Re: [2cylinderhondas] idling, hot start problem

[Lyle]

Hi Neil;
Truth about the Fuel solenoid as Honda calls it, is it's a fuel stop valve.
It interrupts the flow of fuel in the idle circuit which causes the car from
after ignition spark. If it's not working and your car is still idling then
it's most likely not idling at the correct RPMs. Which is most likely
causing overheating and maybe even some vacuum problems. And, when your
engine compartment gets really hot, you can even experience vapor Lock.
If you still have problems, clean your carb, and you don't need a
compressor to do it. A can of carb cleaner and caned air should clean most
all your ducts. Also, do a compression test. Check your air filter for
obstruction and see if oil is being pushed through the breather tube.
Remember, both pistons are up at the same time, if the rings are poor, they
could allow pressure past the rings into the engine and push the oil up into
the valve area and into the air box and foul the filter.
But as Marshall has already said, try timing it first. Correct the
solenoid problem and while adjusting your points check the breaker plate
(where the points are attached to).

[dustyspath]

Hi Bill & Neil;
That reminded me about the ignition points: if you forget to put the washer on any of the screws that hold the points down, the breaker plate will get the point of the screw to hold it in place and no longer give the vacuum advance/retard effect.
Marshall
Bill Colford wrote:

> Hi Neil;
>       Truth about the Fuel solenoid as Honda calls it, is it's a fuel stop valve.
> It interrupts the flow of fuel in the idle circuit which causes the car from > after ignition spark.  If it's not working and your car is still idling then > it's most likely not idling at the correct RPMs.  Which is most likely > causing overheating and maybe even some vacuum problems.  And, when your > engine compartment gets really hot, you can even experience vapor Lock.
>       If you still have problems, clean your carb, and you don't need a > compressor to do it.  A can of carb cleaner and caned air should clean most > all your ducts.  Also, do a compression test.  Check your air filter for > obstruction and see if oil is being pushed through the breather tube.
> Remember, both pistons are
> up at the same time, if the rings are poor, they
> could allow pressure past the rings into the engine and push the oil up into > the valve area and into the air box and foul the filter.
>       But as Marshall has already said, try timing it first.  Correct the > solenoid problem and while adjusting your points check the breaker plate > (where the points are attached to).
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 6:00 AM
> To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] idling, hot start problem
> My 72 sedan runs great but when idling at a stop light it wants > to "load up" and die.  Also, after parking the car and then attempting > a restart minutes later, it is very hard to start.  The idling > solenoid on the side of the carb no longer works but it was > my > understanding that this comes into play only when shutting the car off > as it prevents excess fuel from entering the engine.  Any ideas?
> Thanks,
> Neil

[dealadayray]

Yea, but, the real issue here is the top plate being warn to the extent it will not hold the .016 needed to maintain best performance.  I have an article in the ANZhonda600owners Yahoo groups page on how to fix it.
Bill Colford

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Marshall Montchalin
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> Sent:
> 6/5/2005 8:03:37 AM
> Subject:
> RE: [2cylinderhondas] idling, hot start problem
> Hi Bill & Neil;
> That reminded me about the ignition points: if you forget to put the washer on any of the screws that hold the points down, the breaker plate will get the point of the screw to hold it in place and no longer give the vacuum advance/retard effect.
> Marshall
> Bill Colford
> wrote:
> > Hi Neil;
> >       Truth about the Fuel solenoid as Honda calls it, is it's a fuel stop valve.
> > It interrupts the flow of fuel in the idle circuit which causes the car from > > after ignition spark.  If it's not working and your car is still idling then > > it's most likely not idling at the correct RPMs.  Which is most likely > > causing overheating and maybe even some vacuum problems.  And, when your > > engine compartment gets really hot, you can even experience vapor Lock.
> >       If you still have problems, clean your carb, and you don't need a > > compressor to do it.  A can of carb cleaner and caned air should clean most > > all your ducts.  Also, do a compression test.  Check your air filter for > > obstruction and see if oil is being pushed through the breather tube.
> > Remember, both pistons are up at the same time, if the rings are poor, they > > could allow pressure past the rings into the engine and push the oil up into > > the valve area and into the air box and foul the filter.
> >       But as Marshall has already said, try timing it first.  Correct the > > solenoid problem and while adjusting your points check the breaker plate > > (where the points are attached to).
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil > > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 6:00 AM > > To: 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] idling, hot start problem > > My 72 sedan runs great but when idling at a stop light it wants > > to "load up" and die.  Also, after parking the car and then attempting > > a restart minutes later, it is very hard to start.  The idling > > solenoid on the side of the carb no longer works but it was my > > understanding that this comes into play only when shutting the car off > > as it prevents excess fuel from entering the engine.  Any ideas?
> > Thanks,
> > Neil