I was so excited to see this group! I have loved these little cars
since I saw the first one ten years ago or so. I used to see a very
nice maroon sedan at the Spot tavern in Vancouver, WA almost everyday
when I lived there. Unfortunately, I've never had the oppportunity
to own one. Hopefully that is about to change. But in order to get
one, I need it as a daily driver. Are there many people here who use
their Honda as a daily driver? Is it difficult with the shortage of
parts (not counting the obvious maintenance and repairs)?
Alan
Mcminnville, OR
Hello!
Re: Hello!
concours 100 point cars are the only way t go. driving a car like that is crazy......
marty
:)
marty
:)
Re: Hello!
--- In 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com, martykart@a... wrote:
> concours 100 point cars are the only way t go. driving a car like that is
> crazy......
> marty
> :) HuH? Are you ok?
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Re: Hello!
Hi Marty;
Where is this coming from? I have restored several Honda 600 Sedans and Coupes and none have been 100 point cars or a condition 1. A 100 point car is for all purposes new, all plastic is new, the rubber is new, all paint and chrome is new and this includes where you can't see it. All bolts, nuts, screws, buttons, labels and even the shift knob is new. When you remove the brake drum the hold down kit and shoes are new and the correct color. A nicely appointed car looking new 3 feet away is still only a condition 2 and most likely a high 3 car.
I have shown Honda 600's in Concours graded shows and took best in class but even that car was only a condition 2 (Old Car News and Market Place price guide code) I did not have all the plastic changed out, the tubes to the master cylinder were not green as original and the Dash was original (30 years old) Very nice, but showing wear. I drive it to and from shows and even on the occasional outing. And I am attaching a picture of it. If it was a 100 point car, then you are correct, it is no longer a car but a object of Art and should be displayed as such.
But Marty, they are to much fun to leave in the show room, I drive mine when ever I can. It keeps them alive.
Put some after market wheels on it and tweak in the carb and timing, and your set to have fun on the road.
Bill
Where is this coming from? I have restored several Honda 600 Sedans and Coupes and none have been 100 point cars or a condition 1. A 100 point car is for all purposes new, all plastic is new, the rubber is new, all paint and chrome is new and this includes where you can't see it. All bolts, nuts, screws, buttons, labels and even the shift knob is new. When you remove the brake drum the hold down kit and shoes are new and the correct color. A nicely appointed car looking new 3 feet away is still only a condition 2 and most likely a high 3 car.
I have shown Honda 600's in Concours graded shows and took best in class but even that car was only a condition 2 (Old Car News and Market Place price guide code) I did not have all the plastic changed out, the tubes to the master cylinder were not green as original and the Dash was original (30 years old) Very nice, but showing wear. I drive it to and from shows and even on the occasional outing. And I am attaching a picture of it. If it was a 100 point car, then you are correct, it is no longer a car but a object of Art and should be displayed as such.
But Marty, they are to much fun to leave in the show room, I drive mine when ever I can. It keeps them alive.
Put some after market wheels on it and tweak in the carb and timing, and your set to have fun on the road.
Bill
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Re: Hello!
I drive my 72 Z600 32 miles everyday commuting to work and I love it. Make sure you give the car the proper maintenance. I change the oil on my car every 3 weeks need it or not, and check the spark plugs. change the filter every 2000 miles.
Jose
Jose
Re: Hello!
i was just kidding.........
i always wanted 2 of everthing 1 to drive and one to stare at. like a toy buy one to play with and have another to just stare at and never take out of the wraper.
marty
i always wanted 2 of everthing 1 to drive and one to stare at. like a toy buy one to play with and have another to just stare at and never take out of the wraper.
marty
Re: Hello!
anyone ever seen the restoration work a guy named junior does? hes ben in a lot of car magazines and does like 70K paint jobs. his stuff is perfect. also the people on dream car garage opn speed channel do good. any of you seen any of thi s in person?
marty
marty
Alan's quest for a 600
Hi Alan
Like yourself I am a new to the group and have been lurking in the
background taking in all the expertise shown by some of the posters. I no
longer have a 600 but sold my coupe after 10 years of enjoyment back in
1986. My reason for joining the list is to find a home for 600 coupe power
unit with axles. 36K miles on it. It was running nicely when I replaced it.
Was worried about a noise in the engine which in reflection in rebuilding
the replacement I am sure was the cam chain tensioners being deficient.
You asked about using the 600 as a daily driver. Well it a Honda! But
you must remember that they are 30 years old and being a cheap car folks did
not spend much effort or money in maintenance. A 30 year old Rolls can give
you trouble. Can you do your own work? It was hard to find folks to work
on them back in the 70s and now you got to do it yourself unless you can
find another enthusiast that has extra time to work on yours.. HA HA... I
always liked the rear hatch on the Coupe. I hauled lots of weird stuff in
mine.
I have not taken the time to go thru previous posts but here are some of the
things that my lonely brain cells seem to remember. I always thought the
55 MPH speed limit saved a lot of 600s. At 55 it was happy. Maybe others
can expand on my experiences.
1. Ignition voltage could be better. I used a little CDI or transistor
unit that did wonders. Easier starting and the plugs would last longer.
2. The rubber bellows in the brake booster would not stay in place on the
moving plate and I had to spin out an aluminumn plate to help clamp the
bellows in place..
3. Fan I think I would now try to see about putting in a electric fan.
The serpentine belt is kind of a stop gap and it not elegant design for
which which Honda is noted.
4. Reverse gear is a itty bitty little thing that with its low mass it is
possible to engage when shifting down from 2 to 1st. I glued a magnet
inside that cover to collect all the little bits that get ground off...
While you may never have a problem others will if you loan your car out...
5. The Clutch pedal pressure is too much. Its to hard on you and the
clutch release cable. I made an attachment that revised the pivot point of
the release lever and while I had to use 90% of the pedal travel it was much
easier on everything. It was real simple and mounted on the cover in place
of the stock lever arm.
6. The spring loaded cam chain tensioner cartridge that is located below
the fan was modified by putting in a stop bolt thru it that would not allow
the tensioner to go in to the slack direction.. The tensioner would get
tighter automatically but not back up in the opposite direction... Oh I
am sure some one else has done the same thing and can explain it better.
7. Rear window/deck on the coupe had problems it that the plastic would
expand more then the glass in the sunshine and the seal would break. 4
little metal clips were installed to hold in the glass and silicone kept the
water out.
Well I am sure others will expand on what I recall and will give you more
encouragement. Its all in finding the right car to rebuild. Here on the
west coast we are not too familiar with rust so that is not the major
concern. Good luck in your search.
Wally Skyrman Central Point OR
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan
[mailto:iliveinatrailerpark@...]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 10:38 PM
To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Hello!
I was so excited to see this group! I have loved these little cars
since I saw the first one ten years ago or so. I used to see a very
nice maroon sedan at the Spot tavern in Vancouver, WA almost everyday
when I lived there. Unfortunately, I've never had the oppportunity
to own one. Hopefully that is about to change. But in order to get
one, I need it as a daily driver. Are there many people here who use
their Honda as a daily driver? Is it difficult with the shortage of
parts (not counting the obvious maintenance and repairs)?
Alan
Mcminnville, OR
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Like yourself I am a new to the group and have been lurking in the
background taking in all the expertise shown by some of the posters. I no
longer have a 600 but sold my coupe after 10 years of enjoyment back in
1986. My reason for joining the list is to find a home for 600 coupe power
unit with axles. 36K miles on it. It was running nicely when I replaced it.
Was worried about a noise in the engine which in reflection in rebuilding
the replacement I am sure was the cam chain tensioners being deficient.
You asked about using the 600 as a daily driver. Well it a Honda! But
you must remember that they are 30 years old and being a cheap car folks did
not spend much effort or money in maintenance. A 30 year old Rolls can give
you trouble. Can you do your own work? It was hard to find folks to work
on them back in the 70s and now you got to do it yourself unless you can
find another enthusiast that has extra time to work on yours.. HA HA... I
always liked the rear hatch on the Coupe. I hauled lots of weird stuff in
mine.
I have not taken the time to go thru previous posts but here are some of the
things that my lonely brain cells seem to remember. I always thought the
55 MPH speed limit saved a lot of 600s. At 55 it was happy. Maybe others
can expand on my experiences.
1. Ignition voltage could be better. I used a little CDI or transistor
unit that did wonders. Easier starting and the plugs would last longer.
2. The rubber bellows in the brake booster would not stay in place on the
moving plate and I had to spin out an aluminumn plate to help clamp the
bellows in place..
3. Fan I think I would now try to see about putting in a electric fan.
The serpentine belt is kind of a stop gap and it not elegant design for
which which Honda is noted.
4. Reverse gear is a itty bitty little thing that with its low mass it is
possible to engage when shifting down from 2 to 1st. I glued a magnet
inside that cover to collect all the little bits that get ground off...
While you may never have a problem others will if you loan your car out...
5. The Clutch pedal pressure is too much. Its to hard on you and the
clutch release cable. I made an attachment that revised the pivot point of
the release lever and while I had to use 90% of the pedal travel it was much
easier on everything. It was real simple and mounted on the cover in place
of the stock lever arm.
6. The spring loaded cam chain tensioner cartridge that is located below
the fan was modified by putting in a stop bolt thru it that would not allow
the tensioner to go in to the slack direction.. The tensioner would get
tighter automatically but not back up in the opposite direction... Oh I
am sure some one else has done the same thing and can explain it better.
7. Rear window/deck on the coupe had problems it that the plastic would
expand more then the glass in the sunshine and the seal would break. 4
little metal clips were installed to hold in the glass and silicone kept the
water out.
Well I am sure others will expand on what I recall and will give you more
encouragement. Its all in finding the right car to rebuild. Here on the
west coast we are not too familiar with rust so that is not the major
concern. Good luck in your search.
Wally Skyrman Central Point OR
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan
[mailto:iliveinatrailerpark@...]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 10:38 PM
To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Hello!
I was so excited to see this group! I have loved these little cars
since I saw the first one ten years ago or so. I used to see a very
nice maroon sedan at the Spot tavern in Vancouver, WA almost everyday
when I lived there. Unfortunately, I've never had the oppportunity
to own one. Hopefully that is about to change. But in order to get
one, I need it as a daily driver. Are there many people here who use
their Honda as a daily driver? Is it difficult with the shortage of
parts (not counting the obvious maintenance and repairs)?
Alan
Mcminnville, OR
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Re: Hello!
Thanks for the encouragement! Several years ago I looked for one but
got discouraged by the apparent lack of parts and support on the
internet. So, I got the next best thing- a 1976 Honda civic. Drove
that for several years, quite different than the 600 though. I have
found a couple 600's here in the Portland area for sale that I need
to follow up on. One more question: how is a non-synchro
transmission different in the way you operate the vehicle?
Alan
got discouraged by the apparent lack of parts and support on the
internet. So, I got the next best thing- a 1976 Honda civic. Drove
that for several years, quite different than the 600 though. I have
found a couple 600's here in the Portland area for sale that I need
to follow up on. One more question: how is a non-synchro
transmission different in the way you operate the vehicle?
Alan
Re: Hello!
Alan you are just reaching the folks wanting to sell. Put a want ad in the Nickel and you will find those that are not running but have not made it to the scrap yard. All coupes and the sedans built at the same time had synhro trannys. A Sychro gear set will fit in where a non sychro set was .. If memory serves me correctly. I still have the manuals and parts book for the coupe. Wally
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> Alan
>
> [mailto:iliveinatrailerpark@...]
> Sent:
> Saturday, January 11,
> 2003 5:54 PM
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Re: Hello!
> Thanks for the
> encouragement! Several years ago I looked for one but
> got
> discouraged by the apparent lack of parts and support on the
> internet. So, I got the next best thing- a 1976 Honda civic.
> Drove
> that for several years, quite different than the 600 though. I > have > found a couple 600's here in the Portland area for sale that I need
> to follow up on. One more question: how is a non-synchro
> transmission different in the way you operate the
> vehicle?
> Alan
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