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juniselect
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your help is needed

Post by juniselect »

recently i picked up a '71 an600 with the idea that it would be a
project. I am trying to figure out what is wrong with the motor. it
starts but is really loud with a knock, slap, pop, and all other
sounds that would entail starting a journey of outdated and
discontinued parts. However, I am within the midst of experts with
this yahoo group. So, if you can please let me know what you're
thinking after viewing this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sjZKYWEsOs
thanks
also, i have a blog on the whole process:
sfn600.blogspot.com
please help to get this guy back on the road to cruise the streets of
san francisco!
mterrens
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Re: your help is needed

Post by mterrens »

There are others with much more mechanical know-how here, but I can pretty safely say - don't run that car again until you address the timing and the timing chain!  A valve embedded in a piston is not fun at all.
See my website for all the manuals...
Steve
www.honda600coupe.com
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> recently i picked up a '71 an600 with the idea that it would be > a > project. I am trying to figure out what is wrong with the motor.
> it
> starts but is really loud with a knock, slap, pop, and all > other > sounds that would entail starting a journey of outdated > and > discontinued parts. However, I am within the midst of experts > with > this yahoo group. So, if you can please let me know what > you're > thinking after viewing this video:
> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=4sjZKYWEsOs
> thanks
> also,
> i have a blog on the whole process:
> sfn600.blogspot. com
> please
> help to get this guy back on the road to cruise the streets of > san > francisco!
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kristoferdahl
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Re: your help is needed

Post by kristoferdahl »

From my experience on other cars, this sounds like a spun rod bearing.
I suppose it could also be valve-to-piston contact.
Either way it isn't good, you're either risking (further) damage to
the rods/crank or bending valves.
Stephen V. Weaver Jr.
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Re: your help is needed

Post by Stephen V. Weaver Jr. »

I believe these are roller bearing rods - like a Harley. There is a
complete crank with rods available on E-bay now. Engine disassembly
will be necessary. Be sure to check oil pump while you are at it.
Juni Select
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Re: your help is needed

Post by Juni Select »

Can you submit the link to eBay, I tried searching but couldn't find it.
Thanks Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 26, 2008, at 2:02 PM, "Stephen V. Weaver Jr." wrote:
I believe these are roller bearing rods - like a Harley. There is a
complete crank with rods available on E-bay now. Engine disassembly
will be necessary. Be sure to check oil pump while you are at it.
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, "kristoferdahl"
wrote:
> From my experience on other cars, this sounds like a spun rod bearing.
> I suppose it could also be valve-to-piston contact.
> Either way it isn't good, you're either risking (further) damage to
> the rods/crank or bending valves.
mterrens
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Re: your help is needed

Post by mterrens »

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid ... crankshaft
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> > I believe these are roller bearing rods - like a Harley. There is a
> > complete crank with rods available on E-bay now. Engine disassembly
> > will be necessary. Be sure to check oil pump while you are at > > it.
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> > experience on other cars, this sounds like a spun rod bearing.
> > > I suppose it could also be valve-to-piston contact.
> > > Either way it isn't good, you're either risking (further) damage > > to > > > the rods/crank or bending valves.
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fedweezee
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Re: your help is needed

Post by fedweezee »

did that "woodgrain" dash come with the car stock???? where can i
find one like that?
Juni Select
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Re: your help is needed

Post by Juni Select »

to the best of my knowledge the woodgrain is stock, however, i recently picked this car up and it has had 3 previous owners.  i think it is stock because it has all the emblems and is a perfect fit with the dash.  let us know people if you have seen this before.  next time i'm at the car i will get some hi res pics of the dash!
-thanks marty From:
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Monday, October 27, 2008 12:22:28 AM Subject:
[2cylinderhondas] Re: your help is needed
did that "woodgrain" dash come with the car stock???? where can i
find one like that?
Love
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Joined: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:10 am

Re: your help is needed

Post by Love »

The gauges are from a coupe, and so therefore is the camshaft.  It's nicely done, but it didn't come from Japan like that.  At least one dealer (Robertson Honda) did custom interiors on new cars.
Back to the engine, possibilities are valves need adjustment, cam chain has slipped or is stretched, and/or the crank is going (or all the above).  Have you done a compression test? How much?
Bruce D.
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to the best of my knowledge the woodgrain is stock, however, i recently picked this car up and it has had 3 previous owners.  i think it is stock because it has all the emblems and is a perfect fit with the dash.  let us know people if you have seen this before.  next time i'm at the car i will get some hi res pics of the dash!
-thanks marty From:
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Monday, October 27, 2008 12:22:28 AM Subject:
[2cylinderhondas] Re: your help is needed
did that "woodgrain" dash come with the car stock???? where can i
find one like that?
Miles
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Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2003 5:32 pm

Re: your sedan is broken

Post by Miles »

That looks like the one my friend Mike H. made. The USA sedan did not
come with a tach. The stock woodgrained dash was stick on vinyl from
what it looks like in the manuals.
I posted a comment on your YouTube site. It says basically, Turn it
off ! Don't turn it on again until you fix it or plan on buying a set
of cases and a set of cylinders. Because when it throws the rod, it
will bust through the cases and break the bottom of the cylinder.
I think I already offered you the engine from my sedan or my complete
sedan for $2500, current tags, newer tires, drive it anywhere.
Miles
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