2 cyl Honda.

[CHEYENNE FLETCHER]

That is encouraging I have two motors that sat outside I wondered if they would survive.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> goinhm@...
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:27
> AM
> Subject:
> Re: [2cylinderhondas] Re: 2 cyl
> Honda.
> What do you mean by weathered?   I have picked up cars which > sat outside for years with the cylinder barrels removed and the connecting > rods exposed which I thought were going to be damaged and they turned out to > be fine.  Take a look at the section of the connecting rods where the > piston pins attach and check the condition.  And then pull off the left > and right bearing holders and inspect the  roller bearings and the shafts > for rusting and pitting.  If these areas look good,  there is a very > good chance the center bearing sections (which are pressed together) are > good.  You will still need to check the crank to make sure the radial and > axial movement of the conn rods is ok (see the manual).
> good luck,
> Dale
> > From
> > my understanding you should keep them well oiled up and try to keep out dust > > and debris.
> > --- In
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > ,
> > "Josh" wrote:
> > > Do the crankshafts
> > become useless when they have been weathered? Just curious.
> > --- In
> > 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > ,
> > "jpro8071" wrote:
> > > > Welcome to the
> > addiction. You'll find posts pretty recent about some options for more > > power. But keep in mind the cranks are getting harder and harder to > > find.

[jpro8071]

In that case luck might have a bit to do with it also.
;-)

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, goinhm@... wrote:
> What do you mean by weathered? I have picked up cars which sat outside
> for years with the cylinder barrels removed and the connecting rods exposed
> which I thought were going to be damaged and they turned out to be fine.
> Take a look at the section of the connecting rods where the piston pins
> attach and check the condition. And then pull off the left and right bearing
> holders and inspect the roller bearings and the shafts for rusting and
> pitting. If these areas look good, there is a very good chance the center
> bearing sections (which are pressed together) are good. You will still need
> to check the crank to make sure the radial and axial movement of the conn
> rods is ok (see the manual).
> good luck,
> Dale
> From my understanding you should keep them well oiled up and try to keep
> out dust and debris.
> --- In _2cylinderhondas@2cylinderhon2cy_
> (mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
) , "Josh" wrote:
> > Do the crankshafts become useless when they have been weathered? Just
> curious.
> > --- In _2cylinderhondas@2cylinderhon2cy_
> (mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
) , "jpro8071" wrote:
> > > Welcome to the addiction. You'll find posts pretty recent about some
> options for more power. But keep in mind the cranks are getting harder and
> harder to find.

[jpro8071]

I think that's the way it started. Then got changed to meet US requirements. I could be wrong, but it's my understanding.

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "CHEYENNE FLETCHER" wrote:
> Wholly crap they would do that??I didn't think that they would make something so different seems like production would suffer.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jpro8071
> To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:05 AM
> Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: 2 cyl Honda.
> High compression pistons can be done, but it's not cheap.
> European = different cam (I think no overlap), different head ("Y port") which meant different exhaust, and a different carb.
> --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, "CHEYENNE FLETCHER" wrote:
> > I guess high compression pistons are out of the question. The head configuration looks pretty good thought they could produce a little more than 36 pony's The European version has 9 more horsepower wonder what the difference is. I don't notice any smog stuff on any of mine. Cheers!!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: jpro8071
> > To:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 6:49 PM
> > Subject: [2cylinderhondas] Re: 2 cyl Honda.
> > Welcome to the addiction. You'll find posts pretty recent about some options for more power. But keep in mind the cranks are getting harder and harder to find.
> > Even at 36 hp they are pretty peppy.
> > --- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
>, "cheyfletcher71" wrote:
> > > I'm new to this Honda thing. I just bought 3 of them and am looking at a 4th.There kinda like kittens I cant resist them. All are Arizona cars and the bodys only have a little rust.Cool! I am building a motor and was curious as to what is available or if the little guys have too many weak links.It would be neat to build a fast(for lack of a better word)motor.I'm looking forward to chatting with al the 2cyl Honda lovers and think this site is pretty neat.Any feedback would be awesome. Cheers!!

[zinc2u]

Yep,  I don't live by the sea.  The hood had been kept closed so it did not get any rain dumping on it.
But even if the engine had dust which accumulated on the crank,  the roller bearing design makes it easy to submerge the crank and get it cleaned out.  The biggest culprit would be oxidation (rusting) in the area of the bearing surfaces.

> In that
> case luck might have a bit to do with it also.
> ;-)
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> ,
> goinhm@... wrote:
> > What do you mean by weathered? I have picked
> up cars which sat outside
> > for years with the cylinder barrels removed
> and the connecting rods exposed
> > which I thought were going to be
> damaged and they turned out to be fine.
> > Take a look at the section of
> the connecting rods where the piston pins
> > attach and check the
> condition. And then pull off the left and right bearing

[lyletrudell]

Dale, maybe in sunny FL or CA :) When I lived in Buffalo, NY 25 years ago, just one 9 month winter with road salt would destoy that exposed car or engine. We used to spray all our exposed engine parts with gear oil to keep the rust down.
Good points about inspecting the engine condition though.
Lyle

--- In
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
, goinhm@... wrote:
> What do you mean by weathered? I have picked up cars which sat outside
> for years with the cylinder barrels removed and the connecting rods exposed
> which I thought were going to be damaged and they turned out to be fine.
> Take a look at the section of the connecting rods where the piston pins
> attach and check the condition. And then pull off the left and right bearing
> holders and inspect the roller bearings and the shafts for rusting and
> pitting. If these areas look good, there is a very good chance the center
> bearing sections (which are pressed together) are good. You will still need
> to check the crank to make sure the radial and axial movement of the conn
> rods is ok (see the manual).
> good luck,
> Dale
> From my understanding you should keep them well oiled up and try to keep
> out dust and debris.
> --- In _2cylinderhondas@2cylinderhon2cy_
> (mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
) , "Josh" wrote:
> > Do the crankshafts become useless when they have been weathered? Just
> curious.
> > --- In _2cylinderhondas@2cylinderhon2cy_
> (mailto:
2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
) , "jpro8071" wrote:
> > > Welcome to the addiction. You'll find posts pretty recent about some
> options for more power. But keep in mind the cranks are getting harder and
> harder to find.

[CHEYENNE FLETCHER]

Sounds good. I have to remember we are the only country that cares about the air we breath. LOL

> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> jpro8071
> To:
> 2cylinderhondas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:
> Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:24 PM
> Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Re: 2 cyl
> Honda.
> I think that's the way it started. Then got changed to meet US > requirements. I could be wrong, but it's my understanding.
> --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> ,
> "CHEYENNE FLETCHER" wrote:
> Wholly crap they would do that??I didn't think that they would make something > so different seems like production would suffer.
> > ----- Original
> Message -----
> > From: jpro8071
> > To:
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:05 AM
> > Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Re: 2 cyl Honda.
> > High
> compression pistons can be done, but it's not cheap.
> > European
> = different cam (I think no overlap), different head ("Y port") which meant > different exhaust, and a different carb.
> > --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> >,
> "CHEYENNE FLETCHER" wrote:
> > I guess high compression pistons are out of the question. The head > configuration looks pretty good thought they could produce a little more than > 36 pony's The European version has 9 more horsepower wonder what the > difference is. I don't notice any smog stuff on any of mine. Cheers!!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> jpro8071
> > > To:
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> >
> > > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 6:49 PM
> > > Subject:
> [2cylinderhondas] Re: 2 cyl Honda.
> > > Welcome to the addiction. You'll find posts pretty recent about > some options for more power. But keep in mind the cranks are getting harder > and harder to find.
> > > Even at 36 hp they are pretty
> peppy.
> > > --- In
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> 2cylinderhondas@ yahoogroups. com
> >,
> "cheyfletcher71" wrote:
> > > I'm new to this Honda thing. I just bought 3 of them and am looking > at a 4th.There kinda like kittens I cant resist them. All are Arizona cars and > the bodys only have a little rust.Cool! I am building a motor and was curious > as to what is available or if the little guys have too many weak links.It > would be neat to build a fast(for lack of a better word)motor.I' m looking > forward to chatting with al the 2cyl Honda lovers and think this site is > pretty neat.Any feedback would be awesome. Cheers!!