As a newer owner to a set of Honda 600, I think that I may have caused my own problems. A few month's ago I bought a 72 600N, it had been sitting out in a dirt lot for a few years. The guy I got it from had long ago lost the keys, so I drilled out the two retaining bolts to unlock the steering. Then I lucked out and got a 72 600Z at a storage auction (only $5.00 for the car!) same thing no keys, get the drill out to get the car home.
Now is where I have the problem, the first car got it cleaned up put together use a screwdriver to turn the switch, no spark. Rechecked everything same problem. When I got the second car same thing again. So my question is, if the ignition assembly is not bolted on and turned with the key will this cause no spark problem? I think it is a far fetched idea, but I got the same results with both cars.
Thanks for any help or ideas,
Jason
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dealadayray
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Re: Starting problems!
Hi Jason;
I think every owner will tell you that if you unbolt the ignition switch from the key way you can use a screw driver to turn it to start your car. I think there is something else in the mix. Try touching the hot lead to the battery bolt on your starter if it turns then switch the ignition switch on and see if it will start. If not, then you need to look else where.
Bill
I think every owner will tell you that if you unbolt the ignition switch from the key way you can use a screw driver to turn it to start your car. I think there is something else in the mix. Try touching the hot lead to the battery bolt on your starter if it turns then switch the ignition switch on and see if it will start. If not, then you need to look else where.
Bill
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> As a newer owner to a set of Honda 600, I think that I may have > caused my own problems. A few month's ago I bought a 72 600N, it had > been sitting out in a dirt lot for a few years. The guy I got it from > had long ago lost the keys, so I drilled out the two retaining bolts to unlock > the steering. Then I lucked out and got a 72 600Z at a storage auction > (only $5.00 for the car!) same thing no keys, get the drill out to get the car > home.
> Now is where I have the problem, the first car got it cleaned up put > together use a screwdriver to turn the switch, no spark. Rechecked > everything same problem. When I got the second car same thing > again. So my question is, if the ignition assembly is not bolted on and > turned with the key will this cause no spark problem? I think it is a > far fetched idea, but I got the same results with both cars.
> Thanks for any help or ideas,
> Jason
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Re: Starting problems!
That's what I thought. They both turn over and and have good compresion, just can't get the spark yet. I will be re-installing the engine soon, so by then all the wires and connections will have been gone thru and cleaned or replaced. Along the way I hope to find the problem. Thanks for the info, it takes one idea out of the way.
Jason
william colford wrote:
Jason
william colford wrote:
> Hi Jason;
> I think every owner will tell you that if you unbolt the ignition switch from the key way you can use a screw driver to turn it to start your car. I think there is something else in the mix. Try touching the hot lead to the battery bolt on your starter if it turns then switch the ignition switch on and see if it will start. If not, then you need to look else where.
> Bill
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> > [2cylinderhondas] Starting problems!
> > As a newer owner to a set of Honda 600, I think that I may have caused my own problems. A few month's ago I bought a 72 600N, it had been sitting out in a dirt lot for a few years. The guy I got it from had long ago lost the keys, so I drilled out the two retaining bolts to unlock the steering. Then I lucked out and got a 72 600Z at a storage auction (only $5.00 for the car!) same thing no keys, get the drill out to get the car home.
> > Now is where I have the problem, the first car got it cleaned up put together use a screwdriver to turn the switch, no spark. Rechecked everything same problem. When I got the second car same thing again. So my question is, if the ignition assembly is not bolted on and turned with the key will this cause no spark problem? I think it is a far fetched idea, but I got the same results with both cars.
> > Thanks for any help or ideas,
> > Jason
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Re: Starting problems!
I'll offer my 2 cents here. I had the engine on mine worked on and
then had problems getting it started. After checking everything ( I
thought) the problrm was solved by putting in new sparkplugs. We had
sure looked at the plugs, but they must have been fouled. Seemed too
simple. But it did the trick.
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then had problems getting it started. After checking everything ( I
thought) the problrm was solved by putting in new sparkplugs. We had
sure looked at the plugs, but they must have been fouled. Seemed too
simple. But it did the trick.
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Re: Starting problems!
There is a misperception about spark plug cleaning. A lot of shade-tree
mechanics make the mistake of using carb cleaner and a wire brush to clean
them up. Even raw gas is not the best. The best way is to get one of the
compressed air spark plug sand blasting tools. It cleans them up great and
keeps them dry. The difference between your old plugs and the new ones you
replaced them with was most likely that they were dry. I say this not to
pick at your comment because it was right on the mark, but for the situation
that we already had new plugs in when it wouldn't start, I too have had the
wet plug problem, and a quick sand blasting has done the trick.
Bill
mechanics make the mistake of using carb cleaner and a wire brush to clean
them up. Even raw gas is not the best. The best way is to get one of the
compressed air spark plug sand blasting tools. It cleans them up great and
keeps them dry. The difference between your old plugs and the new ones you
replaced them with was most likely that they were dry. I say this not to
pick at your comment because it was right on the mark, but for the situation
that we already had new plugs in when it wouldn't start, I too have had the
wet plug problem, and a quick sand blasting has done the trick.
Bill
Re: Starting problems!
I've been sandblasting plugs for years, works great. I dump as many
as I can collect in my bead blaster and do 'em up all at once (using
60 mesh sand) however if there is any residual sand you don't want it
in the engine. I wash them in Oil Eater, rinse with hot water, & blow
dry the plugs then inspect the tips. Rounded tip electrodes don't
produce at crisp spark as a new one. Look at a new plug (an NGK) it
has a flat tip.
I hear heating the ceramic tip insulator & tip with a butane lighter
will burn off oil residue. Great roadside trick - could get you home.
Motor on -
Miles
as I can collect in my bead blaster and do 'em up all at once (using
60 mesh sand) however if there is any residual sand you don't want it
in the engine. I wash them in Oil Eater, rinse with hot water, & blow
dry the plugs then inspect the tips. Rounded tip electrodes don't
produce at crisp spark as a new one. Look at a new plug (an NGK) it
has a flat tip.
I hear heating the ceramic tip insulator & tip with a butane lighter
will burn off oil residue. Great roadside trick - could get you home.
Motor on -
Miles
--- In 2cylinderhondas@y..., "william colford" wrote:
> There is a misperception about spark plug cleaning. A lot of shade-
tree
> mechanics make the mistake of using carb cleaner and a wire brush
to clean
> them up. Even raw gas is not the best. The best way is to get one
of the
> compressed air spark plug sand blasting tools. It cleans them up
great and
> keeps them dry. The difference between your old plugs and the new
ones you
> replaced them with was most likely that they were dry. I say this
not to
> pick at your comment because it was right on the mark, but for the
situation
> that we already had new plugs in when it wouldn't start, I too have
had the
> wet plug problem, and a quick sand blasting has done the trick.
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "isettajoe"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:35 PM
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: Starting problems!
> > I'll offer my 2 cents here. I had the engine on mine worked on and
> > then had problems getting it started. After checking everything (
I
> > thought) the problrm was solved by putting in new sparkplugs. We
had
> > sure looked at the plugs, but they must have been fouled. Seemed
too
> > simple. But it did the trick.
> > -
> > -- In 2cylinderhondas@y..., jason hambelton wrote:
> > > As a newer owner to a set of Honda 600, I think that I may
have
> > caused my own problems. A few month's ago I bought a 72 600N, it
had
> > been sitting out in a dirt lot for a few years. The guy I got it
> > from had long ago lost the keys, so I drilled out the two
retaining
> > bolts to unlock the steering. Then I lucked out and got a 72
600Z at
> > a storage auction (only $5.00 for the car!) same thing no keys,
get
> > the drill out to get the car home.
> > > Now is where I have the problem, the first car got it cleaned up
> > put together use a screwdriver to turn the switch, no spark.
> > Rechecked everything same problem. When I got the second car same
> > thing again. So my question is, if the ignition assembly is not
> > bolted on and turned with the key will this cause no spark
problem?
> > I think it is a far fetched idea, but I got the same results with
> > both cars.
> > > Thanks for any help or ideas,
> > > Jason
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