New 600 performance parts website!

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dgrandinett
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Re: New 600 performance parts website!

Post by dgrandinett »

Very simple really, but first I would go to the MSD website and download the "Installation Instructions" for the specific control module you have on-hand. In summary for the 6AL I installed-- Heavy Red goes to fuse block, Heavy Black to a good Body Ground, Red from the (+) coil wire switched by the ignition key, White from the (-) coil wire switched by the points, Orange to the Positive (+) side of the new coil and Black to the Negative (-) side.
Not only is the spark now much, much Hotter, but more importantly the points are now relieved of handling the relatively high coil current and only have to deal with a very small trigger current which allows them to function almost indefinitely at least from an electrical point of view.
Just for reference keep in mind that the Honda is a simultaneous fire engine ie both plugs fire together at the same time. I ended up using an "ACCEL 140406BK Dual Fire Black Super Coil" (a performance upgrade for Harley-Davidson which also happens to be simultaneous double fire).
So far, this arrangement seems to be functioning flawlessly. Just be sure to retime the engine on the "Hot" side to compensate for any possible delay in the electronics. I didn't experience any, but better to be sure.
Good luck if you decide to give it a try.
> On August 13, 2019 at 1:05 AM "tgm_enterprizes@... [anzhonda600owners]" wrote:
> I have a pertronix igniter that is on a 600 advance plate. It’s 1/2 the issue, the other piece to this is on the rotor. It has to be machined in order to mount the round piece that I think contains the magnets.
> I only have one and I did a rough estimate of what I would need to get and if the pertronix igniter is used, it would end up being about $175. BUT, the system you really want is the pertronix igniter II (protected against you wiring it wrong and some other things) of course it’s more expensive, but if I was to make this, I would have to use the version 2 since I don’t want to deal with someone blowing up the module and saying it was my fault.
> I have 2 MSD 6AL boxes, how do you wire them up for the 600’s?
> P.s. on my website, you can scroll through the pictures I put on there and you will see that I use Accel super coil as my coil. It has 2 outputs and has the hottest spark of any coil you can get. It’s like 80,000volts or more, (I am old and forget). It also had a gigantic effect on the engine starting and I haven’t had any high RPM miss since I put it on. I put it right where the old coil was (see picture).
> Richard
> Honda600Performance.com
Mark P Hatten
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MSD BOX install [anzhonda600owners] New 600 performance parts websit

Post by Mark P Hatten »

Here is a video that I produced installing an MSD Box on my N 600
https://youtu.be/40T3uaKdCE0
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Tuesday, 13 August 2019, 07:36AM -07:00 from D & K Grandinett grandinett@... [anzhonda600owners] anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com:
> Very simple really, but first I would go to the MSD website and download the "Installation Instructions" for the specific control module you have on-hand. In summary for the 6AL I installed-- Heavy Red goes to fuse block, Heavy Black to a good Body Ground, > Red from the (+) coil wire switched by the ignition key, White from the (-) coil wire switched by the points, Orange to the Positive (+) side of the new coil and Black to the Negative (-) side.
> Not only is the spark now much, much Hotter, but more importantly the points are now relieved of handling the relatively high coil current and only have to deal with a very small trigger current which allows them to function almost indefinitely at least > from an electrical point of view.
> Just for reference keep in mind that the Honda is a simultaneous fire engine ie both plugs fire together at the same time. I ended up using an "ACCEL 140406BK Dual Fire Black Super Coil" (a performance upgrade for Harley-Davidson which also happens to be > simultaneous double fire).
> So far, this arrangement seems to be functioning flawlessly. Just be sure to retime the engine on the "Hot" side to compensate for any possible delay in the electronics. I didn't experience any, but better to be sure.
> Good luck if you decide to give it a try.
> > On August 13, 2019 at 1:05 AM "tgm_enterprizes@... [anzhonda600owners]" > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com > > > wrote:
> > I have a pertronix igniter that is on a 600 advance plate. Its 1/2 the issue, the other piece to this is on the rotor. It has to be machined in order to mount the round piece that I think contains the magnets.
> > I only have one and I did a rough estimate of what I would need to get and if the pertronix igniter is used, it would end up being about $175. BUT, the system you really want is the pertronix igniter II (protected against you wiring it wrong and some other > > things) of course its more expensive, but if I was to make this, I would have to use the version 2 since I dont want to deal with someone blowing up the module and saying it was my fault.
> > I have 2 MSD 6AL boxes, how do you wire them up for the 600s?
> > P.s. on my website, you can scroll through the pictures I put on there and you will see that I use Accel super coil as my coil. It has 2 outputs and has the hottest spark of any coil you can get. Its like 80,000volts or more, (I am old and forget). It also > > had a gigantic effect on the engine starting and I havent had any high RPM miss since I put it on. I put it right where the old coil was (see picture).
> > Richard
> > Honda600Performance.com
Kurt
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Re: MSD BOX install [anzhonda600owners] New 600 performance parts we

Post by Kurt »

I too followed Marks video a couple years back and have had zero issues.  My car starts immediately now and is much more reliable and this is a big plus for me, Im not a engine guy.
Thanks again Mark
On Aug 13, 2019, at 8:05 AM, Mark P Hatten
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[anzhonda600owners] wrote:
Here is a video that I produced installing an MSD Box on my N 600
https://youtu.be/40T3uaKdCE0
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Tuesday, 13 August 2019, 07:36AM -07:00 from D & K Grandinett grandinett@...
[anzhonda600owners]
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
:
> Very simple really, but first I would go to the MSD website and download the "Installation Instructions" for the specific control module you have on-hand. In summary for the 6AL I installed-- Heavy Red goes to fuse block, Heavy Black to a good Body Ground, > Red from the (+) coil wire switched by the ignition key, White from the (-) coil wire switched by the points, Orange to the Positive (+) side of the new coil and Black to the Negative (-) side.
> Not only is the spark now much, much Hotter, but more importantly the points are now relieved of handling the relatively high coil current and only have to deal with a very small trigger current which allows them to function almost indefinitely at least > from an electrical point of view.
> Just for reference keep in mind that the Honda is a simultaneous fire engine ie both plugs fire together at the same time. I ended up using an "ACCEL 140406BK Dual Fire Black Super Coil" (a performance upgrade for Harley-Davidson which also happens to be > simultaneous double fire).
> So far, this arrangement seems to be functioning flawlessly. Just be sure to retime the engine on the "Hot" side to compensate for any possible delay in the electronics. I didn't experience any, but better to be sure.
> Good luck if you decide to give it a try.
> > On August 13, 2019 at 1:05 AM "
> > tgm_enterprizes@...
> > [anzhonda600owners]" > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > wrote:
> > I have a pertronix igniter that is on a 600 advance plate. Its 1/2 the issue, the other piece to this is on the rotor. It has to be machined in order to mount the round piece that I think contains the magnets.
> > I only have one and I did a rough estimate of what I would need to get and if the pertronix igniter is used, it would end up being about $175. BUT, the system you really want is the pertronix igniter II (protected against you wiring it wrong and some other > > things) of course its more expensive, but if I was to make this, I would have to use the version 2 since I dont want to deal with someone blowing up the module and saying it was my fault.
> > I have 2 MSD 6AL boxes, how do you wire them up for the 600s?
> > P.s. on my website, you can scroll through the pictures I put on there and you will see that I use Accel super coil as my coil. It has 2 outputs and has the hottest spark of any coil you can get. Its like 80,000volts or more, (I am old and forget). It also > > had a gigantic effect on the engine starting and I havent had any high RPM miss since I put it on. I put it right where the old coil was (see picture).
> > Richard
> > Honda600Performance.com
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