Hi,
I was wondering how others here feel about the idea of using their
n600's as daily drivers?
anybody here doing it?
What are your thoughts
Jamie
n600 as a daily driver
Re: n600 as a daily driver
Well........I suppose it depends on the physical condition of the car..........and you, if you have to push it off the road !?
Personally, I'm of the opinion you need to keep these puppies moving. I take mine out at least once a week and basically look for an excuse to take it out anytime inbetween.
And though I do at times, I don't generally put myself in high pressure situations like rush hour traffic or travel to places where I absolutely have to be somewhere at any particular time.
I've had my 600 for 25 years, and with thanks to Mike O'Conner, it's been road worthy for the past 9 years.
Get in and DRIVE !!
Jamie wrote:
Personally, I'm of the opinion you need to keep these puppies moving. I take mine out at least once a week and basically look for an excuse to take it out anytime inbetween.
And though I do at times, I don't generally put myself in high pressure situations like rush hour traffic or travel to places where I absolutely have to be somewhere at any particular time.
I've had my 600 for 25 years, and with thanks to Mike O'Conner, it's been road worthy for the past 9 years.
Get in and DRIVE !!
Jamie wrote:
> Hi,
> I was wondering how others here feel about the idea of using their > n600's as daily drivers?
> anybody here doing it?
> What are your thoughts
> Jamie
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Re: n600 as a daily driver
--- In 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com, "Jamie"
wrote:
mostly because of safety.
Quite frankly, they just aren't up to the safety standards of modern
cars--no airbags, anti-lock brakes and the crash structures are just
not substantial enough to be able to take on collisions even against
other cars, let alone trucks and SUVs.
I think that getting t-boned by a Suburban would probably be fatal, or
at least serious injuries. Better off on a motorcycle (and I have
daily driven a motorcycle), frankly.
The risks are just as prevalent in part-time driving, but for me its a
numbers game. It is only a matter of time before you get in some sort
of accident. Just by odds and probability.
wrote:
I personally would not even consider using it as a daily driver,> Hi,
> I was wondering how others here feel about the idea of using their
> n600's as daily drivers?
> anybody here doing it?
mostly because of safety.
Quite frankly, they just aren't up to the safety standards of modern
cars--no airbags, anti-lock brakes and the crash structures are just
not substantial enough to be able to take on collisions even against
other cars, let alone trucks and SUVs.
I think that getting t-boned by a Suburban would probably be fatal, or
at least serious injuries. Better off on a motorcycle (and I have
daily driven a motorcycle), frankly.
The risks are just as prevalent in part-time driving, but for me its a
numbers game. It is only a matter of time before you get in some sort
of accident. Just by odds and probability.
Re: n600 as a daily driver
I appreciate and respect your views from the "safety" standpoint, but darn dude, what fun is there in owning a 600 you're afraid to drive?!....unless ofcourse you have a museum piece...
But I feel a little more secure having 4 wheels under my butt as opposed to 2........... (and I've done both) especially with the addition accessory lighting (to be seen), airhorn (to be heard) and a "HELMET" ......(little pun) and what my personalized license plate reads.
The only time I get uncomfortable in my Honda is doing 75 mph on I-485 around Charlotte, as I head to the race track, passing 18 wheelers going down a hill and watching their lugnuts as they pass me going up a hill.
Nonetheless, I think it depends on the definition of "daily driver" , driving/driver experience and and the situations inwhich you have to place youself should be a factor.
For me, daily driver means at any given time on any given day, I can get in and drive!
I can and I do, with the biggest consideration being laid against just racking up more miles on the odometer (currently 46k).
And I believe most any 360/600 mechanic worth his salt will tell ya.......
ya gotta keep these puppies movin' !
kristoferdahl wrote:
But I feel a little more secure having 4 wheels under my butt as opposed to 2........... (and I've done both) especially with the addition accessory lighting (to be seen), airhorn (to be heard) and a "HELMET" ......(little pun) and what my personalized license plate reads.
The only time I get uncomfortable in my Honda is doing 75 mph on I-485 around Charlotte, as I head to the race track, passing 18 wheelers going down a hill and watching their lugnuts as they pass me going up a hill.
Nonetheless, I think it depends on the definition of "daily driver" , driving/driver experience and and the situations inwhich you have to place youself should be a factor.
For me, daily driver means at any given time on any given day, I can get in and drive!
I can and I do, with the biggest consideration being laid against just racking up more miles on the odometer (currently 46k).
And I believe most any 360/600 mechanic worth his salt will tell ya.......
ya gotta keep these puppies movin' !
kristoferdahl wrote:
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> , "Jamie"
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I was
> wondering how others here feel about the idea of using their > > n600's as daily drivers?
> > anybody here doing it?
> I personally would not even consider using it as a daily driver, > mostly because of safety.
> Quite frankly, they just aren't up to the safety standards of modern > cars--no airbags, anti-lock brakes and the crash structures are just > not substantial enough to be able to take on collisions even against > other cars, let alone trucks and SUVs.
> I think that getting t-boned by a Suburban would probably be fatal, or > at least serious injuries. Better off on a motorcycle (and I have > daily driven a motorcycle), frankly.
> The risks are just as prevalent in part-time driving, but for me its a > numbers game. It is only a matter of time before you get in some sort > of accident. Just by odds and probability.
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Re: n600 as a daily driver
Hi Jamie,
If you enjoy driving your Honda 600 and want to use it as a daily driver, go for it.
I was using one of my Honda 600's as a frequent driver until about 5 years ago. Now I only drive it when I feel like it because
a) it requires more upkeep/maintenance than a newer car
b) my supply of parts is dwindling and replacement parts are more difficult to find
c) the cost per mile to operate is higher than a newer car
d) the tailpipe emissions on these older cars was pretty bad compared to newer cars
e) it doesn't have the reliability of many of the newer cars
f) in the winter time and cold climates, the defroster doesn't work as well as a newer car
g) it doesn't have the performance of a newer car (mainly an issue when climbing hills or going at high speeds on the freeway).
h) I was afraid of getting it damaged during the winter time. I live in Oregon and the roads get a layer of gravel during winter snow/ice conditions. Any car I am driving during the winter months will see some type of damage from the gravel striking the paint and windows. I prefer to not damage the Honda 600.
Now, if I were like Jay Leno and had the money to afford a staff of full time mechanics, parts, and cars, I would be driving all kinds of interesting vehicles. I think the only new car which would interest me would be the Tesla and the Lotus Exige (or Elise).
Keep driving your Honda 600 as long as it is enjoyable,
Dale
Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.
If you enjoy driving your Honda 600 and want to use it as a daily driver, go for it.
I was using one of my Honda 600's as a frequent driver until about 5 years ago. Now I only drive it when I feel like it because
a) it requires more upkeep/maintenance than a newer car
b) my supply of parts is dwindling and replacement parts are more difficult to find
c) the cost per mile to operate is higher than a newer car
d) the tailpipe emissions on these older cars was pretty bad compared to newer cars
e) it doesn't have the reliability of many of the newer cars
f) in the winter time and cold climates, the defroster doesn't work as well as a newer car
g) it doesn't have the performance of a newer car (mainly an issue when climbing hills or going at high speeds on the freeway).
h) I was afraid of getting it damaged during the winter time. I live in Oregon and the roads get a layer of gravel during winter snow/ice conditions. Any car I am driving during the winter months will see some type of damage from the gravel striking the paint and windows. I prefer to not damage the Honda 600.
Now, if I were like Jay Leno and had the money to afford a staff of full time mechanics, parts, and cars, I would be driving all kinds of interesting vehicles. I think the only new car which would interest me would be the Tesla and the Lotus Exige (or Elise).
Keep driving your Honda 600 as long as it is enjoyable,
Dale
Start the year off right.> I was
> wondering how others here feel about the idea of using their > n600's as > daily drivers?
> anybody here doing it?
Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.
Re: n600 as a daily driver
It is the only car I own.We love it.Ours has been shorten 28".About every time we take it to a car show we get a trophy.
Start the year off right.
Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.
Start the year off right.
Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.
Re: n600 as a daily driver
kristoferdahl Heck, half the cars coming from the boarder are not safe either and neither is the driver with the cell phone screwed into their ear. 80% of safety is the driver regardless of the car. I have bounced off guard rails, flipped and banged up Honda 600's and never a scratch. If the New Cars with all their gadgetry are still getting in accidents and people dieing, then their new safety fetchers didn't help. I drive my AN600 at freeway speeds any day or time of the week. I have a 132DB horn and use it frequently to alert the unconscious drivers around me that I am using the freeway too. But, I don't put myself in situations I can't get out of. And, I keep my Honda 600 in top shape and drive defensively or is that aggressively. Maintain the proper speed and you will always have a safe trip.
Bill
Bill
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> [mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of
> kristoferdahl
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> [2cylinderhondas] Re: n600 as a daily driver
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> ,
> "Jamie"
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> I was wondering how others here feel about the idea of using their
> n600's as daily drivers?
> > anybody here doing it?
> I
> personally would not even consider using it as a daily driver, > mostly > because of safety.
> Quite frankly, they just aren't up to the safety
> standards of modern
> cars--no airbags, anti-lock brakes and the crash
> structures are just
> not substantial enough to be able to take on collisions
> even against
> other cars, let alone trucks and SUVs.
> I think that
> getting t-boned by a Suburban would probably be fatal, or > at least serious > injuries. Better off on a motorcycle (and I have > daily driven a > motorcycle), frankly.
> The risks are just as prevalent in part-time
> driving, but for me its a
> numbers game. It is only a matter of time before
> you get in some sort
> of accident. Just by odds and
> probability.
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Re: n600 as a daily driver
Bill makes some good points here.
My wife drives our Sedan to work every day, though its only 3 miles, urban roads. Its safer than a bike or a motorcycle, but probably would lose to the average sedan... which would lose to the average SUV... which would lose to the average pickup... which would lose to the city's 2 ton dump trucks.
So we should all be driving 18 wheelers?!!
You've got to draw the line somewhere and keep things in perspective. I choose cars for economic transportation first, environmental impact second, and safety third. The best way to beat the accident statistics is to drive less... but few of us would choose that.
Tom
---- Original Message -----
My wife drives our Sedan to work every day, though its only 3 miles, urban roads. Its safer than a bike or a motorcycle, but probably would lose to the average sedan... which would lose to the average SUV... which would lose to the average pickup... which would lose to the city's 2 ton dump trucks.
So we should all be driving 18 wheelers?!!
You've got to draw the line somewhere and keep things in perspective. I choose cars for economic transportation first, environmental impact second, and safety third. The best way to beat the accident statistics is to drive less... but few of us would choose that.
Tom
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> Subject:
> RE: [2cylinderhondas] Re: n600
> as a daily driver
> kristoferdahl
> Heck, half the cars coming
> from the boarder are not safe either and neither is the driver with the cell > phone screwed into their ear. 80% of safety is the driver regardless of > the car. I have bounced off guard rails, flipped and banged up Honda > 600's and never a scratch. If the New Cars with all their gadgetry are > still getting in accidents and people dieing, then their new safety > fetchers didn't help. I drive my AN600 at freeway > speeds any day or time of the week. I have a 132DB horn and > use it frequently to alert the unconscious drivers around me that I am using > the freeway too. But, I don't put myself in situations I can't get > out of. And, I keep my Honda 600 in top shape and drive defensively or > is that aggressively. Maintain the proper speed and you will always have > a safe trip.
> Bill
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> > From:
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> > [mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of
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> > Sent:
> > Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:56
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> > To:
> > 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:
> > [2cylinderhondas] Re: n600 as a daily driver
> > --- In
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > ,
> > "Jamie"
> > wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I was wondering how others here feel about the idea of using > > their > > > n600's as daily drivers?
> > > anybody here doing
> > it?
> > I personally would not even consider using it as a daily > > driver, > > mostly because of safety.
> > Quite frankly, they just aren't
> > up to the safety standards of modern
> > cars--no airbags, anti-lock brakes
> > and the crash structures are just
> > not substantial enough to be able to
> > take on collisions even against
> > other cars, let alone trucks and
> > SUVs.
> > I think that getting t-boned by a Suburban would probably be > > fatal, or > > at least serious injuries. Better off on a motorcycle (and I > > have > > daily driven a motorcycle), frankly.
> > The risks are just as
> > prevalent in part-time driving, but for me its a
> > numbers game. It is only
> > a matter of time before you get in some sort
> > of accident. Just by odds
> > and probability.
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Re: n600 as a daily driver
billmyong@... wrote:
living carries zero risk. Seriously, I don't care about ABS or airbags,
but I know how much sheet metal there is in a 600 and I can tell you
that I wouldn't want to hit anything. Having owned CVCCs, EG Civics,
and now a 600, I have some ground to base my observations on. I
wouldn't want to hit ANYTHING in a 600, and I wouldn't want ANYTHING to
hit me while I'm in it. There are no crumple zones and no impact
beams. Nothing in the way of a passenger compartment 'safety cell'.
The thing would buckle and there would be severe passenger compartment
intrusion in even a minor hit.
Having said that, I sure as heck wouldn't let the car sit and never
drive it on the roads. Making a conscious decision to drive a great old
car is what it boils down to, but you guys are making it seem like the
600 is somehow 'safe' or 'modern' in terms of crash safety. Further,
some of you assume that all of the technology that has gone into crash
safety is bogus. You couldn't be further from the truth. I love me a
600, don't get me wrong. But as a daily driver? You're kidding
yourself if you think you are as safe in a 600 as you are in a mid 90s
Civic.
-Matt
How can you say 'always'? That's like saying that driving or even> kristoferdahl
> Heck, half the cars coming from the boarder are not safe either and
> neither is the driver with the cell phone screwed into their ear. 80%
> of safety is the driver regardless of the car. I have bounced off
> guard rails, flipped and banged up Honda 600's and never a scratch.
> If the New Cars with all their gadgetry are still getting in
> accidents and people dieing, then their new safety fetchers didn't
> help. I drive my AN600 at freeway speeds any day or time of the
> week. I have a 132DB horn and use it frequently to alert the
> unconscious drivers around me that I am using the freeway too. But,
> I don't put myself in situations I can't get out of. And, I keep my
> Honda 600 in top shape and drive defensively or is that aggressively.
> Maintain the proper speed and you will always have a safe trip.
> Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:*
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
]*On Behalf Of *kristoferdahl
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:56 AM
> *To:*
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [2cylinderhondas] Re: n600 as a daily driver
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> , "Jamie"
>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I was wondering how others here feel about the idea of using their
> > n600's as daily drivers?
> > anybody here doing it?
> I personally would not even consider using it as a daily driver,
> mostly because of safety.
> Quite frankly, they just aren't up to the safety standards of modern
> cars--no airbags, anti-lock brakes and the crash structures are just
> not substantial enough to be able to take on collisions even against
> other cars, let alone trucks and SUVs.
> I think that getting t-boned by a Suburban would probably be fatal, or
> at least serious injuries. Better off on a motorcycle (and I have
> daily driven a motorcycle), frankly.
> The risks are just as prevalent in part-time driving, but for me its a
> numbers game. It is only a matter of time before you get in some sort
> of accident. Just by odds and probability.
living carries zero risk. Seriously, I don't care about ABS or airbags,
but I know how much sheet metal there is in a 600 and I can tell you
that I wouldn't want to hit anything. Having owned CVCCs, EG Civics,
and now a 600, I have some ground to base my observations on. I
wouldn't want to hit ANYTHING in a 600, and I wouldn't want ANYTHING to
hit me while I'm in it. There are no crumple zones and no impact
beams. Nothing in the way of a passenger compartment 'safety cell'.
The thing would buckle and there would be severe passenger compartment
intrusion in even a minor hit.
Having said that, I sure as heck wouldn't let the car sit and never
drive it on the roads. Making a conscious decision to drive a great old
car is what it boils down to, but you guys are making it seem like the
600 is somehow 'safe' or 'modern' in terms of crash safety. Further,
some of you assume that all of the technology that has gone into crash
safety is bogus. You couldn't be further from the truth. I love me a
600, don't get me wrong. But as a daily driver? You're kidding
yourself if you think you are as safe in a 600 as you are in a mid 90s
Civic.
-Matt