Modifications / Accessories

baldwin_elias · Post by **baldwin_elias** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:08 am

Out of curiosity, does anyone have any history on dealer or aftermarket modifications or accessories for the 600 coupe? I recently purchased a z600 that has different wheels, steering wheel, and striping than my other coupe. Limited research reveals that the wheels are "Pos-A-Traction," but I have no idea on the steering wheel (which has the Honda emblem) or the striping. I'm assuming modifications were common, as a period article noted "the Honda costs so little, most buyers have money left over they don't know what to do with." This new-to-me coupe originally hails from California, I believe. Any information on what was available back in the day for these cars would be appreciated.

STEVEN · Post by **STEVEN** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:55 pm

I heard there was a automatic transmission released,
I remember as a 15 year old kid way back, a "Levis Strauss" edition. it was Pop Orange and the blue Levis interior with orange stiching and the little red Levis tags on the seats.
I heard there was a Seattle "Seahawk" edition ??
On N.A.D.A. blue book it lists the Positraction wheels you have, a special steering wheel and gearshift knob as options.
Steve in Arizona

--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "baldwin_elias" wrote:
> Out of curiosity, does anyone have any history on dealer or aftermarket modifications or accessories for the 600 coupe? I recently purchased a z600 that has different wheels, steering wheel, and striping than my other coupe. Limited research reveals that the wheels are "Pos-A-Traction," but I have no idea on the steering wheel (which has the Honda emblem) or the striping. I'm assuming modifications were common, as a period article noted "the Honda costs so little, most buyers have money left over they don't know what to do with." This new-to-me coupe originally hails from California, I believe. Any information on what was available back in the day for these cars would be appreciated.

Victor L. Hernandez · Post by **Victor L. Hernandez** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:04 pm

If anybody has tht Levi's edition please post pictures!
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 2, 2012, at 4:55 PM, "Steven" wrote:
I heard there was a automatic transmission released,
I remember as a 15 year old kid way back, a "Levis Strauss" edition. it was Pop Orange and the blue Levis interior with orange stiching and the little red Levis tags on the seats.
I heard there was a Seattle "Seahawk" edition ??
On N.A.D.A. blue book it lists the Positraction wheels you have, a special steering wheel and gearshift knob as options.
Steve in Arizona
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "baldwin_elias" wrote:
> Out of curiosity, does anyone have any history on dealer or aftermarket modifications or accessories for the 600 coupe? I recently purchased a z600 that has different wheels, steering wheel, and striping than my other coupe. Limited research reveals that the wheels are "Pos-A-Traction," but I have no idea on the steering wheel (which has the Honda emblem) or the striping. I'm assuming modifications were common, as a period article noted "the Honda costs so little, most buyers have money left over they don't know what to do with." This new-to-me coupe originally hails from California, I believe. Any information on what was available back in the day for these cars would be appreciated.

Love · Post by **Love** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:59 pm

I'm gonna call bs on that. The AMC Gremlin had a Levi Strauss edition. Proof is here:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=739237
The automatic was not sold in the US, except for a hadfull of evaluation cars (Bill C. has one). The number 6 sticks in my mind.
Many dealers added stuff (pinstripping, vinyl top, mag wheels) to improve proffit. They all sourced their own stuff, so there isn't a list of aftermarket accessories. To find a listing of official stuff, search the archive for my prior post (either this group, or the other one, I forget).
I have photos of the 'Rembrandt' edition. Likely a one dealership release (Robertson in L.A.). The extra value in owning it... zilch.
Bruce D.
Santa Clara, CA
From:
Victor L. Hernandez To:
"anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com" Sent:
Sat, June 2, 2012 3:06:54 PM Subject:
Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Modifications / Accessories
If anybody has tht Levi's edition please post pictures!
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 2, 2012, at 4:55 PM, "Steven" wrote:
I heard there was a automatic transmission released,
I remember as a 15 year old kid way back, a "Levis Strauss" edition. it was Pop Orange and the blue Levis interior with orange stiching and the little red Levis tags on the seats.
I heard there was a Seattle "Seahawk" edition ??
On N.A.D.A. blue book it lists the Positraction wheels you have, a special steering wheel and gearshift knob as options.
Steve in Arizona
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "baldwin_elias" wrote:
> Out of curiosity, does anyone have any history on dealer or aftermarket modifications or accessories for the 600 coupe? I recently purchased a z600 that has different wheels, steering wheel, and striping than my other coupe. Limited research reveals that the wheels are "Pos-A-Traction," but I have no idea on the steering wheel (which has the Honda emblem) or the striping. I'm assuming modifications were common, as a period article noted "the Honda costs so little, most buyers have money left over they don't know what to do with." This new-to-me coupe originally hails from California, I believe. Any information on what was available back in the day for these cars would be appreciated.

friend · Post by **friend** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:09 pm

�
Bruce Dewing is correct on the interior as I have found no such option. On the rims, the aluminum wheels that were offered at Honda Dealerships were the Shelby (3.5 in width) and Pos-a-traction (5 in width), there were all kinds of others some had 7in width for the rear and 5in width for the front. The wood steering wheel and shift knob were a Coupe only item (that I know of) that was authorized as a dealer option. Honda had a side accent strip for the Coupe that is listed in a Honda Coupe parts manual along with a roof rack and sliding cloth top for the Sedan. The Sedan also had split rear seats and grab handles to assist rear passengers getting out of the rear seat. There were also door sill plates for the Coupe much like the Sedan and aluminum kick plates for the bottom of the Sedan doors. There is also a GT potion for the Sedan that was not available in the US. It came with a wood laminate for the dash and a shift counsel, which were shown in the Shop Manual.
An early brochure for the USA had a Hondamatic but with extensive testing and the EPA pulling the plug on the 45hp version of the engine none were sold in the USA. Reportedly there were 5 test Hondamatics, and there is a story about these cars being turned over to the spouses of the top brass but nothing in writing. And it's important to note that in the list of repair parts authorized for new Honda 600 dealerships no Hondamatic parts or special tools were listed.
If you could get the local dealer to order parts offered in other countries such as the right door rear view mirror, rear mud flaps, pop-up radio antenna, electronic tach for the Sedan along with an assortment of badges to go on the trunk and side panels then you had them for your Honda 600. Back before Honda of America split from Honda of Japan many of these items could be ordered from Honda of Japan to include all the parts to make your 36hp engine into a 45hp unit.
So to come back to the original question, does it add to the value? Not unless you have documentation that it is a Honda factory authorized option.
Then, that item like the Pos-a-traction rims and the wood steering wheel with the wood shift knob, come into the mix. Look at it this way, the items would have to pass a judged event with the documentation proving that the item in question is a factory option and not after market. Proof would be a new car window sticker or sales receipt showing options that came with the vehicle. Or a parts manual listing it as an available option.
Bill

> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Bruce
> Dewing
> Sent:
> Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:00 PM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re: [anzhonda600owners]
> Re: Modifications / Accessories
> I'm gonna call bs on that. The AMC Gremlin had a Levi Strauss > edition. Proof is here:
> http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=739237
> The automatic was not sold in the US, except for a hadfull of evaluation > cars (Bill C. has one). The number 6 sticks in my mind.
> Many dealers added stuff (pinstripping, vinyl top, mag wheels) to improve > proffit. They all sourced their own stuff, so there isn't a list of > aftermarket accessories. To find a listing of official stuff, search the > archive for my prior post (either this group, or the other one, I > forget).
> I have photos of the 'Rembrandt' edition. Likely a one dealership > release (Robertson in L.A.). The extra value in owning it...
> zilch.
> Bruce D.
> Santa Clara, CA
> From:
> Victor L. Hernandez
>
> To:
> "anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com"
>
> Sent:
> Sat, June 2, 2012 3:06:54
> PM
> Subject:
> Re:
> [anzhonda600owners] Re: Modifications /
> Accessories
> If anybody has tht Levi's edition please post pictures!
> Sent from
> my iPhone
> On Jun 2, 2012, at 4:55 PM, "Steven" stevenginter@...
> wrote:
> > I heard there was a automatic transmission released,
> > I remember as a
> > 15 year old kid way back, a "Levis Strauss" edition. it was Pop Orange and > > the blue Levis interior with orange stiching and the little red Levis tags > > on the seats.
> > I heard there was a Seattle "Seahawk" edition ??
> > On
> > N.A.D.A. blue book it lists the Positraction wheels you have, a special > > steering wheel and gearshift knob as options.
> > Steve in Arizona
> > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > ,
> > "baldwin_elias" wrote:
> > > Out of
> > curiosity, does anyone have any history on dealer or aftermarket > > modifications or accessories for the 600 coupe? I recently purchased a z600 > > that has different wheels, steering wheel, and striping than my other coupe.
> > Limited research reveals that the wheels are "Pos-A-Traction," but I have no > > idea on the steering wheel (which has the Honda emblem) or the striping. I'm > > assuming modifications were common, as a period article noted "the Honda > > costs so little, most buyers have money left over they don't know what to do > > with." This new-to-me coupe originally hails from California, I believe. Any > > information on what was available back in the day for these cars would be > > appreciated.

Victor L. Hernandez · Post by **Victor L. Hernandez** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:27 pm

Oh well, we all fused memories from back in the day. Good pictures.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 2, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Bruce Dewing wrote:
I'm gonna call bs on that. The AMC Gremlin had a Levi Strauss edition. Proof is here:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=739237
The automatic was not sold in the US, except for a hadfull of evaluation cars (Bill C. has one). The number 6 sticks in my mind.
Many dealers added stuff (pinstripping, vinyl top, mag wheels) to improve proffit. They all sourced their own stuff, so there isn't a list of aftermarket accessories. To find a listing of official stuff, search the archive for my prior post (either this group, or the other one, I forget).
I have photos of the 'Rembrandt' edition. Likely a one dealership release (Robertson in L.A.). The extra value in owning it... zilch.
Bruce D.
Santa Clara, CA
From:
Victor L. Hernandez wrote:
> I heard there was a automatic transmission released,
> I remember as a 15 year old kid way back, a "Levis Strauss" edition. it was Pop Orange and the blue Levis interior with orange stiching and the little red Levis tags on the seats.
> I heard there was a Seattle "Seahawk" edition ??
> On N.A.D.A. blue book it lists the Positraction wheels you have, a special steering wheel and gearshift knob as options.
> Steve in Arizona
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> , "baldwin_elias" wrote:
> > Out of curiosity, does anyone have any history on dealer or aftermarket modifications or accessories for the 600 coupe? I recently purchased a z600 that has different wheels, steering wheel, and striping than my other coupe. Limited research reveals that the wheels are "Pos-A-Traction," > but I have no idea on the steering wheel (which has the Honda emblem) or the striping. I'm assuming modifications were common, as a period article noted "the Honda costs so little, most buyers have money left over they don't know what to do with." This new-to-me coupe originally hails from California, I believe. Any information on what was available back in the day for these cars would be appreciated.

Harry Lineback · Post by **Harry Lineback** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:30 pm

Mr Bill
You ALWAYS write such interesting answers to the questions.
My warmest regards to & the Lady.
Have not been well -- pinched nerve in the spine. But I am getting better.
Harry Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 2, 2012, at 18:07, wrote:
�
Bruce
Dewing is correct on the interior as I have found no such option. On the rims, the aluminum wheels that were offered at Honda Dealerships were the Shelby (3.5 in width) and Pos-a-traction (5 in width), there were all kinds of others some had 7in width for the rear and 5in width for the front. The wood steering wheel and shift knob were a Coupe only item (that I know of) that was authorized as a dealer option. Honda had a side accent strip for the Coupe that is listed in a Honda Coupe parts manual along with a roof rack and sliding cloth top for the Sedan. The Sedan also had split rear seats and grab handles to assist rear passengers getting out of the rear seat. There were also door sill plates for the Coupe much like the Sedan and aluminum kick plates for the bottom of the Sedan doors. There is also a GT potion for the Sedan that was not available in the US. It came with a wood laminate for the dash and a shift counsel, which were shown in the Shop Manual.
An
early brochure for the USA had a Hondamatic but with extensive testing and the EPA pulling the plug on the 45hp version of the engine none were sold in the USA. Reportedly there were 5 test Hondamatics, and there is a story about these cars being turned over to the spouses of the top brass but nothing in writing. And it's important to note that in the list of repair parts authorized for new Honda 600 dealerships no Hondamatic parts or special tools were listed.
If you
could get the local dealer to order parts offered in other countries such as the right door rear view mirror, rear mud flaps, pop-up radio antenna, electronic tach for the Sedan along with an assortment of badges to go on the trunk and side panels then you had them for your Honda 600. Back before Honda of America split from Honda of Japan many of these items could be ordered from Honda of Japan to include all the parts to make your 36hp engine into a 45hp unit.
So to
come back to the original question, does it add to the value? Not unless you have documentation that it is a Honda factory authorized option.
Then, that item like the Pos-a-traction rims and the wood steering wheel with the wood shift knob, come into the mix. Look at it this way, the items would have to pass a judged event with the documentation proving that the item in question is a factory option and not after market. Proof would be a new car window sticker or sales receipt showing options that came with the vehicle. Or a parts manual listing it as an available option.
Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Bruce
> Dewing
> Sent:
> Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:00 PM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re: [anzhonda600owners]
> Re: Modifications / Accessories
> I'm gonna call bs on that. The AMC Gremlin had a Levi Strauss > edition. Proof is here:
> http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=739237
> The automatic was not sold in the US, except for a hadfull of evaluation > cars (Bill C. has one). The number 6 sticks in my mind.
> Many dealers added stuff (pinstripping, vinyl top, mag wheels) to improve > proffit. They all sourced their own stuff, so there isn't a list of > aftermarket accessories. To find a listing of official stuff, search the > archive for my prior post (either this group, or the other one, I > forget).
> I have photos of the 'Rembrandt' edition. Likely a one dealership > release (Robertson in L.A.). The extra value in owning it...
> zilch.
> Bruce D.
> Santa Clara, CA
> From:
> Victor L. Hernandez
> vluishernandez@...
> To:
> "
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> "
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Sat, June 2, 2012 3:06:54
> PM
> Subject:
> Re:
> [anzhonda600owners] Re: Modifications /
> Accessories
> If anybody has tht Levi's edition please post pictures!
> Sent from
> my iPhone
> On Jun 2, 2012, at 4:55 PM, "Steven" stevenginter@...
> wrote:
> > I heard there was a automatic transmission released,
> > I remember as a
> > 15 year old kid way back, a "Levis Strauss" edition. it was Pop Orange and > > the blue Levis interior with orange stiching and the little red Levis tags > > on the seats.
> > I heard there was a Seattle "Seahawk" edition ??
> > On
> > N.A.D.A. blue book it lists the Positraction wheels you have, a special > > steering wheel and gearshift knob as options.
> > Steve in Arizona
> > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > ,
> > "baldwin_elias" wrote:
> > > Out of
> > curiosity, does anyone have any history on dealer or aftermarket > > modifications or accessories for the 600 coupe? I recently purchased a z600 > > that has different wheels, steering wheel, and striping than my other coupe.
> > Limited research reveals that the wheels are "Pos-A-Traction," but I have no > > idea on the steering wheel (which has the Honda emblem) or the striping. I'm > > assuming modifications were common, as a period article noted "the Honda > > costs so little, most buyers have money left over they don't know what to do > > with." This new-to-me coupe originally hails from California, I believe. Any > > information on what was available back in the day for these cars would be > > appreciated.

friend · Post by **friend** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:40 am

�
Hi Harry;
That's not good to hear. I too have had some back issues but they seem to be getting better. I have a herniated disc that is tightening up my back on both sides of the spine. I have been going to the R.I.S.E. Center in Bonita and A PT named Ward has been doing really good things. What are they doing for your pinched nerve?
Bill

> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Harry
> Lineback
> Sent:
> Saturday, June 02, 2012 6:31 PM
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> Re: [anzhonda600owners]
> Re: Modifications / Accessories
> Mr Bill
> You ALWAYS write such interesting answers to the questions.
> My warmest regards to & the Lady.
> Have not been well -- pinched nerve in the spine. But I am getting > better.
> Harry
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 2, 2012, at 18:07, billmyong@...
> wrote:
> > �
> > Bruce Dewing is correct on the interior as I have found no such > > option. On the rims, the aluminum wheels that were offered > > at Honda Dealerships were the Shelby (3.5 in width) and Pos-a-traction (5 in > > width), there were all kinds of others some had 7in width for the rear > > and 5in width for the front. The wood steering wheel and shift knob > > were a Coupe only item (that I know of) that was authorized as a dealer > > option. Honda had a side accent strip for the Coupe that is listed in > > a Honda Coupe parts manual along with a roof rack and sliding cloth > > top for the Sedan. The Sedan also had split rear seats and grab > > handles to assist rear passengers getting out of the rear seat. There > > were also door sill plates for the Coupe much like the Sedan and aluminum > > kick plates for the bottom of the Sedan doors. There is also > > a GT potion for the Sedan that was not available in the US. It > > came with a wood laminate for the dash and a shift counsel, which were shown > > in the Shop Manual.
> > An
> > early brochure for the USA had a Hondamatic but with extensive > > testing and the EPA pulling the plug on the 45hp version of the > > engine none were sold in the USA. Reportedly there were 5 test > > Hondamatics, and there is a story about these cars being turned over to > > the spouses of the top brass but nothing in writing. And it's > > important to note that in the list of repair parts authorized for new Honda > > 600 dealerships no Hondamatic parts or special tools were > > listed.
> > If
> > you could get the local dealer to order parts offered in other countries > > such as the right door rear view mirror, rear mud flaps, pop-up radio > > antenna, electronic tach for the Sedan along with an assortment of badges to > > go on the trunk and side panels then you had them for your Honda 600.
> > Back before Honda of America split from Honda of Japan many of these > > items could be ordered from Honda of Japan to include all the parts to make > > your 36hp engine into a 45hp unit.
> > So
> > to come back to the original question, does it add to the value? Not > > unless you have documentation that it is a Honda factory authorized > > option. Then, that item like the Pos-a-traction rims and the wood > > steering wheel with the wood shift knob, come into the > > mix. Look at it this way, the items would have to pass a judged > > event with the documentation proving that the item in question is a factory > > option and not after market. Proof would be a new car window > > sticker or sales receipt showing options that came with the vehicle.
> > Or a parts manual listing it as an available option.
> > Bill
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> > > On Behalf Of
> > > Bruce
> > > Dewing
> > > Sent:
> > > Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:00 PM
> > > To:
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject:
> > > Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Modifications /
> > > Accessories
> > > I'm gonna call bs on that. The AMC Gremlin had a Levi Strauss > > > edition. Proof is here:
> > > http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=739237
> > > The automatic was not sold in the US, except for a hadfull of > > > evaluation cars (Bill C. has one). The number 6 sticks in my > > > mind.
> > > Many dealers added stuff (pinstripping, vinyl top, mag wheels) to > > > improve proffit. They all sourced their own stuff, so there isn't a > > > list of aftermarket accessories. To find a listing of official > > > stuff, search the archive for my prior post (either this group, or the > > > other one, I forget).
> > > I have photos of the 'Rembrandt' edition. Likely a one > > > dealership release (Robertson in L.A.). The extra value in owning > > > it... zilch.
> > > Bruce D.
> > > Santa Clara, CA
> > > From:
> > > Victor L. Hernandez
> > > > > vluishernandez@...
> > > To:
> > > "
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > "
> > > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Sat, June 2, 2012 3:06:54
> > > PM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re:
> > > [anzhonda600owners] Re: Modifications /
> > > Accessories
> > > If anybody has tht Levi's edition please post pictures!
> > > Sent
> > > from my iPhone
> > > On Jun 2, 2012, at 4:55 PM, "Steven" > > stevenginter@...
> > > wrote:
> > > > I heard there was a automatic transmission released, > > > > I remember as > > > > a 15 year old kid way back, a "Levis Strauss" edition. it was Pop Orange > > > > and the blue Levis interior with orange stiching and the little red > > > > Levis tags on the seats.
> > > > I heard there was a Seattle "Seahawk"
> > > > edition ??
> > > > On N.A.D.A. blue book it lists the Positraction wheels you > > > > have, a special steering wheel and gearshift knob as options.
> > > > Steve
> > > > in Arizona
> > > > --- In
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > ,
> > > > "baldwin_elias" wrote:
> > > > > Out of
> > > > curiosity, does anyone have any history on dealer or aftermarket > > > > modifications or accessories for the 600 coupe? I recently purchased a > > > > z600 that has different wheels, steering wheel, and striping than my > > > > other coupe. Limited research reveals that the wheels are > > > > "Pos-A-Traction," but I have no idea on the steering wheel (which has > > > > the Honda emblem) or the striping. I'm assuming modifications were > > > > common, as a period article noted "the Honda costs so little, most > > > > buyers have money left over they don't know what to do with." This > > > > new-to-me coupe originally hails from California, I believe. Any > > > > information on what was available back in the day for these cars would > > > > be > > > > appreciated.

Harry Connors · Post by **Harry Connors** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:15 am

Hi Bill
Thanks for the reply but I am the wrong Harry; I think this was intended for Harry Lineback not Harry Connors.
All the best on the spine, I was shot near there back in 1968 (RVN) and had to be in a wheel chair for almost six months until I could prove the Doctors wrong. The PT is the best way to handle it, within reason and with a good Doctor.
Harry

On 03.06.2012, at 10:46, wrote:
> �
> Hi
> Harry;
> That's not good to hear. I too have had some back
> issues but they seem to be getting better. I have a herniated disc that is > tightening up my back on both sides of the spine.   I have been going > to the R.I.S.E. Center in Bonita and A PT named Ward has been doing really > good things. What are they doing for your pinched > nerve?
> Bill
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of
> > Harry
> > Lineback
> > Sent:
> > Saturday, June 02, 2012 6:31 PM
> > To:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:
> > Re: [anzhonda600owners]
> > Re: Modifications / Accessories
> > Mr Bill
> > You ALWAYS write such interesting answers to the questions.
> > My warmest regards to & the Lady.
> > Have not been well -- pinched nerve in the spine. But I am getting > > better.
> > Harry
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > On Jun 2, 2012, at 18:07, > billmyong@...
> > wrote:
> > > �
> > > Bruce Dewing is correct on the interior as I have found no such > > > option.  On the rims, the aluminum wheels that were offered > > > at Honda Dealerships were the Shelby (3.5 in width) and Pos-a-traction (5 in > > > width), there were all kinds of others some had 7in width for the rear > > > and 5in width for the front. The wood steering wheel and shift knob > > > were a Coupe only item (that I know of) that was authorized as a dealer > > > option. Honda had a side accent strip for the Coupe that is listed in > > > a Honda Coupe parts manual along with a roof rack and sliding cloth > > > top for the Sedan. The Sedan also had split rear seats and grab > > > handles to assist rear passengers getting out of the rear seat. There > > > were also door sill plates for the Coupe much like the Sedan and aluminum > > > kick plates for the bottom of the Sedan doors.  There is also > > > a GT potion for the Sedan that was not available in the US. It > > > came with a wood laminate for the dash and a shift counsel, which were shown > > > in the Shop Manual.
> > > An
> > > early brochure for the USA had a Hondamatic but with extensive > > > testing and the EPA pulling the plug on the 45hp version of the > > > engine none were sold in the USA. Reportedly there were 5 test > > > Hondamatics, and there is a story about these cars being turned over to > > > the spouses of the top brass but nothing in writing. And it's > > > important to note that in the list of repair parts authorized for new Honda > > > 600 dealerships no Hondamatic parts or special tools were > > > listed.
> > > If
> > > you could get the local dealer to order parts offered in other countries > > > such as the right door rear view mirror, rear mud flaps, pop-up radio > > > antenna, electronic tach for the Sedan along with an assortment of badges to > > > go on the trunk and side panels then you had them for your Honda 600.
> > > Back before Honda of America split from Honda of Japan many of these > > > items could be ordered from Honda of Japan to include all the parts to make > > > your 36hp engine into a 45hp unit.
> > > So
> > > to come back to the original question, does it add to the value? Not > > > unless you have documentation that it is a Honda factory authorized > > > option. Then, that item like the Pos-a-traction rims and the wood > > > steering wheel with the wood shift knob, come into the > > > mix.   Look at it this way, the items would have to pass a judged > > > event with the documentation proving that the item in question is a factory > > > option and not after market.   Proof would be a new car window > > > sticker or sales receipt showing options that came with the vehicle.
> > > Or a parts manual listing it as an available option.
> > > Bill
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> > > > On Behalf Of
> > > > Bruce
> > > > Dewing
> > > > Sent:
> > > > Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:00 PM
> > > > To:
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject:
> > > > Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Modifications /
> > > > Accessories
> > > > I'm gonna call bs on that. The AMC Gremlin had a Levi Strauss > > > > edition. Proof is here:
> > > > http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=739237
> > > > The automatic was not sold in the US, except for a hadfull of > > > > evaluation cars (Bill C. has one). The number 6 sticks in my > > > > mind.
> > > > Many dealers added stuff (pinstripping, vinyl top, mag wheels) to > > > > improve proffit. They all sourced their own stuff, so there isn't a > > > > list of aftermarket accessories. To find a listing of official > > > > stuff, search the archive for my prior post (either this group, or the > > > > other one, I forget).
> > > > I have photos of the 'Rembrandt' edition. Likely a one > > > > dealership release (Robertson in L.A.). The extra value in owning > > > > it... zilch.
> > > > Bruce D.
> > > > Santa Clara, CA
> > > > From:
> > > > Victor L. Hernandez
> > > > > > > vluishernandez@...
> > > > To:
> > > > "
> > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > "
> > > > > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent:
> > > > Sat, June 2, 2012 3:06:54
> > > > PM
> > > > Subject:
> > > > Re:
> > > > [anzhonda600owners] Re: Modifications /
> > > > Accessories
> > > > If anybody has tht Levi's edition please post pictures!
> > > > Sent
> > > > from my iPhone
> > > > On Jun 2, 2012, at 4:55 PM, "Steven" > > > stevenginter@...
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I heard there was a automatic transmission released, > > > > > I remember as > > > > > a 15 year old kid way back, a "Levis Strauss" edition. it was Pop Orange > > > > > and the blue Levis interior with orange stiching and the little red > > > > > Levis tags on the seats.
> > > > > I heard there was a Seattle "Seahawk"
> > > > > edition ??
> > > > > On N.A.D.A. blue book it lists the Positraction wheels you > > > > > have, a special steering wheel and gearshift knob as options.
> > > > > Steve
> > > > > in Arizona
> > > > > --- In
> > > > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > ,
> > > > > "baldwin_elias" wrote:
> > > > > > Out of
> > > > > curiosity, does anyone have any history on dealer or aftermarket > > > > > modifications or accessories for the 600 coupe? I recently purchased a > > > > > z600 that has different wheels, steering wheel, and striping than my > > > > > other coupe. Limited research reveals that the wheels are > > > > > "Pos-A-Traction," but I have no idea on the steering wheel (which has > > > > > the Honda emblem) or the striping. I'm assuming modifications were > > > > > common, as a period article noted "the Honda costs so little, most > > > > > buyers have money left over they don't know what to do with." This > > > > > new-to-me coupe originally hails from California, I believe. Any > > > > > information on what was available back in the day for these cars would > > > > > be > > > > > appreciated.

Chas · Post by **Chas** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:58 am

It may be that his inquiry has nothing to do with attempting to find additional value. He may just want to know if these cars came this way, in order to preserve the originality of the car.
It would be a shame to replace and discard these items simply because someone thought that Hondas were never sold this way, only to learn later that they were either factory or dealer options.
I know that when I was much younger and much more naive, I was trying to restore a 1961 Jaguar XK150 Drophead Coupe, and I simply presumed that the yellow Lucas driving lamps with the mismatched lenses, had been added by a previous owner, much like a J. C. Whitney accessory. So, I simply removed and discarded them, and had the holes welded shut before I had the car painted. I have since learned that those Lucas driving lamps were a factory accessory, and that the lenses were intentionally mismatched so as not to blind oncoming drivers. I had to buy a replacement set and redrill those mounting holes. Yes, I still have the car, but it is still not completley restored.
Chas

--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, wrote:
> Bruce Dewing is correct on the interior as I have found no such option. On the rims, the aluminum wheels that were offered at Honda Dealerships were the Shelby (3.5 in width) and Pos-a-traction (5 in width), there were all kinds of others some had 7in width for the rear and 5in width for the front. The wood steering wheel and shift knob were a Coupe only item (that I know of) that was authorized as a dealer option. Honda had a side accent strip for the Coupe that is listed in a Honda Coupe parts manual along with a roof rack and sliding cloth top for the Sedan. The Sedan also had split rear seats and grab handles to assist rear passengers getting out of the rear seat. There were also door sill plates for the Coupe much like the Sedan and aluminum kick plates for the bottom of the Sedan doors. There is also a GT potion for the Sedan that was not available in the US. It came with a wood laminate for the dash and a shift counsel, which were shown in the Shop Manual.
> An early brochure for the USA had a Hondamatic but with extensive testing and the EPA pulling the plug on the 45hp version of the engine none were sold in the USA. Reportedly there were 5 test Hondamatics, and there is a story about these cars being turned over to the spouses of the top brass but nothing in writing. And it's important to note that in the list of repair parts authorized for new Honda 600 dealerships no Hondamatic parts or special tools were listed.
> If you could get the local dealer to order parts offered in other countries such as the right door rear view mirror, rear mud flaps, pop-up radio antenna, electronic tach for the Sedan along with an assortment of badges to go on the trunk and side panels then you had them for your Honda 600. Back before Honda of America split from Honda of Japan many of these items could be ordered from Honda of Japan to include all the parts to make your 36hp engine into a 45hp unit.
> So to come back to the original question, does it add to the value? Not unless you have documentation that it is a Honda factory authorized option. Then, that item like the Pos-a-traction rims and the wood steering wheel with the wood shift knob, come into the mix. Look at it this way, the items would have to pass a judged event with the documentation proving that the item in question is a factory option and not after market. Proof would be a new car window sticker or sales receipt showing options that came with the vehicle. Or a parts manual listing it as an available option.
> Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
]On Behalf Of Bruce Dewing
> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:00 PM
> To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Modifications / Accessories
> I'm gonna call bs on that. The AMC Gremlin had a Levi Strauss edition. Proof is here:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=739237
> The automatic was not sold in the US, except for a hadfull of evaluation cars (Bill C. has one). The number 6 sticks in my mind.
> Many dealers added stuff (pinstripping, vinyl top, mag wheels) to improve proffit. They all sourced their own stuff, so there isn't a list of aftermarket accessories. To find a listing of official stuff, search the archive for my prior post (either this group, or the other one, I forget).
> I have photos of the 'Rembrandt' edition. Likely a one dealership release (Robertson in L.A.). The extra value in owning it... zilch.
> Bruce D.
> Santa Clara, CA
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Victor L. Hernandez
> To: "
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
" Sent: Sat, June 2, 2012 3:06:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Modifications / Accessories
> If anybody has tht Levi's edition please post pictures!
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 2, 2012, at 4:55 PM, "Steven" wrote:
> I heard there was a automatic transmission released,
> I remember as a 15 year old kid way back, a "Levis Strauss" edition. it was Pop Orange and the blue Levis interior with orange stiching and the little red Levis tags on the seats.
> I heard there was a Seattle "Seahawk" edition ??
> On N.A.D.A. blue book it lists the Positraction wheels you have, a special steering wheel and gearshift knob as options.
> Steve in Arizona
> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "baldwin_elias" wrote:
> > Out of curiosity, does anyone have any history on dealer or aftermarket modifications or accessories for the 600 coupe? I recently purchased a z600 that has different wheels, steering wheel, and striping than my other coupe. Limited research reveals that the wheels are "Pos-A-Traction," but I have no idea on the steering wheel (which has the Honda emblem) or the striping. I'm assuming modifications were common, as a period article noted "the Honda costs so little, most buyers have money left over they don't know what to do with." This new-to-me coupe originally hails from California, I believe. Any information on what was available back in the day for these cars would be appreciated.