New N600 Owner(hopefully)

[Chas]

That's great news Becky. We are all keeping our fingers crossed for you! I hope that it works out to be a fabulous car for very little money!
Chas

--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn wrote:
> I've found one close by in SC. It's complete and looks to have zero rust.
> So if all goes well I'll have this little guy before the end of next week.

[Chas]

I hope that ALL of the people on this list will respect Becky's priority on this car, and that she has scoped it out for her first acquisition into Honda 600 ownership. Please, please do not buy this out from under her, or even call the seller who might then increase his price as a result of increased demand.
Becky, Tie this one up quickly before someone else does. It is well worth the asking price, even sight unseen!
Chas

--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn wrote:
> Here is the add for it. Found it late tonight so, I'll call tomorrow about
> it.
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/XXX-XXX-XXXX.html
> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > **
> > Unfortunately I'm like 3 hours from there. I'm sure if you can get some
> > photos there will be some people more than willing to chime in and give an
> > opinion.
> > Eric J. Geiger
> > ---------------------------------------
> > PRG Nocturne
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > egeiger@...
> > www.prgnocturne.com
> > On May 10, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Becky Flynn" wrote:
> > It's in Florence, SC. He wants $1200 for it I think.
> > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> >> **
> >> where in SC I'm here now for work might be able to check it out for you.
> >> Eric J. Geiger
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *PRG Nocturne*
> >> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> >> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> >> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> >> egeiger@...
> >> www.prgnocturne.com
> >> On May 10, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> >> I've found one close by in SC. It's complete and looks to have zero
> >> rust. So if all goes well I'll have this little guy before the end of next
> >> week.
> >> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> >>> I've been looking in other places. It's just the amount of money it
> >>> would cost to drive and pick it up. My dad and brother think I'm weird
> >>> because I like these types of cars.
> >>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Mike wrote:
> >>>> **
> >>>> Becky,
> >>>> I highly recommend expanding your search to farther places. Tennessee
> >>>> is a place where cars tend to rust due to the winters.
> >>>> I travelled almost 1400 miles to get my Honda when I finally found a
> >>>> good one.
> >>>> Travelling far to get a treasure that you really want can be a really
> >>>> fun adventure to.
> >>>> good luck.
> >>>> Mike.
> >>>> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > Although, if any of you have one you are willing to sell. I'm
> >>>> definitely
> >>>> > interested.
> >>>> > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> >>>> > > There are a few in Ga, but they don't run and no matter how good it
> >>>> looks
> >>>> > > on the outside, I don't want to pay a ton for something that's not
> >>>> running.
> >>>> > > It's just frustrating because I want one now. The thought of
> >>>> waiting a full
> >>>> > > year just kills me.
> >>>> > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Elias Baldwin >>>> ...>wrote:
> >>>> > >> **
> >>>> > >> Eric's right. Uship found an independent hauler (guy with Ford
> >>>> F-250 and
> >>>> > >> trailer) for my Z that wasn't terribly expensive. You may have to
> >>>> wait a
> >>>> > >> bit, but someone somewhere will have an empty truck or trailer and
> >>>> be
> >>>> > >> headed your way. Even shipped from Zimbabwe, it'll be cheaper and
> >>>> less
> >>>> > >> painful than bodywork. And I too was an impecunious college
> >>>> student when I
> >>>> > >> bought my Z online and had it shipped. The fact was that I really,
> >>>> really
> >>>> > >> wanted a solid car (after having owned a rotten one) and I figured
> >>>> I could
> >>>> > >> deal with mechanicals, but not proper bodywork. After a few years
> >>>> of
> >>>> > >> working and dutiful saving (no beer, no vacations, very used
> >>>> textbooks,
> >>>> > >> taking the bus, etc.), it was a delightful moment when my car
> >>>> arrived.
> >>>> > >> The KEY with a long distance sale is rapport with the seller. Lots
> >>>> of
> >>>> > >> pictures, phone conversations, etc. Even then I was still a bit
> >>>> nervous
> >>>> > >> until my car showed up. But the seller had been very fair in his
> >>>> > >> descriptions.
> >>>> > >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> >>>> > >>> **
> >>>> > >>> My mistake the car is in Tucson AZ. I was just in Tucson a few
> >>>> days
> >>>> > >>> ago I wish I would have known about it cuz I would have checked
> >>>> it out for
> >>>> > >>> myself.
> >>>> > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> >>>> > >>> ---------------------------------------
> >>>> > >>> PRG Nocturne
> >>>> > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> >>>> > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> >>>> > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> >>>> > >>> egeiger@
> >>>> > >>> www.prgnocturne.com
> >>>> > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Eric Geiger"
> >>>> > >>> wrote:
> >>>> > >>> There's a z600 on eBay right now. Green in TX going for 1200.
> >>>> Looks
> >>>> > >>> to be pretty clean minimal rust. Not much of a description though
> >>>> about
> >>>> > >>> what's going on with it. That might be a good starter car. I
> >>>> think it
> >>>> > >>> has new tires so atleast it should roll.
> >>>> > >>> I've used uship before to ship cars with decent results. It's
> >>>> pretty
> >>>> > >>> much like eBay for shipping anything. People will bid on your
> >>>> shipment.
> >>>> > >>> You can go on the website and atleast get some estimates. Make a
> >>>> dummy
> >>>> > >>> listing to see what people quote you to ship it.
> >>>> > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> >>>> > >>> ---------------------------------------
> >>>> > >>> PRG Nocturne
> >>>> > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> >>>> > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> >>>> > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> >>>> > >>> egeiger@
> >>>> > >>> www.prgnocturne.com
> >>>> > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 10:56 AM, "Becky Flynn" wrote:
> >>>> > >>> My budget is around $2000. If I could afford to ship it too me
> >>>> I'd have
> >>>> > >>> a less rusty one.
> >>>> > >>> On May 9, 2013 9:04 AM, "Eric Geiger" wrote:
> >>>> > >>>> **
> >>>> > >>>> What's your budget Becky? Maybe someone here has a car they're
> >>>> sitting
> >>>> > >>>> on that they might be willing to part with. Like I said I have
> >>>> 2-3 extra
> >>>> > >>>> cars that I need to part with atleast one. Someone very well may
> >>>> have one
> >>>> > >>>> they could get running so that you already have a running car to
> >>>> start with
> >>>> > >>>> and maybe just needs a brake job and some minor repairs to be
> >>>> road worthy.
> >>>> > >>>> Might not be the nicest looking but you can make it your own
> >>>> then still.
> >>>> > >>>> Eric J. Geiger
> >>>> > >>>> ---------------------------------------
> >>>> > >>>> PRG Nocturne
> >>>> > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> >>>> > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> >>>> > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> >>>> > >>>> egeiger@
> >>>> > >>>> www.prgnocturne.com
> >>>> > >>>> On May 9, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Chas" wrote:
> >>>> > >>>> Hi Becky,
> >>>> > >>>> Don't buy a rusty Honda Z600. It is just not worth the effort as
> >>>> much
> >>>> > >>>> nicer cars are just not that expensive. I don't know what your
> >>>> budget is
> >>>> > >>>> but I have five Z600's and I was thinking about parting with one
> >>>> or two of
> >>>> > >>>> them. They are all very noce cars from a very nice original that
> >>>> needs a
> >>>> > >>>> little work to two very nice running driving cars, to a car that
> >>>> is 85%
> >>>> > >>>> restored and just needs finishing. If you are serious about
> >>>> buying a Z600,
> >>>> > >>>> please contact me and we can arrange to get you up here to have
> >>>> a look.
> >>>> > >>>> Also, we host the Gould's Annual Microcar & Minicar Classic
> >>>> Event here
> >>>> > >>>> in Newton (near Boston), Massachusetts on July 12, 13 and 14,
> >>>> 2013. You are
> >>>> > >>>> welcome to attend and see all of the unusual microcars and
> >>>> minicars that
> >>>> > >>>> attend this European style driving event. Everyone else is also
> >>>> invited. It
> >>>> > >>>> is three days of microcar lunacy including four driving tours,
> >>>> activities,
> >>>> > >>>> parties, Memphis barbecue, frozen Margarita party and much, much
> >>>> more.
> >>>> > >>>> Check out all of the details at www.bubbledrome.com
> >>>> > >>>> Chas
> >>>> > >>>> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn >>>> > >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks
> >>>> pretty
> >>>> > >>>> > rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The
> >>>> only
> >>>> > >>>> thing I'm
> >>>> > >>>> > worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know
> >>>> if I
> >>>> > >>>> should
> >>>> > >>>> > continue to save money and see if something better comes
> >>>> along, or go
> >>>> > >>>> with
> >>>> > >>>> > it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> >>>> > >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>> > > **
> >>>> > >>>> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> >>>> > >>>> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows
> >>>> the 600
> >>>> > >>>> cars
> >>>> > >>>> > > backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact --
> >>>> I'm
> >>>> > >>>> also
> >>>> > >>>> > > located in NC.)
> >>>> > >>>> > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little
> >>>> cars.
> >>>> > >>>> The
> >>>> > >>>> > > stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before they
> >>>> > >>>> stretch and
> >>>> > >>>> > > eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that
> >>>> > >>>> happens, the
> >>>> > >>>> > > valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care of
> >>>> during
> >>>> > >>>> an engine
> >>>> > >>>> > > rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with
> >>>> heavier
> >>>> > >>>> racing chain
> >>>> > >>>> > > that should last a lot longer.
> >>>> > >>>> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in until
> >>>> a
> >>>> > >>>> > > knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that
> >>>> assessment
> >>>> > >>>> can't be
> >>>> > >>>> > > done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's
> >>>> always
> >>>> > >>>> possible
> >>>> > >>>> > > that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the
> >>>> engine with
> >>>> > >>>> too
> >>>> > >>>> > > little oil, causing much internal wear.
> >>>> > >>>> > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few
> >>>> things,
> >>>> > >>>> you might
> >>>> > >>>> > > be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent
> >>>> valves,
> >>>> > >>>> if
> >>>> > >>>> > > you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be
> >>>> > >>>> unknown until
> >>>> > >>>> > > somebody looks inside it.
> >>>> > >>>> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full
> >>>> engine
> >>>> > >>>> rebuild,
> >>>> > >>>> > > or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few thousand
> >>>> $$$
> >>>> > >>>> (~$3k,
> >>>> > >>>> > > maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the
> >>>> car if
> >>>> > >>>> you'll
> >>>> > >>>> > > have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> >>>> > >>>> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are
> >>>> probably
> >>>> > >>>> not in
> >>>> > >>>> > > very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good
> >>>> bit of
> >>>> > >>>> work
> >>>> > >>>> > > too.
> >>>> > >>>> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for
> >>>> rusted
> >>>> > >>>> places.
> >>>> > >>>> > > Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a
> >>>> good
> >>>> > >>>> idea to
> >>>> > >>>> > > check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the body
> >>>> may
> >>>> > >>>> look good,
> >>>> > >>>> > > but the underside could be a different story. So look
> >>>> carefully.
> >>>> > >>>> > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and
> >>>> fix up
> >>>> > >>>> the car!
> >>>> > >>>> > > Richard

[Eric Geiger]

Completely agreed. I'd be hard pressed to help anyone else out if they stole this one from under you.  I'd try and get out there ASAP or send him a deposit even though you haven't seen it.  For 1200$ it's worth it from first look.
She's obviously searching the Internet constantly and deserves to have this car be her first of what we all know won't be her last.
Eric J. Geiger
---------------------------------------
PRG Nocturne
XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
egeiger@...
www.prgnocturne.com

On May 11, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Chas" wrote:
I hope that ALL of the people on this list will respect Becky's priority on this car, and that she has scoped it out for her first acquisition into Honda 600 ownership. Please, please do not buy this out from under her, or even call the seller who might then increase his price as a result of increased demand.
Becky, Tie this one up quickly before someone else does. It is well worth the asking price, even sight unseen!
Chas
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn wrote:
> Here is the add for it. Found it late tonight so, I'll call tomorrow about
> it.
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/XXX-XXX-XXXX.html
> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > **
> > Unfortunately I'm like 3 hours from there. I'm sure if you can get some
> > photos there will be some people more than willing to chime in and give an
> > opinion.
> > Eric J. Geiger
> > ---------------------------------------
> > PRG Nocturne
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > egeiger@...
www.prgnocturne.com
> > On May 10, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Becky Flynn" wrote:
> > It's in Florence, SC. He wants $1200 for it I think.
> > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> >> **
> >> where in SC I'm here now for work might be able to check it out for you.
> >> Eric J. Geiger
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *PRG Nocturne*
> >> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> >> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> >> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> >> egeiger@...
www.prgnocturne.com
> >> On May 10, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> >> I've found one close by in SC. It's complete and looks to have zero
> >> rust. So if all goes well I'll have this little guy before the end of next
> >> week.
> >> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> >>> I've been looking in other places. It's just the amount of money it
> >>> would cost to drive and pick it up. My dad and brother think I'm weird
> >>> because I like these types of cars.
> >>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Mike wrote:
> >>>> **
> >>>> Becky,
> >>>> I highly recommend expanding your search to farther places. Tennessee
> >>>> is a place where cars tend to rust due to the winters.
> >>>> I travelled almost 1400 miles to get my Honda when I finally found a
> >>>> good one.
> >>>> Travelling far to get a treasure that you really want can be a really
> >>>> fun adventure to.
> >>>> good luck.
> >>>> Mike.
> >>>> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > Although, if any of you have one you are willing to sell. I'm
> >>>> definitely
> >>>> > interested.
> >>>> > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> >>>> > > There are a few in Ga, but they don't run and no matter how good it
> >>>> looks
> >>>> > > on the outside, I don't want to pay a ton for something that's not
> >>>> running.
> >>>> > > It's just frustrating because I want one now. The thought of
> >>>> waiting a full
> >>>> > > year just kills me.
> >>>> > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Elias Baldwin >>>> ...>wrote:
> >>>> > >> **
> >>>> > >> Eric's right. Uship found an independent hauler (guy with Ford
> >>>> F-250 and
> >>>> > >> trailer) for my Z that wasn't terribly expensive. You may have to
> >>>> wait a
> >>>> > >> bit, but someone somewhere will have an empty truck or trailer and
> >>>> be
> >>>> > >> headed your way. Even shipped from Zimbabwe, it'll be cheaper and
> >>>> less
> >>>> > >> painful than bodywork. And I too was an impecunious college
> >>>> student when I
> >>>> > >> bought my Z online and had it shipped. The fact was that I really,
> >>>> really
> >>>> > >> wanted a solid car (after having owned a rotten one) and I figured
> >>>> I could
> >>>> > >> deal with mechanicals, but not proper bodywork. After a few years
> >>>> of
> >>>> > >> working and dutiful saving (no beer, no vacations, very used
> >>>> textbooks,
> >>>> > >> taking the bus, etc.), it was a delightful moment when my car
> >>>> arrived.
> >>>> > >> The KEY with a long distance sale is rapport with the seller. Lots
> >>>> of
> >>>> > >> pictures, phone conversations, etc. Even then I was still a bit
> >>>> nervous
> >>>> > >> until my car showed up. But the seller had been very fair in his
> >>>> > >> descriptions.
> >>>> > >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> >>>> > >>> **
> >>>> > >>> My mistake the car is in Tucson AZ. I was just in Tucson a few
> >>>> days
> >>>> > >>> ago I wish I would have known about it cuz I would have checked
> >>>> it out for
> >>>> > >>> myself.
> >>>> > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> >>>> > >>> ---------------------------------------
> >>>> > >>> PRG Nocturne
> >>>> > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> >>>> > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> >>>> > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> >>>> > >>> egeiger@
www.prgnocturne.com
> >>>> > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Eric Geiger"
> >>>> > >>> wrote:
> >>>> > >>> There's a z600 on eBay right now. Green in TX going for 1200.
> >>>> Looks
> >>>> > >>> to be pretty clean minimal rust. Not much of a description though
> >>>> about
> >>>> > >>> what's going on with it. That might be a good starter car. I
> >>>> think it
> >>>> > >>> has new tires so atleast it should roll.
> >>>> > >>> I've used uship before to ship cars with decent results. It's
> >>>> pretty
> >>>> > >>> much like eBay for shipping anything. People will bid on your
> >>>> shipment.
> >>>> > >>> You can go on the website and atleast get some estimates. Make a
> >>>> dummy
> >>>> > >>> listing to see what people quote you to ship it.
> >>>> > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> >>>> > >>> ---------------------------------------
> >>>> > >>> PRG Nocturne
> >>>> > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> >>>> > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> >>>> > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> >>>> > >>> egeiger@
www.prgnocturne.com
> >>>> > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 10:56 AM, "Becky Flynn" wrote:
> >>>> > >>> My budget is around $2000. If I could afford to ship it too me
> >>>> I'd have
> >>>> > >>> a less rusty one.
> >>>> > >>> On May 9, 2013 9:04 AM, "Eric Geiger" wrote:
> >>>> > >>>> **
> >>>> > >>>> What's your budget Becky? Maybe someone here has a car they're
> >>>> sitting
> >>>> > >>>> on that they might be willing to part with. Like I said I have
> >>>> 2-3 extra
> >>>> > >>>> cars that I need to part with atleast one. Someone very well may
> >>>> have one
> >>>> > >>>> they could get running so that you already have a running car to
> >>>> start with
> >>>> > >>>> and maybe just needs a brake job and some minor repairs to be
> >>>> road worthy.
> >>>> > >>>> Might not be the nicest looking but you can make it your own
> >>>> then still.
> >>>> > >>>> Eric J. Geiger
> >>>> > >>>> ---------------------------------------
> >>>> > >>>> PRG Nocturne
> >>>> > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> >>>> > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> >>>> > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> >>>> > >>>> egeiger@
www.prgnocturne.com
> >>>> > >>>> On May 9, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Chas" wrote:
> >>>> > >>>> Hi Becky,
> >>>> > >>>> Don't buy a rusty Honda Z600. It is just not worth the effort as
> >>>> much
> >>>> > >>>> nicer cars are just not that expensive. I don't know what your
> >>>> budget is
> >>>> > >>>> but I have five Z600's and I was thinking about parting with one
> >>>> or two of
> >>>> > >>>> them. They are all very noce cars from a very nice original that
> >>>> needs a
> >>>> > >>>> little work to two very nice running driving cars, to a car that
> >>>> is 85%
> >>>> > >>>> restored and just needs finishing. If you are serious about
> >>>> buying a Z600,
> >>>> > >>>> please contact me and we can arrange to get you up here to have
> >>>> a look.
> >>>> > >>>> Also, we host the Gould's Annual Microcar & Minicar Classic
> >>>> Event here
> >>>> > >>>> in Newton (near Boston), Massachusetts on July 12, 13 and 14,
> >>>> 2013. You are
> >>>> > >>>> welcome to attend and see all of the unusual microcars and
> >>>> minicars that
> >>>> > >>>> attend this European style driving event. Everyone else is also
> >>>> invited. It
> >>>> > >>>> is three days of microcar lunacy including four driving tours,
> >>>> activities,
> >>>> > >>>> parties, Memphis barbecue, frozen Margarita party and much, much
> >>>> more.
> >>>> > >>>> Check out all of the details at
www.bubbledrome.com
> >>>> > >>>> Chas
> >>>> > >>>> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn >>>> > >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks
> >>>> pretty
> >>>> > >>>> > rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The
> >>>> only
> >>>> > >>>> thing I'm
> >>>> > >>>> > worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know
> >>>> if I
> >>>> > >>>> should
> >>>> > >>>> > continue to save money and see if something better comes
> >>>> along, or go
> >>>> > >>>> with
> >>>> > >>>> > it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> >>>> > >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>> > > **
> >>>> > >>>> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> >>>> > >>>> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows
> >>>> the 600
> >>>> > >>>> cars
> >>>> > >>>> > > backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact --
> >>>> I'm
> >>>> > >>>> also
> >>>> > >>>> > > located in NC.)
> >>>> > >>>> > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little
> >>>> cars.
> >>>> > >>>> The
> >>>> > >>>> > > stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before they
> >>>> > >>>> stretch and
> >>>> > >>>> > > eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that
> >>>> > >>>> happens, the
> >>>> > >>>> > > valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care of
> >>>> during
> >>>> > >>>> an engine
> >>>> > >>>> > > rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with
> >>>> heavier
> >>>> > >>>> racing chain
> >>>> > >>>> > > that should last a lot longer.
> >>>> > >>>> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in until
> >>>> a
> >>>> > >>>> > > knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that
> >>>> assessment
> >>>> > >>>> can't be
> >>>> > >>>> > > done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's
> >>>> always
> >>>> > >>>> possible
> >>>> > >>>> > > that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the
> >>>> engine with
> >>>> > >>>> too
> >>>> > >>>> > > little oil, causing much internal wear.
> >>>> > >>>> > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few
> >>>> things,
> >>>> > >>>> you might
> >>>> > >>>> > > be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent
> >>>> valves,
> >>>> > >>>> if
> >>>> > >>>> > > you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be
> >>>> > >>>> unknown until
> >>>> > >>>> > > somebody looks inside it.
> >>>> > >>>> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full
> >>>> engine
> >>>> > >>>> rebuild,
> >>>> > >>>> > > or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few thousand
> >>>> $$$
> >>>> > >>>> (~$3k,
> >>>> > >>>> > > maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the
> >>>> car if
> >>>> > >>>> you'll
> >>>> > >>>> > > have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> >>>> > >>>> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are
> >>>> probably
> >>>> > >>>> not in
> >>>> > >>>> > > very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good
> >>>> bit of
> >>>> > >>>> work
> >>>> > >>>> > > too.
> >>>> > >>>> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for
> >>>> rusted
> >>>> > >>>> places.
> >>>> > >>>> > > Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a
> >>>> good
> >>>> > >>>> idea to
> >>>> > >>>> > > check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the body
> >>>> may
> >>>> > >>>> look good,
> >>>> > >>>> > > but the underside could be a different story. So look
> >>>> carefully.
> >>>> > >>>> > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and
> >>>> fix up
> >>>> > >>>> the car!
> >>>> > >>>> > > Richard

[Mike]

If you don't mind me asking, have you ever driven one of these cars? Just curious.

--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn wrote:
> I've been looking in other places. It's just the amount of money it would
> cost to drive and pick it up. My dad and brother think I'm weird because I
> like these types of cars.
> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Mike wrote:
> > **
> > Becky,
> > I highly recommend expanding your search to farther places. Tennessee is a
> > place where cars tend to rust due to the winters.
> > I travelled almost 1400 miles to get my Honda when I finally found a good
> > one.
> > Travelling far to get a treasure that you really want can be a really fun
> > adventure to.
> > good luck.
> > Mike.
> > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > wrote:
> > > Although, if any of you have one you are willing to sell. I'm definitely
> > > interested.
> > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > > There are a few in Ga, but they don't run and no matter how good it
> > looks
> > > > on the outside, I don't want to pay a ton for something that's not
> > running.
> > > > It's just frustrating because I want one now. The thought of waiting a
> > full
> > > > year just kills me.
> > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Elias Baldwin > ...>wrote:
> > > >> **
> > > >> Eric's right. Uship found an independent hauler (guy with Ford F-250
> > and
> > > >> trailer) for my Z that wasn't terribly expensive. You may have to
> > wait a
> > > >> bit, but someone somewhere will have an empty truck or trailer and be
> > > >> headed your way. Even shipped from Zimbabwe, it'll be cheaper and less
> > > >> painful than bodywork. And I too was an impecunious college student
> > when I
> > > >> bought my Z online and had it shipped. The fact was that I really,
> > really
> > > >> wanted a solid car (after having owned a rotten one) and I figured I
> > could
> > > >> deal with mechanicals, but not proper bodywork. After a few years of
> > > >> working and dutiful saving (no beer, no vacations, very used
> > textbooks,
> > > >> taking the bus, etc.), it was a delightful moment when my car arrived.
> > > >> The KEY with a long distance sale is rapport with the seller. Lots of
> > > >> pictures, phone conversations, etc. Even then I was still a bit
> > nervous
> > > >> until my car showed up. But the seller had been very fair in his
> > > >> descriptions.
> > > >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > >>> **
> > > >>> My mistake the car is in Tucson AZ. I was just in Tucson a few days
> > > >>> ago I wish I would have known about it cuz I would have checked it
> > out for
> > > >>> myself.
> > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > >>> egeiger@
> > > >>> www.prgnocturne.com
> > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Eric Geiger"
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>> There's a z600 on eBay right now. Green in TX going for 1200. Looks
> > > >>> to be pretty clean minimal rust. Not much of a description though
> > about
> > > >>> what's going on with it. That might be a good starter car. I think it
> > > >>> has new tires so atleast it should roll.
> > > >>> I've used uship before to ship cars with decent results. It's pretty
> > > >>> much like eBay for shipping anything. People will bid on your
> > shipment.
> > > >>> You can go on the website and atleast get some estimates. Make a
> > dummy
> > > >>> listing to see what people quote you to ship it.
> > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > >>> egeiger@
> > > >>> www.prgnocturne.com
> > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 10:56 AM, "Becky Flynn" wrote:
> > > >>> My budget is around $2000. If I could afford to ship it too me I'd
> > have
> > > >>> a less rusty one.
> > > >>> On May 9, 2013 9:04 AM, "Eric Geiger" wrote:
> > > >>>> **
> > > >>>> What's your budget Becky? Maybe someone here has a car they're
> > sitting
> > > >>>> on that they might be willing to part with. Like I said I have 2-3
> > extra
> > > >>>> cars that I need to part with atleast one. Someone very well may
> > have one
> > > >>>> they could get running so that you already have a running car to
> > start with
> > > >>>> and maybe just needs a brake job and some minor repairs to be road
> > worthy.
> > > >>>> Might not be the nicest looking but you can make it your own then
> > still.
> > > >>>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > >>>> ---------------------------------------
> > > >>>> PRG Nocturne
> > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > >>>> egeiger@
> > > >>>> www.prgnocturne.com
> > > >>>> On May 9, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Chas" wrote:
> > > >>>> Hi Becky,
> > > >>>> Don't buy a rusty Honda Z600. It is just not worth the effort as
> > much
> > > >>>> nicer cars are just not that expensive. I don't know what your
> > budget is
> > > >>>> but I have five Z600's and I was thinking about parting with one or
> > two of
> > > >>>> them. They are all very noce cars from a very nice original that
> > needs a
> > > >>>> little work to two very nice running driving cars, to a car that is
> > 85%
> > > >>>> restored and just needs finishing. If you are serious about buying
> > a Z600,
> > > >>>> please contact me and we can arrange to get you up here to have a
> > look.
> > > >>>> Also, we host the Gould's Annual Microcar & Minicar Classic Event
> > here
> > > >>>> in Newton (near Boston), Massachusetts on July 12, 13 and 14, 2013.
> > You are
> > > >>>> welcome to attend and see all of the unusual microcars and minicars
> > that
> > > >>>> attend this European style driving event. Everyone else is also
> > invited. It
> > > >>>> is three days of microcar lunacy including four driving tours,
> > activities,
> > > >>>> parties, Memphis barbecue, frozen Margarita party and much, much
> > more.
> > > >>>> Check out all of the details at www.bubbledrome.com
> > > >>>> Chas
> > > >>>> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks
> > pretty
> > > >>>> > rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The only
> > > >>>> thing I'm
> > > >>>> > worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know if I
> > > >>>> should
> > > >>>> > continue to save money and see if something better comes along,
> > or go
> > > >>>> with
> > > >>>> > it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > > >>>> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>> > > **
> > > >>>> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > >>>> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows the
> > 600
> > > >>>> cars
> > > >>>> > > backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact -- I'm
> > > >>>> also
> > > >>>> > > located in NC.)
> > > >>>> > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little
> > cars.
> > > >>>> The
> > > >>>> > > stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before they
> > > >>>> stretch and
> > > >>>> > > eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that
> > > >>>> happens, the
> > > >>>> > > valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care of
> > during
> > > >>>> an engine
> > > >>>> > > rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with heavier
> > > >>>> racing chain
> > > >>>> > > that should last a lot longer.
> > > >>>> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in until a
> > > >>>> > > knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that assessment
> > > >>>> can't be
> > > >>>> > > done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's
> > always
> > > >>>> possible
> > > >>>> > > that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the engine
> > with
> > > >>>> too
> > > >>>> > > little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > >>>> > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few things,
> > > >>>> you might
> > > >>>> > > be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent
> > valves,
> > > >>>> if
> > > >>>> > > you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be
> > > >>>> unknown until
> > > >>>> > > somebody looks inside it.
> > > >>>> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full engine
> > > >>>> rebuild,
> > > >>>> > > or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few thousand $$$
> > > >>>> (~$3k,
> > > >>>> > > maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the
> > car if
> > > >>>> you'll
> > > >>>> > > have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> > > >>>> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are probably
> > > >>>> not in
> > > >>>> > > very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good
> > bit of
> > > >>>> work
> > > >>>> > > too.
> > > >>>> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for rusted
> > > >>>> places.
> > > >>>> > > Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a
> > good
> > > >>>> idea to
> > > >>>> > > check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the body may
> > > >>>> look good,
> > > >>>> > > but the underside could be a different story. So look carefully.
> > > >>>> > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and fix
> > up
> > > >>>> the car!
> > > >>>> > > Richard

[Becky Flynn]

I have not driven one.

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Mike
�
> If you don't mind me asking, have you ever driven one of these cars? Just curious.
> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> , Becky Flynn wrote:
> > I've been looking in other places. It's just the amount of money it would
> > cost to drive and pick it up. My dad and brother think I'm weird because I
> > like these types of cars.
> > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > **
> > > Becky,
> > > I highly recommend expanding your search to farther places. Tennessee is a
> > > place where cars tend to rust due to the winters.
> > > I travelled almost 1400 miles to get my Honda when I finally found a good
> > > one.
> > > Travelling far to get a treasure that you really want can be a really fun
> > > adventure to.
> > > good luck.
> > > Mike.
> > > --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> , Becky Flynn
> > > wrote:
> > > > Although, if any of you have one you are willing to sell. I'm definitely
> > > > interested.
> > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > > > There are a few in Ga, but they don't run and no matter how good it
> > > looks
> > > > > on the outside, I don't want to pay a ton for something that's not
> > > running.
> > > > > It's just frustrating because I want one now. The thought of waiting a
> > > full
> > > > > year just kills me.
> > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Elias Baldwin > > ...>wrote:
> > > > >> **
> > > > >> Eric's right. Uship found an independent hauler (guy with Ford F-250
> > > and
> > > > >> trailer) for my Z that wasn't terribly expensive. You may have to
> > > wait a
> > > > >> bit, but someone somewhere will have an empty truck or trailer and be
> > > > >> headed your way. Even shipped from Zimbabwe, it'll be cheaper and less
> > > > >> painful than bodywork. And I too was an impecunious college student
> > > when I
> > > > >> bought my Z online and had it shipped. The fact was that I really,
> > > really
> > > > >> wanted a solid car (after having owned a rotten one) and I figured I
> > > could
> > > > >> deal with mechanicals, but not proper bodywork. After a few years of
> > > > >> working and dutiful saving (no beer, no vacations, very used
> > > textbooks,
> > > > >> taking the bus, etc.), it was a delightful moment when my car arrived.
> > > > >> The KEY with a long distance sale is rapport with the seller. Lots of
> > > > >> pictures, phone conversations, etc. Even then I was still a bit
> > > nervous
> > > > >> until my car showed up. But the seller had been very fair in his
> > > > >> descriptions.
> > > > >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > >>> **
> > > > >>> My mistake the car is in Tucson AZ. I was just in Tucson a few days
> > > > >>> ago I wish I would have known about it cuz I would have checked it
> > > out for
> > > > >>> myself.
> > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> phone
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> fax
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> mobile
> > > > >>> egeiger@
> www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Eric Geiger"
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>> There's a z600 on eBay right now. Green in TX going for 1200. Looks
> > > > >>> to be pretty clean minimal rust. Not much of a description though
> > > about
> > > > >>> what's going on with it. That might be a good starter car. I think it
> > > > >>> has new tires so atleast it should roll.
> > > > >>> I've used uship before to ship cars with decent results. It's pretty
> > > > >>> much like eBay for shipping anything. People will bid on your
> > > shipment.
> > > > >>> You can go on the website and atleast get some estimates. Make a
> > > dummy
> > > > >>> listing to see what people quote you to ship it.
> > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> phone
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> fax
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> mobile
> > > > >>> egeiger@
> www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 10:56 AM, "Becky Flynn" wrote:
> > > > >>> My budget is around $2000. If I could afford to ship it too me I'd
> > > have
> > > > >>> a less rusty one.
> > > > >>> On May 9, 2013 9:04 AM, "Eric Geiger" wrote:
> > > > >>>> **
> > > > >>>> What's your budget Becky? Maybe someone here has a car they're
> > > sitting
> > > > >>>> on that they might be willing to part with. Like I said I have 2-3
> > > extra
> > > > >>>> cars that I need to part with atleast one. Someone very well may
> > > have one
> > > > >>>> they could get running so that you already have a running car to
> > > start with
> > > > >>>> and maybe just needs a brake job and some minor repairs to be road
> > > worthy.
> > > > >>>> Might not be the nicest looking but you can make it your own then
> > > still.
> > > > >>>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > >>>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > >>>> PRG Nocturne
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> phone
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> fax
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> mobile
> > > > >>>> egeiger@
> www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > >>>> On May 9, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Chas" wrote:
> > > > >>>> Hi Becky,
> > > > >>>> Don't buy a rusty Honda Z600. It is just not worth the effort as
> > > much
> > > > >>>> nicer cars are just not that expensive. I don't know what your
> > > budget is
> > > > >>>> but I have five Z600's and I was thinking about parting with one or
> > > two of
> > > > >>>> them. They are all very noce cars from a very nice original that
> > > needs a
> > > > >>>> little work to two very nice running driving cars, to a car that is
> > > 85%
> > > > >>>> restored and just needs finishing. If you are serious about buying
> > > a Z600,
> > > > >>>> please contact me and we can arrange to get you up here to have a
> > > look.
> > > > >>>> Also, we host the Gould's Annual Microcar & Minicar Classic Event
> > > here
> > > > >>>> in Newton (near Boston), Massachusetts on July 12, 13 and 14, 2013.
> > > You are
> > > > >>>> welcome to attend and see all of the unusual microcars and minicars
> > > that
> > > > >>>> attend this European style driving event. Everyone else is also
> > > invited. It
> > > > >>>> is three days of microcar lunacy including four driving tours,
> > > activities,
> > > > >>>> parties, Memphis barbecue, frozen Margarita party and much, much
> > > more.
> > > > >>>> Check out all of the details at
> www.bubbledrome.com
> > > > >>>> Chas
> > > > >>>> --- In
> anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> , Becky Flynn
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks
> > > pretty
> > > > >>>> > rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The only
> > > > >>>> thing I'm
> > > > >>>> > worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know if I
> > > > >>>> should
> > > > >>>> > continue to save money and see if something better comes along,
> > > or go
> > > > >>>> with
> > > > >>>> > it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > > > >>>> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>> > > **
> > > > >>>> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > > >>>> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows the
> > > 600
> > > > >>>> cars
> > > > >>>> > > backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact -- I'm
> > > > >>>> also
> > > > >>>> > > located in NC.)
> > > > >>>> > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little
> > > cars.
> > > > >>>> The
> > > > >>>> > > stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before they
> > > > >>>> stretch and
> > > > >>>> > > eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that
> > > > >>>> happens, the
> > > > >>>> > > valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care of
> > > during
> > > > >>>> an engine
> > > > >>>> > > rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with heavier
> > > > >>>> racing chain
> > > > >>>> > > that should last a lot longer.
> > > > >>>> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in until a
> > > > >>>> > > knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that assessment
> > > > >>>> can't be
> > > > >>>> > > done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's
> > > always
> > > > >>>> possible
> > > > >>>> > > that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the engine
> > > with
> > > > >>>> too
> > > > >>>> > > little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > > >>>> > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few things,
> > > > >>>> you might
> > > > >>>> > > be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent
> > > valves,
> > > > >>>> if
> > > > >>>> > > you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be
> > > > >>>> unknown until
> > > > >>>> > > somebody looks inside it.
> > > > >>>> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full engine
> > > > >>>> rebuild,
> > > > >>>> > > or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few thousand $$$
> > > > >>>> (~$3k,
> > > > >>>> > > maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the
> > > car if
> > > > >>>> you'll
> > > > >>>> > > have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> > > > >>>> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are probably
> > > > >>>> not in
> > > > >>>> > > very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good
> > > bit of
> > > > >>>> work
> > > > >>>> > > too.
> > > > >>>> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for rusted
> > > > >>>> places.
> > > > >>>> > > Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a
> > > good
> > > > >>>> idea to
> > > > >>>> > > check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the body may
> > > > >>>> look good,
> > > > >>>> > > but the underside could be a different story. So look carefully.
> > > > >>>> > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and fix
> > > up
> > > > >>>> the car!
> > > > >>>> > > Richard

[Mike]

Oh boy. I hope you don't like going really fast all the time. Don't get me wrong, these cars can certainly get up and go, but they're not exactly hot rods.
:)

--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn wrote:
> I have not driven one.
> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Mike wrote:
> > **
> > If you don't mind me asking, have you ever driven one of these cars? Just
> > curious.
> > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > wrote:
> > > I've been looking in other places. It's just the amount of money it would
> > > cost to drive and pick it up. My dad and brother think I'm weird because
> > I
> > > like these types of cars.
> > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > > **
> > > > Becky,
> > > > I highly recommend expanding your search to farther places. Tennessee
> > is a
> > > > place where cars tend to rust due to the winters.
> > > > I travelled almost 1400 miles to get my Honda when I finally found a
> > good
> > > > one.
> > > > Travelling far to get a treasure that you really want can be a really
> > fun
> > > > adventure to.
> > > > good luck.
> > > > Mike.
> > > > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Although, if any of you have one you are willing to sell. I'm
> > definitely
> > > > > interested.
> > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > > > > There are a few in Ga, but they don't run and no matter how good it
> > > > looks
> > > > > > on the outside, I don't want to pay a ton for something that's not
> > > > running.
> > > > > > It's just frustrating because I want one now. The thought of
> > waiting a
> > > > full
> > > > > > year just kills me.
> > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Elias Baldwin > > > ...>wrote:
> > > > > >> **
> > > > > >> Eric's right. Uship found an independent hauler (guy with Ford
> > F-250
> > > > and
> > > > > >> trailer) for my Z that wasn't terribly expensive. You may have to
> > > > wait a
> > > > > >> bit, but someone somewhere will have an empty truck or trailer
> > and be
> > > > > >> headed your way. Even shipped from Zimbabwe, it'll be cheaper and
> > less
> > > > > >> painful than bodywork. And I too was an impecunious college
> > student
> > > > when I
> > > > > >> bought my Z online and had it shipped. The fact was that I really,
> > > > really
> > > > > >> wanted a solid car (after having owned a rotten one) and I
> > figured I
> > > > could
> > > > > >> deal with mechanicals, but not proper bodywork. After a few years
> > of
> > > > > >> working and dutiful saving (no beer, no vacations, very used
> > > > textbooks,
> > > > > >> taking the bus, etc.), it was a delightful moment when my car
> > arrived.
> > > > > >> The KEY with a long distance sale is rapport with the seller.
> > Lots of
> > > > > >> pictures, phone conversations, etc. Even then I was still a bit
> > > > nervous
> > > > > >> until my car showed up. But the seller had been very fair in his
> > > > > >> descriptions.
> > > > > >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > > >>> **
> > > > > >>> My mistake the car is in Tucson AZ. I was just in Tucson a few
> > days
> > > > > >>> ago I wish I would have known about it cuz I would have checked
> > it
> > > > out for
> > > > > >>> myself.
> > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > >>> egeiger@
> > > > > >>> www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Eric Geiger"
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>> There's a z600 on eBay right now. Green in TX going for 1200.
> > Looks
> > > > > >>> to be pretty clean minimal rust. Not much of a description though
> > > > about
> > > > > >>> what's going on with it. That might be a good starter car. I
> > think it
> > > > > >>> has new tires so atleast it should roll.
> > > > > >>> I've used uship before to ship cars with decent results. It's
> > pretty
> > > > > >>> much like eBay for shipping anything. People will bid on your
> > > > shipment.
> > > > > >>> You can go on the website and atleast get some estimates. Make a
> > > > dummy
> > > > > >>> listing to see what people quote you to ship it.
> > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > >>> egeiger@
> > > > > >>> www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 10:56 AM, "Becky Flynn" wrote:
> > > > > >>> My budget is around $2000. If I could afford to ship it too me
> > I'd
> > > > have
> > > > > >>> a less rusty one.
> > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013 9:04 AM, "Eric Geiger" wrote:
> > > > > >>>> **
> > > > > >>>> What's your budget Becky? Maybe someone here has a car they're
> > > > sitting
> > > > > >>>> on that they might be willing to part with. Like I said I have
> > 2-3
> > > > extra
> > > > > >>>> cars that I need to part with atleast one. Someone very well may
> > > > have one
> > > > > >>>> they could get running so that you already have a running car to
> > > > start with
> > > > > >>>> and maybe just needs a brake job and some minor repairs to be
> > road
> > > > worthy.
> > > > > >>>> Might not be the nicest looking but you can make it your own
> > then
> > > > still.
> > > > > >>>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > >>>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > >>>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > >>>> egeiger@
> > > > > >>>> www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > >>>> On May 9, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Chas" wrote:
> > > > > >>>> Hi Becky,
> > > > > >>>> Don't buy a rusty Honda Z600. It is just not worth the effort as
> > > > much
> > > > > >>>> nicer cars are just not that expensive. I don't know what your
> > > > budget is
> > > > > >>>> but I have five Z600's and I was thinking about parting with
> > one or
> > > > two of
> > > > > >>>> them. They are all very noce cars from a very nice original that
> > > > needs a
> > > > > >>>> little work to two very nice running driving cars, to a car
> > that is
> > > > 85%
> > > > > >>>> restored and just needs finishing. If you are serious about
> > buying
> > > > a Z600,
> > > > > >>>> please contact me and we can arrange to get you up here to have
> > a
> > > > look.
> > > > > >>>> Also, we host the Gould's Annual Microcar & Minicar Classic
> > Event
> > > > here
> > > > > >>>> in Newton (near Boston), Massachusetts on July 12, 13 and 14,
> > 2013.
> > > > You are
> > > > > >>>> welcome to attend and see all of the unusual microcars and
> > minicars
> > > > that
> > > > > >>>> attend this European style driving event. Everyone else is also
> > > > invited. It
> > > > > >>>> is three days of microcar lunacy including four driving tours,
> > > > activities,
> > > > > >>>> parties, Memphis barbecue, frozen Margarita party and much, much
> > > > more.
> > > > > >>>> Check out all of the details at www.bubbledrome.com
> > > > > >>>> Chas
> > > > > >>>> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> >
> > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks
> > > > pretty
> > > > > >>>> > rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The
> > only
> > > > > >>>> thing I'm
> > > > > >>>> > worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know
> > if I
> > > > > >>>> should
> > > > > >>>> > continue to save money and see if something better comes
> > along,
> > > > or go
> > > > > >>>> with
> > > > > >>>> > it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > > > > >>>> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > > **
> > > > > >>>> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > > > >>>> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows
> > the
> > > > 600
> > > > > >>>> cars
> > > > > >>>> > > backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact
> > -- I'm
> > > > > >>>> also
> > > > > >>>> > > located in NC.)
> > > > > >>>> > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little
> > > > cars.
> > > > > >>>> The
> > > > > >>>> > > stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before
> > they
> > > > > >>>> stretch and
> > > > > >>>> > > eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that
> > > > > >>>> happens, the
> > > > > >>>> > > valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care of
> > > > during
> > > > > >>>> an engine
> > > > > >>>> > > rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with
> > heavier
> > > > > >>>> racing chain
> > > > > >>>> > > that should last a lot longer.
> > > > > >>>> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in
> > until a
> > > > > >>>> > > knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that
> > assessment
> > > > > >>>> can't be
> > > > > >>>> > > done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's
> > > > always
> > > > > >>>> possible
> > > > > >>>> > > that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the
> > engine
> > > > with
> > > > > >>>> too
> > > > > >>>> > > little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > > > >>>> > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few
> > things,
> > > > > >>>> you might
> > > > > >>>> > > be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent
> > > > valves,
> > > > > >>>> if
> > > > > >>>> > > you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be
> > > > > >>>> unknown until
> > > > > >>>> > > somebody looks inside it.
> > > > > >>>> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full
> > engine
> > > > > >>>> rebuild,
> > > > > >>>> > > or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few
> > thousand $$$
> > > > > >>>> (~$3k,
> > > > > >>>> > > maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the
> > > > car if
> > > > > >>>> you'll
> > > > > >>>> > > have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> > > > > >>>> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are
> > probably
> > > > > >>>> not in
> > > > > >>>> > > very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good
> > > > bit of
> > > > > >>>> work
> > > > > >>>> > > too.
> > > > > >>>> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for
> > rusted
> > > > > >>>> places.
> > > > > >>>> > > Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a
> > > > good
> > > > > >>>> idea to
> > > > > >>>> > > check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the
> > body may
> > > > > >>>> look good,
> > > > > >>>> > > but the underside could be a different story. So look
> > carefully.
> > > > > >>>> > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and
> > fix
> > > > up
> > > > > >>>> the car!
> > > > > >>>> > > Richard

[Chas]

It doesn't matter! She will love it. And if she doesn't, she can resell it but i recognize that passion. She WILL love it. Try to think back to your first car. Did you check fuel mileage and performance figures, or was it just an impulse purchase towards independance. She will love it.
Chas

--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "Mike" wrote:
> Oh boy. I hope you don't like going really fast all the time. Don't get me wrong, these cars can certainly get up and go, but they're not exactly hot rods.
> :)
> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > I have not driven one.
> > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > **
> > > If you don't mind me asking, have you ever driven one of these cars? Just
> > > curious.
> > > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > > wrote:
> > > > I've been looking in other places. It's just the amount of money it would
> > > > cost to drive and pick it up. My dad and brother think I'm weird because
> > > I
> > > > like these types of cars.
> > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > > > **
> > > > > Becky,
> > > > > I highly recommend expanding your search to farther places. Tennessee
> > > is a
> > > > > place where cars tend to rust due to the winters.
> > > > > I travelled almost 1400 miles to get my Honda when I finally found a
> > > good
> > > > > one.
> > > > > Travelling far to get a treasure that you really want can be a really
> > > fun
> > > > > adventure to.
> > > > > good luck.
> > > > > Mike.
> > > > > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Although, if any of you have one you are willing to sell. I'm
> > > definitely
> > > > > > interested.
> > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > > > > > There are a few in Ga, but they don't run and no matter how good it
> > > > > looks
> > > > > > > on the outside, I don't want to pay a ton for something that's not
> > > > > running.
> > > > > > > It's just frustrating because I want one now. The thought of
> > > waiting a
> > > > > full
> > > > > > > year just kills me.
> > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Elias Baldwin > > > > ...>wrote:
> > > > > > >> **
> > > > > > >> Eric's right. Uship found an independent hauler (guy with Ford
> > > F-250
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >> trailer) for my Z that wasn't terribly expensive. You may have to
> > > > > wait a
> > > > > > >> bit, but someone somewhere will have an empty truck or trailer
> > > and be
> > > > > > >> headed your way. Even shipped from Zimbabwe, it'll be cheaper and
> > > less
> > > > > > >> painful than bodywork. And I too was an impecunious college
> > > student
> > > > > when I
> > > > > > >> bought my Z online and had it shipped. The fact was that I really,
> > > > > really
> > > > > > >> wanted a solid car (after having owned a rotten one) and I
> > > figured I
> > > > > could
> > > > > > >> deal with mechanicals, but not proper bodywork. After a few years
> > > of
> > > > > > >> working and dutiful saving (no beer, no vacations, very used
> > > > > textbooks,
> > > > > > >> taking the bus, etc.), it was a delightful moment when my car
> > > arrived.
> > > > > > >> The KEY with a long distance sale is rapport with the seller.
> > > Lots of
> > > > > > >> pictures, phone conversations, etc. Even then I was still a bit
> > > > > nervous
> > > > > > >> until my car showed up. But the seller had been very fair in his
> > > > > > >> descriptions.
> > > > > > >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > > > >>> **
> > > > > > >>> My mistake the car is in Tucson AZ. I was just in Tucson a few
> > > days
> > > > > > >>> ago I wish I would have known about it cuz I would have checked
> > > it
> > > > > out for
> > > > > > >>> myself.
> > > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > > >>> egeiger@
> > > > > > >>> www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Eric Geiger"
> > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>> There's a z600 on eBay right now. Green in TX going for 1200.
> > > Looks
> > > > > > >>> to be pretty clean minimal rust. Not much of a description though
> > > > > about
> > > > > > >>> what's going on with it. That might be a good starter car. I
> > > think it
> > > > > > >>> has new tires so atleast it should roll.
> > > > > > >>> I've used uship before to ship cars with decent results. It's
> > > pretty
> > > > > > >>> much like eBay for shipping anything. People will bid on your
> > > > > shipment.
> > > > > > >>> You can go on the website and atleast get some estimates. Make a
> > > > > dummy
> > > > > > >>> listing to see what people quote you to ship it.
> > > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > > >>> egeiger@
> > > > > > >>> www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 10:56 AM, "Becky Flynn" wrote:
> > > > > > >>> My budget is around $2000. If I could afford to ship it too me
> > > I'd
> > > > > have
> > > > > > >>> a less rusty one.
> > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013 9:04 AM, "Eric Geiger" wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> **
> > > > > > >>>> What's your budget Becky? Maybe someone here has a car they're
> > > > > sitting
> > > > > > >>>> on that they might be willing to part with. Like I said I have
> > > 2-3
> > > > > extra
> > > > > > >>>> cars that I need to part with atleast one. Someone very well may
> > > > > have one
> > > > > > >>>> they could get running so that you already have a running car to
> > > > > start with
> > > > > > >>>> and maybe just needs a brake job and some minor repairs to be
> > > road
> > > > > worthy.
> > > > > > >>>> Might not be the nicest looking but you can make it your own
> > > then
> > > > > still.
> > > > > > >>>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > >>>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > >>>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > > >>>> egeiger@
> > > > > > >>>> www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > >>>> On May 9, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Chas" wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> Hi Becky,
> > > > > > >>>> Don't buy a rusty Honda Z600. It is just not worth the effort as
> > > > > much
> > > > > > >>>> nicer cars are just not that expensive. I don't know what your
> > > > > budget is
> > > > > > >>>> but I have five Z600's and I was thinking about parting with
> > > one or
> > > > > two of
> > > > > > >>>> them. They are all very noce cars from a very nice original that
> > > > > needs a
> > > > > > >>>> little work to two very nice running driving cars, to a car
> > > that is
> > > > > 85%
> > > > > > >>>> restored and just needs finishing. If you are serious about
> > > buying
> > > > > a Z600,
> > > > > > >>>> please contact me and we can arrange to get you up here to have
> > > a
> > > > > look.
> > > > > > >>>> Also, we host the Gould's Annual Microcar & Minicar Classic
> > > Event
> > > > > here
> > > > > > >>>> in Newton (near Boston), Massachusetts on July 12, 13 and 14,
> > > 2013.
> > > > > You are
> > > > > > >>>> welcome to attend and see all of the unusual microcars and
> > > minicars
> > > > > that
> > > > > > >>>> attend this European style driving event. Everyone else is also
> > > > > invited. It
> > > > > > >>>> is three days of microcar lunacy including four driving tours,
> > > > > activities,
> > > > > > >>>> parties, Memphis barbecue, frozen Margarita party and much, much
> > > > > more.
> > > > > > >>>> Check out all of the details at www.bubbledrome.com
> > > > > > >>>> Chas
> > > > > > >>>> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > >
> > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks
> > > > > pretty
> > > > > > >>>> > rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The
> > > only
> > > > > > >>>> thing I'm
> > > > > > >>>> > worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know
> > > if I
> > > > > > >>>> should
> > > > > > >>>> > continue to save money and see if something better comes
> > > along,
> > > > > or go
> > > > > > >>>> with
> > > > > > >>>> > it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > > > > > >>>> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > > **
> > > > > > >>>> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > > > > >>>> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows
> > > the
> > > > > 600
> > > > > > >>>> cars
> > > > > > >>>> > > backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact
> > > -- I'm
> > > > > > >>>> also
> > > > > > >>>> > > located in NC.)
> > > > > > >>>> > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little
> > > > > cars.
> > > > > > >>>> The
> > > > > > >>>> > > stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before
> > > they
> > > > > > >>>> stretch and
> > > > > > >>>> > > eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that
> > > > > > >>>> happens, the
> > > > > > >>>> > > valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care of
> > > > > during
> > > > > > >>>> an engine
> > > > > > >>>> > > rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with
> > > heavier
> > > > > > >>>> racing chain
> > > > > > >>>> > > that should last a lot longer.
> > > > > > >>>> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in
> > > until a
> > > > > > >>>> > > knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that
> > > assessment
> > > > > > >>>> can't be
> > > > > > >>>> > > done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's
> > > > > always
> > > > > > >>>> possible
> > > > > > >>>> > > that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the
> > > engine
> > > > > with
> > > > > > >>>> too
> > > > > > >>>> > > little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > > > > >>>> > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few
> > > things,
> > > > > > >>>> you might
> > > > > > >>>> > > be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent
> > > > > valves,
> > > > > > >>>> if
> > > > > > >>>> > > you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be
> > > > > > >>>> unknown until
> > > > > > >>>> > > somebody looks inside it.
> > > > > > >>>> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full
> > > engine
> > > > > > >>>> rebuild,
> > > > > > >>>> > > or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few
> > > thousand $$$
> > > > > > >>>> (~$3k,
> > > > > > >>>> > > maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the
> > > > > car if
> > > > > > >>>> you'll
> > > > > > >>>> > > have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> > > > > > >>>> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are
> > > probably
> > > > > > >>>> not in
> > > > > > >>>> > > very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good
> > > > > bit of
> > > > > > >>>> work
> > > > > > >>>> > > too.
> > > > > > >>>> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for
> > > rusted
> > > > > > >>>> places.
> > > > > > >>>> > > Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a
> > > > > good
> > > > > > >>>> idea to
> > > > > > >>>> > > check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the
> > > body may
> > > > > > >>>> look good,
> > > > > > >>>> > > but the underside could be a different story. So look
> > > carefully.
> > > > > > >>>> > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and
> > > fix
> > > > > up
> > > > > > >>>> the car!
> > > > > > >>>> > > Richard

[Eric Geiger]

I had 3 of them before I ever got to drive one.   I love it and an thoroughly addicted.  Picking up my 4th in about 2-3 weeks.  Then time to get the others running and sell them to make room for one that's cleaner for a full restoration.
Eric J. Geiger
---------------------------------------
PRG Nocturne
XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
egeiger@...
www.prgnocturne.com

On May 11, 2013, at 5:38 PM, "Chas" wrote:
It doesn't matter! She will love it. And if she doesn't, she can resell it but i recognize that passion. She WILL love it. Try to think back to your first car. Did you check fuel mileage and performance figures, or was it just an impulse purchase towards independance. She will love it.
Chas
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, "Mike" wrote:
> Oh boy. I hope you don't like going really fast all the time. Don't get me wrong, these cars can certainly get up and go, but they're not exactly hot rods.
> :)
> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > I have not driven one.
> > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > **
> > > If you don't mind me asking, have you ever driven one of these cars? Just
> > > curious.
> > > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > > wrote:
> > > > I've been looking in other places. It's just the amount of money it would
> > > > cost to drive and pick it up. My dad and brother think I'm weird because
> > > I
> > > > like these types of cars.
> > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > > > **
> > > > > Becky,
> > > > > I highly recommend expanding your search to farther places. Tennessee
> > > is a
> > > > > place where cars tend to rust due to the winters.
> > > > > I travelled almost 1400 miles to get my Honda when I finally found a
> > > good
> > > > > one.
> > > > > Travelling far to get a treasure that you really want can be a really
> > > fun
> > > > > adventure to.
> > > > > good luck.
> > > > > Mike.
> > > > > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Although, if any of you have one you are willing to sell. I'm
> > > definitely
> > > > > > interested.
> > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > > > > > There are a few in Ga, but they don't run and no matter how good it
> > > > > looks
> > > > > > > on the outside, I don't want to pay a ton for something that's not
> > > > > running.
> > > > > > > It's just frustrating because I want one now. The thought of
> > > waiting a
> > > > > full
> > > > > > > year just kills me.
> > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Elias Baldwin > > > > ...>wrote:
> > > > > > >> **
> > > > > > >> Eric's right. Uship found an independent hauler (guy with Ford
> > > F-250
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >> trailer) for my Z that wasn't terribly expensive. You may have to
> > > > > wait a
> > > > > > >> bit, but someone somewhere will have an empty truck or trailer
> > > and be
> > > > > > >> headed your way. Even shipped from Zimbabwe, it'll be cheaper and
> > > less
> > > > > > >> painful than bodywork. And I too was an impecunious college
> > > student
> > > > > when I
> > > > > > >> bought my Z online and had it shipped. The fact was that I really,
> > > > > really
> > > > > > >> wanted a solid car (after having owned a rotten one) and I
> > > figured I
> > > > > could
> > > > > > >> deal with mechanicals, but not proper bodywork. After a few years
> > > of
> > > > > > >> working and dutiful saving (no beer, no vacations, very used
> > > > > textbooks,
> > > > > > >> taking the bus, etc.), it was a delightful moment when my car
> > > arrived.
> > > > > > >> The KEY with a long distance sale is rapport with the seller.
> > > Lots of
> > > > > > >> pictures, phone conversations, etc. Even then I was still a bit
> > > > > nervous
> > > > > > >> until my car showed up. But the seller had been very fair in his
> > > > > > >> descriptions.
> > > > > > >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > > > >>> **
> > > > > > >>> My mistake the car is in Tucson AZ. I was just in Tucson a few
> > > days
> > > > > > >>> ago I wish I would have known about it cuz I would have checked
> > > it
> > > > > out for
> > > > > > >>> myself.
> > > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > > >>> egeiger@
www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Eric Geiger"
> > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>> There's a z600 on eBay right now. Green in TX going for 1200.
> > > Looks
> > > > > > >>> to be pretty clean minimal rust. Not much of a description though
> > > > > about
> > > > > > >>> what's going on with it. That might be a good starter car. I
> > > think it
> > > > > > >>> has new tires so atleast it should roll.
> > > > > > >>> I've used uship before to ship cars with decent results. It's
> > > pretty
> > > > > > >>> much like eBay for shipping anything. People will bid on your
> > > > > shipment.
> > > > > > >>> You can go on the website and atleast get some estimates. Make a
> > > > > dummy
> > > > > > >>> listing to see what people quote you to ship it.
> > > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > > >>> egeiger@
www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 10:56 AM, "Becky Flynn" wrote:
> > > > > > >>> My budget is around $2000. If I could afford to ship it too me
> > > I'd
> > > > > have
> > > > > > >>> a less rusty one.
> > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013 9:04 AM, "Eric Geiger" wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> **
> > > > > > >>>> What's your budget Becky? Maybe someone here has a car they're
> > > > > sitting
> > > > > > >>>> on that they might be willing to part with. Like I said I have
> > > 2-3
> > > > > extra
> > > > > > >>>> cars that I need to part with atleast one. Someone very well may
> > > > > have one
> > > > > > >>>> they could get running so that you already have a running car to
> > > > > start with
> > > > > > >>>> and maybe just needs a brake job and some minor repairs to be
> > > road
> > > > > worthy.
> > > > > > >>>> Might not be the nicest looking but you can make it your own
> > > then
> > > > > still.
> > > > > > >>>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > >>>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > >>>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > > >>>> egeiger@
www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > >>>> On May 9, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Chas" wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> Hi Becky,
> > > > > > >>>> Don't buy a rusty Honda Z600. It is just not worth the effort as
> > > > > much
> > > > > > >>>> nicer cars are just not that expensive. I don't know what your
> > > > > budget is
> > > > > > >>>> but I have five Z600's and I was thinking about parting with
> > > one or
> > > > > two of
> > > > > > >>>> them. They are all very noce cars from a very nice original that
> > > > > needs a
> > > > > > >>>> little work to two very nice running driving cars, to a car
> > > that is
> > > > > 85%
> > > > > > >>>> restored and just needs finishing. If you are serious about
> > > buying
> > > > > a Z600,
> > > > > > >>>> please contact me and we can arrange to get you up here to have
> > > a
> > > > > look.
> > > > > > >>>> Also, we host the Gould's Annual Microcar & Minicar Classic
> > > Event
> > > > > here
> > > > > > >>>> in Newton (near Boston), Massachusetts on July 12, 13 and 14,
> > > 2013.
> > > > > You are
> > > > > > >>>> welcome to attend and see all of the unusual microcars and
> > > minicars
> > > > > that
> > > > > > >>>> attend this European style driving event. Everyone else is also
> > > > > invited. It
> > > > > > >>>> is three days of microcar lunacy including four driving tours,
> > > > > activities,
> > > > > > >>>> parties, Memphis barbecue, frozen Margarita party and much, much
> > > > > more.
> > > > > > >>>> Check out all of the details at
www.bubbledrome.com
> > > > > > >>>> Chas
> > > > > > >>>> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > >
> > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks
> > > > > pretty
> > > > > > >>>> > rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The
> > > only
> > > > > > >>>> thing I'm
> > > > > > >>>> > worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know
> > > if I
> > > > > > >>>> should
> > > > > > >>>> > continue to save money and see if something better comes
> > > along,
> > > > > or go
> > > > > > >>>> with
> > > > > > >>>> > it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > > > > > >>>> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> > > **
> > > > > > >>>> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > > > > >>>> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows
> > > the
> > > > > 600
> > > > > > >>>> cars
> > > > > > >>>> > > backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact
> > > -- I'm
> > > > > > >>>> also
> > > > > > >>>> > > located in NC.)
> > > > > > >>>> > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little
> > > > > cars.
> > > > > > >>>> The
> > > > > > >>>> > > stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before
> > > they
> > > > > > >>>> stretch and
> > > > > > >>>> > > eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that
> > > > > > >>>> happens, the
> > > > > > >>>> > > valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care of
> > > > > during
> > > > > > >>>> an engine
> > > > > > >>>> > > rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with
> > > heavier
> > > > > > >>>> racing chain
> > > > > > >>>> > > that should last a lot longer.
> > > > > > >>>> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in
> > > until a
> > > > > > >>>> > > knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that
> > > assessment
> > > > > > >>>> can't be
> > > > > > >>>> > > done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's
> > > > > always
> > > > > > >>>> possible
> > > > > > >>>> > > that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the
> > > engine
> > > > > with
> > > > > > >>>> too
> > > > > > >>>> > > little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > > > > >>>> > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few
> > > things,
> > > > > > >>>> you might
> > > > > > >>>> > > be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent
> > > > > valves,
> > > > > > >>>> if
> > > > > > >>>> > > you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be
> > > > > > >>>> unknown until
> > > > > > >>>> > > somebody looks inside it.
> > > > > > >>>> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full
> > > engine
> > > > > > >>>> rebuild,
> > > > > > >>>> > > or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few
> > > thousand $$$
> > > > > > >>>> (~$3k,
> > > > > > >>>> > > maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the
> > > > > car if
> > > > > > >>>> you'll
> > > > > > >>>> > > have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> > > > > > >>>> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are
> > > probably
> > > > > > >>>> not in
> > > > > > >>>> > > very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good
> > > > > bit of
> > > > > > >>>> work
> > > > > > >>>> > > too.
> > > > > > >>>> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for
> > > rusted
> > > > > > >>>> places.
> > > > > > >>>> > > Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a
> > > > > good
> > > > > > >>>> idea to
> > > > > > >>>> > > check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the
> > > body may
> > > > > > >>>> look good,
> > > > > > >>>> > > but the underside could be a different story. So look
> > > carefully.
> > > > > > >>>> > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and
> > > fix
> > > > > up
> > > > > > >>>> the car!
> > > > > > >>>> > > Richard

[Eric Geiger]

Becky did u get the car?
Eric J. Geiger
---------------------------------------
PRG Nocturne
XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
egeiger@...
www.prgnocturne.com

On May 11, 2013, at 3:23 PM, "Mike" wrote:
Oh boy. I hope you don't like going really fast all the time. Don't get me wrong, these cars can certainly get up and go, but they're not exactly hot rods.
:)
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn wrote:
> I have not driven one.
> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Mike wrote:
> > **
> > If you don't mind me asking, have you ever driven one of these cars? Just
> > curious.
> > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > wrote:
> > > I've been looking in other places. It's just the amount of money it would
> > > cost to drive and pick it up. My dad and brother think I'm weird because
> > I
> > > like these types of cars.
> > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > > **
> > > > Becky,
> > > > I highly recommend expanding your search to farther places. Tennessee
> > is a
> > > > place where cars tend to rust due to the winters.
> > > > I travelled almost 1400 miles to get my Honda when I finally found a
> > good
> > > > one.
> > > > Travelling far to get a treasure that you really want can be a really
> > fun
> > > > adventure to.
> > > > good luck.
> > > > Mike.
> > > > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Although, if any of you have one you are willing to sell. I'm
> > definitely
> > > > > interested.
> > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > > > > There are a few in Ga, but they don't run and no matter how good it
> > > > looks
> > > > > > on the outside, I don't want to pay a ton for something that's not
> > > > running.
> > > > > > It's just frustrating because I want one now. The thought of
> > waiting a
> > > > full
> > > > > > year just kills me.
> > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Elias Baldwin > > > ...>wrote:
> > > > > >> **
> > > > > >> Eric's right. Uship found an independent hauler (guy with Ford
> > F-250
> > > > and
> > > > > >> trailer) for my Z that wasn't terribly expensive. You may have to
> > > > wait a
> > > > > >> bit, but someone somewhere will have an empty truck or trailer
> > and be
> > > > > >> headed your way. Even shipped from Zimbabwe, it'll be cheaper and
> > less
> > > > > >> painful than bodywork. And I too was an impecunious college
> > student
> > > > when I
> > > > > >> bought my Z online and had it shipped. The fact was that I really,
> > > > really
> > > > > >> wanted a solid car (after having owned a rotten one) and I
> > figured I
> > > > could
> > > > > >> deal with mechanicals, but not proper bodywork. After a few years
> > of
> > > > > >> working and dutiful saving (no beer, no vacations, very used
> > > > textbooks,
> > > > > >> taking the bus, etc.), it was a delightful moment when my car
> > arrived.
> > > > > >> The KEY with a long distance sale is rapport with the seller.
> > Lots of
> > > > > >> pictures, phone conversations, etc. Even then I was still a bit
> > > > nervous
> > > > > >> until my car showed up. But the seller had been very fair in his
> > > > > >> descriptions.
> > > > > >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > > >>> **
> > > > > >>> My mistake the car is in Tucson AZ. I was just in Tucson a few
> > days
> > > > > >>> ago I wish I would have known about it cuz I would have checked
> > it
> > > > out for
> > > > > >>> myself.
> > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > >>> egeiger@
www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Eric Geiger"
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>> There's a z600 on eBay right now. Green in TX going for 1200.
> > Looks
> > > > > >>> to be pretty clean minimal rust. Not much of a description though
> > > > about
> > > > > >>> what's going on with it. That might be a good starter car. I
> > think it
> > > > > >>> has new tires so atleast it should roll.
> > > > > >>> I've used uship before to ship cars with decent results. It's
> > pretty
> > > > > >>> much like eBay for shipping anything. People will bid on your
> > > > shipment.
> > > > > >>> You can go on the website and atleast get some estimates. Make a
> > > > dummy
> > > > > >>> listing to see what people quote you to ship it.
> > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > >>> egeiger@
www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 10:56 AM, "Becky Flynn" wrote:
> > > > > >>> My budget is around $2000. If I could afford to ship it too me
> > I'd
> > > > have
> > > > > >>> a less rusty one.
> > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013 9:04 AM, "Eric Geiger" wrote:
> > > > > >>>> **
> > > > > >>>> What's your budget Becky? Maybe someone here has a car they're
> > > > sitting
> > > > > >>>> on that they might be willing to part with. Like I said I have
> > 2-3
> > > > extra
> > > > > >>>> cars that I need to part with atleast one. Someone very well may
> > > > have one
> > > > > >>>> they could get running so that you already have a running car to
> > > > start with
> > > > > >>>> and maybe just needs a brake job and some minor repairs to be
> > road
> > > > worthy.
> > > > > >>>> Might not be the nicest looking but you can make it your own
> > then
> > > > still.
> > > > > >>>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > >>>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > >>>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > >>>> egeiger@
www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > >>>> On May 9, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Chas" wrote:
> > > > > >>>> Hi Becky,
> > > > > >>>> Don't buy a rusty Honda Z600. It is just not worth the effort as
> > > > much
> > > > > >>>> nicer cars are just not that expensive. I don't know what your
> > > > budget is
> > > > > >>>> but I have five Z600's and I was thinking about parting with
> > one or
> > > > two of
> > > > > >>>> them. They are all very noce cars from a very nice original that
> > > > needs a
> > > > > >>>> little work to two very nice running driving cars, to a car
> > that is
> > > > 85%
> > > > > >>>> restored and just needs finishing. If you are serious about
> > buying
> > > > a Z600,
> > > > > >>>> please contact me and we can arrange to get you up here to have
> > a
> > > > look.
> > > > > >>>> Also, we host the Gould's Annual Microcar & Minicar Classic
> > Event
> > > > here
> > > > > >>>> in Newton (near Boston), Massachusetts on July 12, 13 and 14,
> > 2013.
> > > > You are
> > > > > >>>> welcome to attend and see all of the unusual microcars and
> > minicars
> > > > that
> > > > > >>>> attend this European style driving event. Everyone else is also
> > > > invited. It
> > > > > >>>> is three days of microcar lunacy including four driving tours,
> > > > activities,
> > > > > >>>> parties, Memphis barbecue, frozen Margarita party and much, much
> > > > more.
> > > > > >>>> Check out all of the details at
www.bubbledrome.com
> > > > > >>>> Chas
> > > > > >>>> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> >
> > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks
> > > > pretty
> > > > > >>>> > rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The
> > only
> > > > > >>>> thing I'm
> > > > > >>>> > worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know
> > if I
> > > > > >>>> should
> > > > > >>>> > continue to save money and see if something better comes
> > along,
> > > > or go
> > > > > >>>> with
> > > > > >>>> > it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > > > > >>>> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > > **
> > > > > >>>> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > > > >>>> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows
> > the
> > > > 600
> > > > > >>>> cars
> > > > > >>>> > > backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact
> > -- I'm
> > > > > >>>> also
> > > > > >>>> > > located in NC.)
> > > > > >>>> > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little
> > > > cars.
> > > > > >>>> The
> > > > > >>>> > > stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before
> > they
> > > > > >>>> stretch and
> > > > > >>>> > > eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that
> > > > > >>>> happens, the
> > > > > >>>> > > valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care of
> > > > during
> > > > > >>>> an engine
> > > > > >>>> > > rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with
> > heavier
> > > > > >>>> racing chain
> > > > > >>>> > > that should last a lot longer.
> > > > > >>>> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in
> > until a
> > > > > >>>> > > knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that
> > assessment
> > > > > >>>> can't be
> > > > > >>>> > > done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's
> > > > always
> > > > > >>>> possible
> > > > > >>>> > > that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the
> > engine
> > > > with
> > > > > >>>> too
> > > > > >>>> > > little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > > > >>>> > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few
> > things,
> > > > > >>>> you might
> > > > > >>>> > > be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent
> > > > valves,
> > > > > >>>> if
> > > > > >>>> > > you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be
> > > > > >>>> unknown until
> > > > > >>>> > > somebody looks inside it.
> > > > > >>>> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full
> > engine
> > > > > >>>> rebuild,
> > > > > >>>> > > or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few
> > thousand $$$
> > > > > >>>> (~$3k,
> > > > > >>>> > > maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the
> > > > car if
> > > > > >>>> you'll
> > > > > >>>> > > have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> > > > > >>>> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are
> > probably
> > > > > >>>> not in
> > > > > >>>> > > very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good
> > > > bit of
> > > > > >>>> work
> > > > > >>>> > > too.
> > > > > >>>> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for
> > rusted
> > > > > >>>> places.
> > > > > >>>> > > Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a
> > > > good
> > > > > >>>> idea to
> > > > > >>>> > > check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the
> > body may
> > > > > >>>> look good,
> > > > > >>>> > > but the underside could be a different story. So look
> > carefully.
> > > > > >>>> > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and
> > fix
> > > > up
> > > > > >>>> the car!
> > > > > >>>> > > Richard

[Becky Flynn]

He has two other people coming to look at it this week as well as me. I can't go look at it until Monday since I had to work all weekend.

On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Eric Geiger
�
> Becky did u get the car?�
> Eric J. Geiger
> ---------------------------------------
> PRG Nocturne
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> phone
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> fax
> XXX-XXX-XXXX
> mobile
> egeiger@...
> www.prgnocturne.com
> On May 11, 2013, at 3:23 PM, "Mike" megamike78@...
> > wrote:
> > �
> > Oh boy. I hope you don't like going really fast all the time. Don't get me wrong, these cars can certainly get up and go, but they're not exactly hot rods.
> > :)
> > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > I have not driven one.
> > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > > **
> > > > If you don't mind me asking, have you ever driven one of these cars? Just
> > > > curious.
> > > > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , Becky Flynn
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I've been looking in other places. It's just the amount of money it would
> > > > > cost to drive and pick it up. My dad and brother think I'm weird because
> > > > I
> > > > > like these types of cars.
> > > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > > > > **
> > > > > > Becky,
> > > > > > I highly recommend expanding your search to farther places. Tennessee
> > > > is a
> > > > > > place where cars tend to rust due to the winters.
> > > > > > I travelled almost 1400 miles to get my Honda when I finally found a
> > > > good
> > > > > > one.
> > > > > > Travelling far to get a treasure that you really want can be a really
> > > > fun
> > > > > > adventure to.
> > > > > > good luck.
> > > > > > Mike.
> > > > > > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , Becky Flynn
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Although, if any of you have one you are willing to sell. I'm
> > > > definitely
> > > > > > > interested.
> > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > > > > > > There are a few in Ga, but they don't run and no matter how good it
> > > > > > looks
> > > > > > > > on the outside, I don't want to pay a ton for something that's not
> > > > > > running.
> > > > > > > > It's just frustrating because I want one now. The thought of
> > > > waiting a
> > > > > > full
> > > > > > > > year just kills me.
> > > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Elias Baldwin > > > > > ...>wrote:
> > > > > > > >> **
> > > > > > > >> Eric's right. Uship found an independent hauler (guy with Ford
> > > > F-250
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >> trailer) for my Z that wasn't terribly expensive. You may have to
> > > > > > wait a
> > > > > > > >> bit, but someone somewhere will have an empty truck or trailer
> > > > and be
> > > > > > > >> headed your way. Even shipped from Zimbabwe, it'll be cheaper and
> > > > less
> > > > > > > >> painful than bodywork. And I too was an impecunious college
> > > > student
> > > > > > when I
> > > > > > > >> bought my Z online and had it shipped. The fact was that I really,
> > > > > > really
> > > > > > > >> wanted a solid car (after having owned a rotten one) and I
> > > > figured I
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > >> deal with mechanicals, but not proper bodywork. After a few years
> > > > of
> > > > > > > >> working and dutiful saving (no beer, no vacations, very used
> > > > > > textbooks,
> > > > > > > >> taking the bus, etc.), it was a delightful moment when my car
> > > > arrived.
> > > > > > > >> The KEY with a long distance sale is rapport with the seller.
> > > > Lots of
> > > > > > > >> pictures, phone conversations, etc. Even then I was still a bit
> > > > > > nervous
> > > > > > > >> until my car showed up. But the seller had been very fair in his
> > > > > > > >> descriptions.
> > > > > > > >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> **
> > > > > > > >>> My mistake the car is in Tucson AZ. I was just in Tucson a few
> > > > days
> > > > > > > >>> ago I wish I would have known about it cuz I would have checked
> > > > it
> > > > > > out for
> > > > > > > >>> myself.
> > > > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > phone
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > fax
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > mobile
> > > > > > > >>> egeiger@
> > www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Eric Geiger"
> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> There's a z600 on eBay right now. Green in TX going for 1200.
> > > > Looks
> > > > > > > >>> to be pretty clean minimal rust. Not much of a description though
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > >>> what's going on with it. That might be a good starter car. I
> > > > think it
> > > > > > > >>> has new tires so atleast it should roll.
> > > > > > > >>> I've used uship before to ship cars with decent results. It's
> > > > pretty
> > > > > > > >>> much like eBay for shipping anything. People will bid on your
> > > > > > shipment.
> > > > > > > >>> You can go on the website and atleast get some estimates. Make a
> > > > > > dummy
> > > > > > > >>> listing to see what people quote you to ship it.
> > > > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > phone
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > fax
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > mobile
> > > > > > > >>> egeiger@
> > www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 10:56 AM, "Becky Flynn" wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> My budget is around $2000. If I could afford to ship it too me
> > > > I'd
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > >>> a less rusty one.
> > > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013 9:04 AM, "Eric Geiger" wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> **
> > > > > > > >>>> What's your budget Becky? Maybe someone here has a car they're
> > > > > > sitting
> > > > > > > >>>> on that they might be willing to part with. Like I said I have
> > > > 2-3
> > > > > > extra
> > > > > > > >>>> cars that I need to part with atleast one. Someone very well may
> > > > > > have one
> > > > > > > >>>> they could get running so that you already have a running car to
> > > > > > start with
> > > > > > > >>>> and maybe just needs a brake job and some minor repairs to be
> > > > road
> > > > > > worthy.
> > > > > > > >>>> Might not be the nicest looking but you can make it your own
> > > > then
> > > > > > still.
> > > > > > > >>>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > > >>>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>>> PRG Nocturne
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > phone
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > fax
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > mobile
> > > > > > > >>>> egeiger@
> > www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > > >>>> On May 9, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Chas" wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> Hi Becky,
> > > > > > > >>>> Don't buy a rusty Honda Z600. It is just not worth the effort as
> > > > > > much
> > > > > > > >>>> nicer cars are just not that expensive. I don't know what your
> > > > > > budget is
> > > > > > > >>>> but I have five Z600's and I was thinking about parting with
> > > > one or
> > > > > > two of
> > > > > > > >>>> them. They are all very noce cars from a very nice original that
> > > > > > needs a
> > > > > > > >>>> little work to two very nice running driving cars, to a car
> > > > that is
> > > > > > 85%
> > > > > > > >>>> restored and just needs finishing. If you are serious about
> > > > buying
> > > > > > a Z600,
> > > > > > > >>>> please contact me and we can arrange to get you up here to have
> > > > a
> > > > > > look.
> > > > > > > >>>> Also, we host the Gould's Annual Microcar & Minicar Classic
> > > > Event
> > > > > > here
> > > > > > > >>>> in Newton (near Boston), Massachusetts on July 12, 13 and 14,
> > > > 2013.
> > > > > > You are
> > > > > > > >>>> welcome to attend and see all of the unusual microcars and
> > > > minicars
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > >>>> attend this European style driving event. Everyone else is also
> > > > > > invited. It
> > > > > > > >>>> is three days of microcar lunacy including four driving tours,
> > > > > > activities,
> > > > > > > >>>> parties, Memphis barbecue, frozen Margarita party and much, much
> > > > > > more.
> > > > > > > >>>> Check out all of the details at
> > www.bubbledrome.com
> > > > > > > >>>> Chas
> > > > > > > >>>> --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , Becky Flynn
> > > >
> > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that looks
> > > > > > pretty
> > > > > > > >>>> > rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The
> > > > only
> > > > > > > >>>> thing I'm
> > > > > > > >>>> > worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't know
> > > > if I
> > > > > > > >>>> should
> > > > > > > >>>> > continue to save money and see if something better comes
> > > > along,
> > > > > > or go
> > > > > > > >>>> with
> > > > > > > >>>> > it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > > > > > > >>>> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > > **
> > > > > > > >>>> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he knows
> > > > the
> > > > > > 600
> > > > > > > >>>> cars
> > > > > > > >>>> > > backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in fact
> > > > -- I'm
> > > > > > > >>>> also
> > > > > > > >>>> > > located in NC.)
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these little
> > > > > > cars.
> > > > > > > >>>> The
> > > > > > > >>>> > > stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before
> > > > they
> > > > > > > >>>> stretch and
> > > > > > > >>>> > > eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When that
> > > > > > > >>>> happens, the
> > > > > > > >>>> > > valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care of
> > > > > > during
> > > > > > > >>>> an engine
> > > > > > > >>>> > > rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with
> > > > heavier
> > > > > > > >>>> racing chain
> > > > > > > >>>> > > that should last a lot longer.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in
> > > > until a
> > > > > > > >>>> > > knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that
> > > > assessment
> > > > > > > >>>> can't be
> > > > > > > >>>> > > done without opening up the engine and looking inside. It's
> > > > > > always
> > > > > > > >>>> possible
> > > > > > > >>>> > > that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the
> > > > engine
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > >>>> too
> > > > > > > >>>> > > little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few
> > > > things,
> > > > > > > >>>> you might
> > > > > > > >>>> > > be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has bent
> > > > > > valves,
> > > > > > > >>>> if
> > > > > > > >>>> > > you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine will be
> > > > > > > >>>> unknown until
> > > > > > > >>>> > > somebody looks inside it.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A full
> > > > engine
> > > > > > > >>>> rebuild,
> > > > > > > >>>> > > or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few
> > > > thousand $$$
> > > > > > > >>>> (~$3k,
> > > > > > > >>>> > > maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the
> > > > > > car if
> > > > > > > >>>> you'll
> > > > > > > >>>> > > have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are
> > > > probably
> > > > > > > >>>> not in
> > > > > > > >>>> > > very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good
> > > > > > bit of
> > > > > > > >>>> work
> > > > > > > >>>> > > too.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for
> > > > rusted
> > > > > > > >>>> places.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but it's a
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > > >>>> idea to
> > > > > > > >>>> > > check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the
> > > > body may
> > > > > > > >>>> look good,
> > > > > > > >>>> > > but the underside could be a different story. So look
> > > > carefully.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get and
> > > > fix
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > > >>>> the car!
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Richard