation is that i had bought one with rusted out floor pans and its got a siezed motor with a big hole in the front of the engine block. (motor is siezed) Just before winter set in i made a road trip and got a new body shell . So ill be gutting the first one out and using most of the parts for the shell i got. I have about enough stuff to just about finish it including another rebuildable engine but this electic car conversion is something that im pretty set on doing-unless i cant get the targeted range and speed im looking for. I have a brother who said if i wanted to do it hed fund a conversion kit with except possibly the batteries but will see.
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Sat, 1/5/13, Chas
From: Chas chasgould@...
> Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: EV
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 7:58 AM
> Hi Tim,
> Used engines do turn up periodically or you could have yours rebuilt by a competent motorcycle mechanic.. Certainly, it would be a lot easier than sourcing all the parts for an EV conversion and doing all ofnthe modification necessary to make it work properly. The proper engine rebuild may cost more but the original car will be a whole lot more valuable than an EV conversion in the end.
> Where are you located, and do ou have a bad engine or no engine at all? Don't get discouraged. Just be persistant and something will turn up. Mike O'Conner often sells used and rebuilt engines lthough they can be pricey.
> Chas
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> , T W S wrote:
> > Just wondering if anyone has looked into making an EV out of one of these > cars. Ive been trying to research and see its been done using part of the stock transaxle. There was one on Utube in Mexico where they used a Geo Metro transaxle. Where im at its kind of pointless to deal with a stock engine and im pretty sure i could get the car to scoot if i could stuff an electric motor to the transaxle somehow. Anyone?? thanks, Tim

T W S · Post by **T W S** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:16 pm

im pretty set on doing an EV conversion to my Z600. i have to figure out if theres a way i can separate the transaxle from the engine. I really dont want to be cutting and resizing CV axles to the narrow width of the car. And i need it to do at least 55 and get some kind of range out of it too. Will see

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Sat, 1/5/13, Gabriel Garcia Diaz

wrote:
> From: Gabriel Garcia Diaz
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: EV
> To: "anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com" > Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 12:27 PM
> If you do decide to convert please post. I'm going to run my Z600 till the engine gives up the ghost (catastrophic mechanical failure). Then do the conversion to electric drive. I bought the Z with this in mind. But the damn car is 42 years old and still running strong so this might be a ways away.
> Gabe
> On Jan 5, 2013, at 9:35, T W S woofbiteme@...
> > wrote:
> > hi Chas, I do have a Z600 that sometime down the road i will end up restoring. My situation is that i had bought one with rusted out floor pans and its got a siezed motor with a big hole in the front of the engine block. (motor is siezed) Just before winter set in i made a road trip and got a new body shell . So ill be gutting the first one out and using most of the parts for the shell i got. I have about enough stuff to just about finish it including another rebuildable engine but this electic car conversion is something that im pretty set on doing-unless i cant get the targeted range and speed im looking for. I have a brother who said if i wanted to do it hed fund a conversion kit with except possibly the batteries but will see.
> > --- On
> > Sat, 1/5/13, Chas
> > > chasgould@...
> > wrote:
> > > From: Chas > > chasgould@...
> > > Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: EV
> > > To:
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 7:58 AM
> > > Hi Tim,
> > > Used engines do turn up periodically or you could have yours rebuilt by a competent motorcycle mechanic.. Certainly, it would be a lot easier than sourcing all the parts for an EV conversion and doing all ofnthe modification necessary to make it work properly. The proper engine rebuild may cost more but the original car will be a whole lot more valuable than an EV conversion in the end.
> > > Where are you located, and do ou have a bad engine or no engine at all? Don't get discouraged. Just be persistant and something will turn up. Mike O'Conner often sells used and rebuilt engines lthough they can be pricey.
> > > Chas
> > > --- In
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > , T W S wrote:
> > > > Just wondering if anyone has looked into making an EV out of one of these cars. Ive been trying to research and see its been > > > done using part of the stock transaxle. There was one on Utube in Mexico where they used a Geo Metro transaxle. Where im at its kind of pointless to deal with a stock engine and im pretty sure i could get the car to scoot if i could stuff an electric motor to the transaxle somehow. Anyone?? thanks, Tim

Bill · Post by **Bill** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:27 am

You know, there was a Honda 600 owner who mounted an electric motor on top of the engine case and had a chain drive to the crankshaft incorporating the original crankshaft with bearings and clutch to the transmission and had all four forward gears and reverse. It looked as if he put a plate over he cylinder area and used it as a mounting for the electric motor. Maybe he is still part of the group or some one remembers him.
Bill

Love · Post by **Love** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:31 am

Stu Horn, of Long Island, NY did this. The power plant is a repurposed DC-4 starter motor pumped up to 72v. The motor goes directly to the transmission main shaft (the crank is there to keep the oil in I guess). It's out in my shed, waiting for attention. I have pictures (old fashioned film), have yet to scan them.
Bruce D.
Santa Clara, CA From:
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RE: [anzhonda600owners] Re: EV
You know, there was a Honda 600 owner who mounted an electric motor on top of the engine case and had a chain drive to the crankshaft incorporating the original crankshaft with bearings and clutch to the transmission and had all four forward gears and reverse. It looked as if he put a plate over he cylinder area and used it as a mounting for the electric motor. Maybe he is still part of the group or some one remembers him.
Bill

TOM THIES · Post by **TOM THIES** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:20 pm

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here is a few pictures of a sedan electric, it is about a third of the way down on the web page.
http://mind-temple.com/600/humor.htm#Automotive

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> Stu Horn, of Long Island, NY did this. The power plant is a repurposed > DC-4 starter motor pumped up to 72v. The motor goes directly to the > transmission main shaft (the crank is there to keep the oil in I guess).
> It's out in my shed, waiting for attention. I have pictures (old > fashioned film), have yet to scan them.
> Bruce D.
> Santa Clara,
> CA
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> You know, there was a Honda 600 owner who mounted an
> electric motor on top of the engine case and had a chain drive to the > crankshaft incorporating the original crankshaft with bearings and clutch to > the transmission and had all four forward gears and reverse. It looked > as if he put a plate over he cylinder area and used it as a mounting for the > electric motor. Maybe he is still part of the group or some one > remembers him.
> Bill
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> Re: EV
> im pretty set on doing an EV conversion to my Z600. i
> have to figure out if theres a way i can separate the transaxle from the > engine. I really dont want to be cutting and resizing CV axles to the > narrow width of the car. And i need it to do at least 55 and get some > kind of range out of it too. Will see > --- On > Sat, 1/5/13, Gabriel > Garcia Diaz > > wrote:
> > From:
> > Gabriel Garcia Diaz
> > Subject: Re:
> > [anzhonda600owners] Re: EV
> > To: "anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com"
> >
> > Date: Saturday, January
> > 5, 2013, 12:27 PM
> > If you do decide to convert please post. I'm going to run my Z600 > > till the engine gives up the ghost (catastrophic mechanical failure).
> > Then do the conversion to electric drive. I bought the Z with this in > > mind. But the damn car is 42 years old and still running strong so > > this might be a ways away.
> > Gabe
> > On Jan 5, 2013, at 9:35, T W S > woofbiteme@...
> > wrote:
> > > hi Chas, I do have a Z600 that sometime
> > > down the road i will end up restoring. My situation is that i > > > had bought one with rusted out floor pans and its got a siezed > > > motor with a big hole in the front of the engine block. (motor > > > is siezed) Just before winter set in i made a road trip and > > > got a new body shell . So ill be gutting the first > > > one out and using most of the parts for the shell i got.
> > > I have about enough stuff to just about finish it including > > > another rebuildable engine but this electic car conversion is > > > something that im pretty set on doing-unless i cant get the > > > targeted range and speed im looking for. I have a brother who > > > said if i wanted to do it hed fund a conversion kit with > > > except possibly the batteries but will see.
> > > --- On
> > > Sat, 1/5/13, Chas
> > > > > chasgould@...
> > > wrote:
> > > > From: Chas
> > > > > > > chasgould@...
> > > > Subject:
> > > > [anzhonda600owners] Re: EV
> > > > To:
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date:
> > > > Saturday, January 5, 2013, 7:58 AM
> > > > Hi Tim,
> > > > Used engines do turn up periodically or you
> > > > could have yours rebuilt by a competent motorcycle > > > > mechanic.. Certainly, it would be a lot easier than sourcing > > > > all the parts for an EV conversion and doing all ofnthe > > > > modification necessary to make it work properly. The proper > > > > engine rebuild may cost more but the original car will be a > > > > whole lot more valuable than an EV conversion in the > > > > end.
> > > > Where are you located, and do ou have a bad engine
> > > > or no engine at all? Don't get discouraged. Just be > > > > persistant and something will turn up. Mike O'Conner often > > > > sells used and rebuilt engines lthough they can be > > > > pricey.
> > > > Chas
> > > > --- In
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > , T W S
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Just wondering if anyone has looked
> > > > into making an EV out of one of these cars. Ive been trying > > > > to research and see its been done using part of the > > > > stock transaxle. There was one on Utube in Mexico where they > > > > used a Geo Metro transaxle. Where im at its kind of > > > > pointless to deal with a stock engine and im > > > > pretty sure i could get the car to scoot if i could stuff an > > > > electric motor to the transaxle somehow. Anyone?? thanks, > > > > Tim