Fwd: [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan

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Gabriel Garcia Diaz
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Fwd: [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan

Post by Gabriel Garcia Diaz »

Here's the link to the video
http://youtu.be/qhg2iAWbIAw Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
> From:
> Gabriel Garcia Diaz gabegarcia01@...
> Date:
> June 8, 2013, 7:07:58 PM CDT
> To:
> Z600 Group anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
> [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan
> Reply-To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> Since it's been the topic of choice I want to share what I've done to my Z600. My intake filter cost me around $20. Another $20 for the electric fan, and $5 for the aluminum bar stock I used to make the bracket to hold the fan in place. The filter with a less restrictive exhaust has gained me a top speed of 95mph. The electric fan lowered the temperature from 250 to 190 on the aluminum head verified by an infrared thermometer. Let me know what you guys think.
> Sent from my iPhone
> ------------------------------------
Bill
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Re: Air Intake and Cooling Fan

Post by Bill »

Hi Gabriel;
How many rpm's are you turning at 95 mph?
Bill
Eric Geiger
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Re: Air Intake and Cooling Fan

Post by Eric Geiger »

is that 95mph on your speedometer or a GPS?
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On Jun 8, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Bill wrote:
> Hi Gabriel;
> How many rpm's are you turning at 95 mph?
> Bill
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Gabriel Garcia Diaz
> Sent:
> Saturday, June 08, 2013 5:09 PM
> To:
> Z600 Group
> Subject:
> Fwd: [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan
> Here's the link to the video
> http://youtu.be/qhg2iAWbIAw
> Sent from my iPhone
> Begin forwarded message:
> > From:
> > Gabriel Garcia Diaz > gabegarcia01@...
> > Date:
> > June 8, 2013, 7:07:58 PM CDT
> > To:
> > Z600 Group > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:
> > [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan
> > Reply-To:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Since it's been the topic of choice I want to share what I've done to my Z600. My intake filter cost me around $20. Another $20 for the electric fan, and $5 for the aluminum bar stock I used to make the bracket to hold the fan in place. The filter > > with a less restrictive exhaust has gained me a top speed of 95mph. The electric fan lowered the temperature from 250 to 190 on the aluminum head verified by an infrared thermometer. Let me know what you guys think.
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ------------------------------------
Gabriel Garcia Diaz
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Re: Air Intake and Cooling Fan

Post by Gabriel Garcia Diaz »

Speedo. I'll post a video next time I get out.
Gabe
On Jun 8, 2013, at 20:04, Eric Geiger wrote:
is that 95mph on your speedometer or a GPS?
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On Jun 8, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Bill wrote:
> Hi Gabriel;
> How many rpm's are you turning at 95 mph?
> Bill
> From:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> [
> mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> ]
> On Behalf Of
> Gabriel Garcia Diaz
> Sent:
> Saturday, June 08, 2013 5:09 PM
> To:
> Z600 Group
> Subject:
> Fwd: [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan
> Here's the link to the video
> http://youtu.be/qhg2iAWbIAw
> Sent from my iPhone
> Begin forwarded message:
> > From:
> > Gabriel Garcia Diaz > gabegarcia01@...
> > Date:
> > June 8, 2013, 7:07:58 PM CDT
> > To:
> > Z600 Group > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:
> > [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan
> > Reply-To:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > Since it's been the topic of choice I want to share what I've done to my Z600. My intake filter cost me around $20. Another $20 for the electric fan, and $5 for the aluminum bar stock I used to make the bracket to hold the fan in place. The filter > > with a less restrictive exhaust has gained me a top speed of 95mph. The electric fan lowered the temperature from 250 to 190 on the aluminum head verified by an infrared thermometer. Let me know what you guys think.
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ------------------------------------
Mark P Hatten
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Re: Air Intake and Cooling Fan

Post by Mark P Hatten »

75 mph is close or past redline in 4th depending on tire size.
95 mph has to be roughly 9000 rpm in 4th
I dunno for sure , but doubtful
www.mphspecialties.com
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Eric Geiger
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Re: Air Intake and Cooling Fan

Post by Eric Geiger »

Thats what i was thinking.  I've had mine up to 75 on the speedo on the freeway and i was redlined at 6k. i couldn't imagine taking it any further than the 6k in 4th gear.  i haven't compared my speedo to a GPS yet but plan on doing so next week.
look forward to seeing a vid.
Eric J. Geiger
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On Jun 9, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Mark P Hatten wrote:
> 75 mph is close or past redline in 4th depending on tire size.
> 95 mph has to be roughly 9000 rpm in 4th
> I dunno for sure , but doubtful
> www.mphspecialties.com
> To:
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> From:
> egeiger@...
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 01:04:40 +0000
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan
> is that 95mph on your speedometer or a GPS?
> Eric J. Geiger
> PRG Nocturne
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
>  phone
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
>  fax
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
>  mobile
> egeiger@...
> www.prgnocturne.com
> On Jun 8, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Bill wrote:
> > Hi Gabriel;
> > How many rpm's are you turning at 95 mph?
> > Bill
> > From:
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of
> > Gabriel Garcia Diaz
> > Sent:
> > Saturday, June 08, 2013 5:09 PM
> > To:
> > Z600 Group
> > Subject:
> > Fwd: [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan
> > Here's the link to the video
> > http://youtu.be/qhg2iAWbIAw
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > Begin forwarded message:
> > > From:
> > > Gabriel Garcia Diaz > > gabegarcia01@...
> > > Date:
> > > June 8, 2013, 7:07:58 PM CDT
> > > To:
> > > Z600 Group > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject:
> > > [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan
> > > Reply-To:
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > Since it's been the topic of choice I want to share what I've done to my Z600. My intake filter cost me around $20. Another $20 for the electric fan, and $5 for the aluminum bar stock I used to make the bracket to hold the fan in place. The filter > > > with a less restrictive exhaust has gained me a top speed of 95mph. The electric fan lowered the temperature from 250 to 190 on the aluminum head verified by an infrared thermometer. Let me know what you guys think.
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > ------------------------------------
Lyle
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Re: Air Intake and Cooling Fan

Post by Lyle »

Did a high speed run today! I have a stock 1972 coupe restored and rebuilt as close to original as possible. Test run was on level ground, no wind, stock tires 30psi F, 25psi R. Accelerated to 6,200 in 3 gears (not too exciting) then waited for about 35 seconds to see a top speed of 78-79mph and 6,300rpms. Held it wide open and it wouldn't go any faster. I have been racing for years so I love calculating gear ratio's and tire diameters.
Stock tires 19.1" in diameter = 60"/rev.
12.45mph/1,000rpm
Total gear ratio 4.60:1
Engine 4,850 at 60mph, axle 1,050rpm.
So 95mph = 7,630rpm
That is a 22% increase in speed/power.
Sorry but changing the air filter and a muffler is not going to get that increase.
Prove me wrong.
Lyle
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Eric Geiger wrote:
> Thats what i was thinking. I've had mine up to 75 on the speedo on the freeway and i was redlined at 6k. i couldn't imagine taking it any further than the 6k in 4th gear. i haven't compared my speedo to a GPS yet but plan on doing so next week.
> look forward to seeing a vid.
> Eric J. Geiger
> PRG Nocturne
> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> egeiger@...
> www.prgnocturne.com On Jun 9, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Mark P Hatten wrote:
> 75 mph is close or past redline in 4th depending on tire size.
> 95 mph has to be roughly 9000 rpm in 4th
> I dunno for sure , but doubtful
> www.mphspecialties.com To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
From: egeiger@...
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 01:04:40 +0000
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan
> is that 95mph on your speedometer or a GPS?
> Eric J. Geiger
> PRG Nocturne
> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> egeiger@...
> www.prgnocturne.com On Jun 8, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Bill wrote:
> Hi Gabriel;
> How many rpm's are you turning at 95 mph?
> Bill
> From:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
] On Behalf Of Gabriel Garcia Diaz
> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 5:09 PM
> To: Z600 Group
> Subject: Fwd: [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan
> Here's the link to the video
http://youtu.be/qhg2iAWbIAw
> Sent from my iPhone
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: Gabriel Garcia Diaz >
> Date: June 8, 2013, 7:07:58 PM CDT
> To: Z600 Group Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan
> Reply-To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
Since it's been the topic of choice I want to share what I've done to my Z600. My intake filter cost me around $20. Another $20 for the electric fan, and $5 for the aluminum bar stock I used to make the bracket to hold the fan in place. The filter with a less restrictive exhaust has gained me a top speed of 95mph. The electric fan lowered the temperature from 250 to 190 on the aluminum head verified by an infrared thermometer. Let me know what you guys think.
> Sent from my iPhone
> ------------------------------------
Mark P Hatten
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Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:55 am

Re: Air Intake and Cooling Fan

Post by Mark P Hatten »

Now you guys make me want to test mine out.  Just great !
Watch for me on "Super Speeders" or, more likely..... in " jail "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2anDmZjtF8
www.mphspecialties.com
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Bill
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Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:34 am

Re: Air Intake and Cooling Fan

Post by Bill »

Hi Lyle;
    Good test, I had one of mine up to 7K rpm's and then went past the power curve (the points floated) the engine stopped running until it got to about 5500 rpm's and started back up.  I did this three times and had the same results.  The gears were like new, the pistons were .50 over the rockers and cam and all internals were like new or measured to new spec.  But I was running mag rims 5in wide which brought it about 12 pounds lighter in unsprung weight.  All else was stock.
Bill
Gabriel Garcia Diaz
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Re: Air Intake and Cooling Fan

Post by Gabriel Garcia Diaz »

www.facebook.com/TheBenbrookHondaZ
you can see the pictures I've taken here. You don't have to believe me. I don't need approval just wanted to share that intake and exhaust upgrades could be done inexpensively. I think removing that belt driven fan for the electric radiator fan has been the best improvement to acceleration. I'll take a picture of the Infrared thermometer next time so you guys can see the temp off the block. I use my Z on the weekends and an electric mountain bike as a daily commuter. The bike is capable of 35mph on electric power alone. But I don't normally keep it at top speed as that greatly diminishes range of the Lithium battery. There's a video of a Z600 on youtube that was converted to electric drive. That is the reason I bought the Z in the first place, but batteries are still too expensive. In the meantime I'll enjoy the almost 40mpg I'm getting from the 2cyl engine.
Gabe
On Jun 11, 2013, at 20:03, Mark P Hatten wrote:
Now you guys make me want to test mine out.  Just great !
Watch for me on "Super Speeders" or, more likely..... in " jail "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2anDmZjtF8
www.mphspecialties.com
To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
From:
craft59@...
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 00:40:32 +0000
Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Re: Air Intake and Cooling Fan
Did a high speed run today! I have a stock 1972 coupe restored and rebuilt as close to original as possible. Test run was on level ground, no wind, stock tires 30psi F, 25psi R. Accelerated to 6,200 in 3 gears (not too exciting) then waited for about 35 seconds to see a top speed of 78-79mph and 6,300rpms. Held it wide open and it wouldn't go any faster. I have been racing for years so I love calculating gear ratio's and tire diameters.
Stock tires 19.1" in diameter = 60"/rev.
12.45mph/1,000rpm
Total gear ratio 4.60:1
Engine 4,850 at 60mph, axle 1,050rpm.
So 95mph = 7,630rpm
That is a 22% increase in speed/power.
Sorry but changing the air filter and a muffler is not going to get that increase.
Prove me wrong.
Lyle
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Eric Geiger wrote:
> Thats what i was thinking. I've had mine up to 75 on the speedo on the freeway and i was redlined at 6k. i couldn't imagine taking it any further than the 6k in 4th gear. i haven't compared my speedo to a GPS yet but plan on doing so next week.
> look forward to seeing a vid.
> Eric J. Geiger
> PRG Nocturne
> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> egeiger@...
www.prgnocturne.com
On Jun 9, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Mark P Hatten wrote:
> 75 mph is close or past redline in 4th depending on tire size.
> 95 mph has to be roughly 9000 rpm in 4th
> I dunno for sure , but doubtful
www.mphspecialties.com
To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
From: egeiger@...
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 01:04:40 +0000
> Subject: Re: [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan
> is that 95mph on your speedometer or a GPS?
> Eric J. Geiger
> PRG Nocturne
> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> egeiger@...
www.prgnocturne.com
On Jun 8, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Bill wrote:
> Hi Gabriel;
> How many rpm's are you turning at 95 mph?
> Bill
> From:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
] On Behalf Of Gabriel Garcia Diaz
> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 5:09 PM
> To: Z600 Group
> Subject: Fwd: [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan
> Here's the link to the video
http://youtu.be/qhg2iAWbIAw
> Sent from my iPhone
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: Gabriel Garcia Diaz >
> Date: June 8, 2013, 7:07:58 PM CDT
> To: Z600 Group Subject: [anzhonda600owners] Air Intake and Cooling Fan
> Reply-To:
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
Since it's been the topic of choice I want to share what I've done to my Z600. My intake filter cost me around $20. Another $20 for the electric fan, and $5 for the aluminum bar stock I used to make the bracket to hold the fan in place. The filter with a less restrictive exhaust has gained me a top speed of 95mph. The electric fan lowered the temperature from 250 to 190 on the aluminum head verified by an infrared thermometer. Let me know what you guys think.
> Sent from my iPhone
> ------------------------------------
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