New N600 Owner(hopefully)

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Chas
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Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)

Post by Chas »

Becky,
You should really tell him that yuou will buy it sight unseen and even send him a Paypal deposit. I fear that you will lose this if anyone else sees it first. It is well worth the 1200 asking price.
Charles
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn wrote:
> He has two other people coming to look at it this week as well as me. I
> can't go look at it until Monday since I had to work all weekend.
> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > **
> > Becky did u get the car?
> > Eric J. Geiger
> > ---------------------------------------
> > PRG Nocturne
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > egeiger@...
> > www.prgnocturne.com
> > On May 11, 2013, at 3:23 PM, "Mike" wrote:
> > Oh boy. I hope you don't like going really fast all the time. Don't get me
> > wrong, these cars can certainly get up and go, but they're not exactly hot
> > rods.
> > :)
> > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > wrote:
> > > I have not driven one.
> > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > > **
> > > > If you don't mind me asking, have you ever driven one of these cars?
> > Just
> > > > curious.
> > > > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I've been looking in other places. It's just the amount of money it
> > would
> > > > > cost to drive and pick it up. My dad and brother think I'm weird
> > because
> > > > I
> > > > > like these types of cars.
> > > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > > > > **
> > > > > > Becky,
> > > > > > I highly recommend expanding your search to farther places.
> > Tennessee
> > > > is a
> > > > > > place where cars tend to rust due to the winters.
> > > > > > I travelled almost 1400 miles to get my Honda when I finally found
> > a
> > > > good
> > > > > > one.
> > > > > > Travelling far to get a treasure that you really want can be a
> > really
> > > > fun
> > > > > > adventure to.
> > > > > > good luck.
> > > > > > Mike.
> > > > > > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Although, if any of you have one you are willing to sell. I'm
> > > > definitely
> > > > > > > interested.
> > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > > > > > > There are a few in Ga, but they don't run and no matter how
> > good it
> > > > > > looks
> > > > > > > > on the outside, I don't want to pay a ton for something that's
> > not
> > > > > > running.
> > > > > > > > It's just frustrating because I want one now. The thought of
> > > > waiting a
> > > > > > full
> > > > > > > > year just kills me.
> > > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Elias Baldwin > > > > > ...>wrote:
> > > > > > > >> **
> > > > > > > >> Eric's right. Uship found an independent hauler (guy with Ford
> > > > F-250
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >> trailer) for my Z that wasn't terribly expensive. You may
> > have to
> > > > > > wait a
> > > > > > > >> bit, but someone somewhere will have an empty truck or trailer
> > > > and be
> > > > > > > >> headed your way. Even shipped from Zimbabwe, it'll be cheaper
> > and
> > > > less
> > > > > > > >> painful than bodywork. And I too was an impecunious college
> > > > student
> > > > > > when I
> > > > > > > >> bought my Z online and had it shipped. The fact was that I
> > really,
> > > > > > really
> > > > > > > >> wanted a solid car (after having owned a rotten one) and I
> > > > figured I
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > >> deal with mechanicals, but not proper bodywork. After a few
> > years
> > > > of
> > > > > > > >> working and dutiful saving (no beer, no vacations, very used
> > > > > > textbooks,
> > > > > > > >> taking the bus, etc.), it was a delightful moment when my car
> > > > arrived.
> > > > > > > >> The KEY with a long distance sale is rapport with the seller.
> > > > Lots of
> > > > > > > >> pictures, phone conversations, etc. Even then I was still a
> > bit
> > > > > > nervous
> > > > > > > >> until my car showed up. But the seller had been very fair in
> > his
> > > > > > > >> descriptions.
> > > > > > > >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> **
> > > > > > > >>> My mistake the car is in Tucson AZ. I was just in Tucson a
> > few
> > > > days
> > > > > > > >>> ago I wish I would have known about it cuz I would have
> > checked
> > > > it
> > > > > > out for
> > > > > > > >>> myself.
> > > > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > > > >>> egeiger@
> > > > > > > >>> www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Eric Geiger"
> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> There's a z600 on eBay right now. Green in TX going for 1200.
> > > > Looks
> > > > > > > >>> to be pretty clean minimal rust. Not much of a description
> > though
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > >>> what's going on with it. That might be a good starter car. I
> > > > think it
> > > > > > > >>> has new tires so atleast it should roll.
> > > > > > > >>> I've used uship before to ship cars with decent results. It's
> > > > pretty
> > > > > > > >>> much like eBay for shipping anything. People will bid on your
> > > > > > shipment.
> > > > > > > >>> You can go on the website and atleast get some estimates.
> > Make a
> > > > > > dummy
> > > > > > > >>> listing to see what people quote you to ship it.
> > > > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > > > >>> egeiger@
> > > > > > > >>> www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 10:56 AM, "Becky Flynn"
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> My budget is around $2000. If I could afford to ship it too
> > me
> > > > I'd
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > >>> a less rusty one.
> > > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013 9:04 AM, "Eric Geiger" wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> **
> > > > > > > >>>> What's your budget Becky? Maybe someone here has a car
> > they're
> > > > > > sitting
> > > > > > > >>>> on that they might be willing to part with. Like I said I
> > have
> > > > 2-3
> > > > > > extra
> > > > > > > >>>> cars that I need to part with atleast one. Someone very
> > well may
> > > > > > have one
> > > > > > > >>>> they could get running so that you already have a running
> > car to
> > > > > > start with
> > > > > > > >>>> and maybe just needs a brake job and some minor repairs to
> > be
> > > > road
> > > > > > worthy.
> > > > > > > >>>> Might not be the nicest looking but you can make it your own
> > > > then
> > > > > > still.
> > > > > > > >>>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > > >>>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > > > >>>> egeiger@
> > > > > > > >>>> www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > > >>>> On May 9, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Chas" wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> Hi Becky,
> > > > > > > >>>> Don't buy a rusty Honda Z600. It is just not worth the
> > effort as
> > > > > > much
> > > > > > > >>>> nicer cars are just not that expensive. I don't know what
> > your
> > > > > > budget is
> > > > > > > >>>> but I have five Z600's and I was thinking about parting with
> > > > one or
> > > > > > two of
> > > > > > > >>>> them. They are all very noce cars from a very nice original
> > that
> > > > > > needs a
> > > > > > > >>>> little work to two very nice running driving cars, to a car
> > > > that is
> > > > > > 85%
> > > > > > > >>>> restored and just needs finishing. If you are serious about
> > > > buying
> > > > > > a Z600,
> > > > > > > >>>> please contact me and we can arrange to get you up here to
> > have
> > > > a
> > > > > > look.
> > > > > > > >>>> Also, we host the Gould's Annual Microcar & Minicar Classic
> > > > Event
> > > > > > here
> > > > > > > >>>> in Newton (near Boston), Massachusetts on July 12, 13 and
> > 14,
> > > > 2013.
> > > > > > You are
> > > > > > > >>>> welcome to attend and see all of the unusual microcars and
> > > > minicars
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > >>>> attend this European style driving event. Everyone else is
> > also
> > > > > > invited. It
> > > > > > > >>>> is three days of microcar lunacy including four driving
> > tours,
> > > > > > activities,
> > > > > > > >>>> parties, Memphis barbecue, frozen Margarita party and much,
> > much
> > > > > > more.
> > > > > > > >>>> Check out all of the details at www.bubbledrome.com
> > > > > > > >>>> Chas
> > > > > > > >>>> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > > >
> > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that
> > looks
> > > > > > pretty
> > > > > > > >>>> > rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600.
> > The
> > > > only
> > > > > > > >>>> thing I'm
> > > > > > > >>>> > worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't
> > know
> > > > if I
> > > > > > > >>>> should
> > > > > > > >>>> > continue to save money and see if something better comes
> > > > along,
> > > > > > or go
> > > > > > > >>>> with
> > > > > > > >>>> > it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > > > > > > >>>> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> >
> > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > > **
> > > > > > > >>>> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he
> > knows
> > > > the
> > > > > > 600
> > > > > > > >>>> cars
> > > > > > > >>>> > > backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in
> > fact
> > > > -- I'm
> > > > > > > >>>> also
> > > > > > > >>>> > > located in NC.)
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these
> > little
> > > > > > cars.
> > > > > > > >>>> The
> > > > > > > >>>> > > stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before
> > > > they
> > > > > > > >>>> stretch and
> > > > > > > >>>> > > eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When
> > that
> > > > > > > >>>> happens, the
> > > > > > > >>>> > > valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care
> > of
> > > > > > during
> > > > > > > >>>> an engine
> > > > > > > >>>> > > rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with
> > > > heavier
> > > > > > > >>>> racing chain
> > > > > > > >>>> > > that should last a lot longer.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in
> > > > until a
> > > > > > > >>>> > > knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that
> > > > assessment
> > > > > > > >>>> can't be
> > > > > > > >>>> > > done without opening up the engine and looking inside.
> > It's
> > > > > > always
> > > > > > > >>>> possible
> > > > > > > >>>> > > that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the
> > > > engine
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > >>>> too
> > > > > > > >>>> > > little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few
> > > > things,
> > > > > > > >>>> you might
> > > > > > > >>>> > > be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has
> > bent
> > > > > > valves,
> > > > > > > >>>> if
> > > > > > > >>>> > > you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine
> > will be
> > > > > > > >>>> unknown until
> > > > > > > >>>> > > somebody looks inside it.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A
> > full
> > > > engine
> > > > > > > >>>> rebuild,
> > > > > > > >>>> > > or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few
> > > > thousand $$$
> > > > > > > >>>> (~$3k,
> > > > > > > >>>> > > maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much
> > into the
> > > > > > car if
> > > > > > > >>>> you'll
> > > > > > > >>>> > > have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are
> > > > probably
> > > > > > > >>>> not in
> > > > > > > >>>> > > very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a
> > good
> > > > > > bit of
> > > > > > > >>>> work
> > > > > > > >>>> > > too.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for
> > > > rusted
> > > > > > > >>>> places.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but
> > it's a
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > > >>>> idea to
> > > > > > > >>>> > > check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the
> > > > body may
> > > > > > > >>>> look good,
> > > > > > > >>>> > > but the underside could be a different story. So look
> > > > carefully.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get
> > and
> > > > fix
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > > >>>> the car!
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Richard
Eric Geiger
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Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)

Post by Eric Geiger »

I have to agree I've bought much worse looking sight unseen for the same price.
Eric J. Geiger
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On May 13, 2013, at 7:45 AM, "Chas" wrote:
Becky,
You should really tell him that yuou will buy it sight unseen and even send him a Paypal deposit. I fear that you will lose this if anyone else sees it first. It is well worth the 1200 asking price.
Charles
--- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn wrote:
> He has two other people coming to look at it this week as well as me. I
> can't go look at it until Monday since I had to work all weekend.
> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > **
> > Becky did u get the car?
> > Eric J. Geiger
> > ---------------------------------------
> > PRG Nocturne
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > egeiger@...
www.prgnocturne.com
> > On May 11, 2013, at 3:23 PM, "Mike" wrote:
> > Oh boy. I hope you don't like going really fast all the time. Don't get me
> > wrong, these cars can certainly get up and go, but they're not exactly hot
> > rods.
> > :)
> > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > wrote:
> > > I have not driven one.
> > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > > **
> > > > If you don't mind me asking, have you ever driven one of these cars?
> > Just
> > > > curious.
> > > > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I've been looking in other places. It's just the amount of money it
> > would
> > > > > cost to drive and pick it up. My dad and brother think I'm weird
> > because
> > > > I
> > > > > like these types of cars.
> > > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > > > > **
> > > > > > Becky,
> > > > > > I highly recommend expanding your search to farther places.
> > Tennessee
> > > > is a
> > > > > > place where cars tend to rust due to the winters.
> > > > > > I travelled almost 1400 miles to get my Honda when I finally found
> > a
> > > > good
> > > > > > one.
> > > > > > Travelling far to get a treasure that you really want can be a
> > really
> > > > fun
> > > > > > adventure to.
> > > > > > good luck.
> > > > > > Mike.
> > > > > > --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Although, if any of you have one you are willing to sell. I'm
> > > > definitely
> > > > > > > interested.
> > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > > > > > > There are a few in Ga, but they don't run and no matter how
> > good it
> > > > > > looks
> > > > > > > > on the outside, I don't want to pay a ton for something that's
> > not
> > > > > > running.
> > > > > > > > It's just frustrating because I want one now. The thought of
> > > > waiting a
> > > > > > full
> > > > > > > > year just kills me.
> > > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Elias Baldwin > > > > > ...>wrote:
> > > > > > > >> **
> > > > > > > >> Eric's right. Uship found an independent hauler (guy with Ford
> > > > F-250
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >> trailer) for my Z that wasn't terribly expensive. You may
> > have to
> > > > > > wait a
> > > > > > > >> bit, but someone somewhere will have an empty truck or trailer
> > > > and be
> > > > > > > >> headed your way. Even shipped from Zimbabwe, it'll be cheaper
> > and
> > > > less
> > > > > > > >> painful than bodywork. And I too was an impecunious college
> > > > student
> > > > > > when I
> > > > > > > >> bought my Z online and had it shipped. The fact was that I
> > really,
> > > > > > really
> > > > > > > >> wanted a solid car (after having owned a rotten one) and I
> > > > figured I
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > >> deal with mechanicals, but not proper bodywork. After a few
> > years
> > > > of
> > > > > > > >> working and dutiful saving (no beer, no vacations, very used
> > > > > > textbooks,
> > > > > > > >> taking the bus, etc.), it was a delightful moment when my car
> > > > arrived.
> > > > > > > >> The KEY with a long distance sale is rapport with the seller.
> > > > Lots of
> > > > > > > >> pictures, phone conversations, etc. Even then I was still a
> > bit
> > > > > > nervous
> > > > > > > >> until my car showed up. But the seller had been very fair in
> > his
> > > > > > > >> descriptions.
> > > > > > > >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> **
> > > > > > > >>> My mistake the car is in Tucson AZ. I was just in Tucson a
> > few
> > > > days
> > > > > > > >>> ago I wish I would have known about it cuz I would have
> > checked
> > > > it
> > > > > > out for
> > > > > > > >>> myself.
> > > > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > > > >>> egeiger@
www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Eric Geiger"
> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> There's a z600 on eBay right now. Green in TX going for 1200.
> > > > Looks
> > > > > > > >>> to be pretty clean minimal rust. Not much of a description
> > though
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > >>> what's going on with it. That might be a good starter car. I
> > > > think it
> > > > > > > >>> has new tires so atleast it should roll.
> > > > > > > >>> I've used uship before to ship cars with decent results. It's
> > > > pretty
> > > > > > > >>> much like eBay for shipping anything. People will bid on your
> > > > > > shipment.
> > > > > > > >>> You can go on the website and atleast get some estimates.
> > Make a
> > > > > > dummy
> > > > > > > >>> listing to see what people quote you to ship it.
> > > > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > > > >>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > > > >>> egeiger@
www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 10:56 AM, "Becky Flynn"
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> My budget is around $2000. If I could afford to ship it too
> > me
> > > > I'd
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > >>> a less rusty one.
> > > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013 9:04 AM, "Eric Geiger" wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> **
> > > > > > > >>>> What's your budget Becky? Maybe someone here has a car
> > they're
> > > > > > sitting
> > > > > > > >>>> on that they might be willing to part with. Like I said I
> > have
> > > > 2-3
> > > > > > extra
> > > > > > > >>>> cars that I need to part with atleast one. Someone very
> > well may
> > > > > > have one
> > > > > > > >>>> they could get running so that you already have a running
> > car to
> > > > > > start with
> > > > > > > >>>> and maybe just needs a brake job and some minor repairs to
> > be
> > > > road
> > > > > > worthy.
> > > > > > > >>>> Might not be the nicest looking but you can make it your own
> > > > then
> > > > > > still.
> > > > > > > >>>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > > >>>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > > > >>>> egeiger@
www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > > >>>> On May 9, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Chas" wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> Hi Becky,
> > > > > > > >>>> Don't buy a rusty Honda Z600. It is just not worth the
> > effort as
> > > > > > much
> > > > > > > >>>> nicer cars are just not that expensive. I don't know what
> > your
> > > > > > budget is
> > > > > > > >>>> but I have five Z600's and I was thinking about parting with
> > > > one or
> > > > > > two of
> > > > > > > >>>> them. They are all very noce cars from a very nice original
> > that
> > > > > > needs a
> > > > > > > >>>> little work to two very nice running driving cars, to a car
> > > > that is
> > > > > > 85%
> > > > > > > >>>> restored and just needs finishing. If you are serious about
> > > > buying
> > > > > > a Z600,
> > > > > > > >>>> please contact me and we can arrange to get you up here to
> > have
> > > > a
> > > > > > look.
> > > > > > > >>>> Also, we host the Gould's Annual Microcar & Minicar Classic
> > > > Event
> > > > > > here
> > > > > > > >>>> in Newton (near Boston), Massachusetts on July 12, 13 and
> > 14,
> > > > 2013.
> > > > > > You are
> > > > > > > >>>> welcome to attend and see all of the unusual microcars and
> > > > minicars
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > >>>> attend this European style driving event. Everyone else is
> > also
> > > > > > invited. It
> > > > > > > >>>> is three days of microcar lunacy including four driving
> > tours,
> > > > > > activities,
> > > > > > > >>>> parties, Memphis barbecue, frozen Margarita party and much,
> > much
> > > > > > more.
> > > > > > > >>>> Check out all of the details at
www.bubbledrome.com
> > > > > > > >>>> Chas
> > > > > > > >>>> --- In
anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
, Becky Flynn
> > > >
> > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that
> > looks
> > > > > > pretty
> > > > > > > >>>> > rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600.
> > The
> > > > only
> > > > > > > >>>> thing I'm
> > > > > > > >>>> > worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't
> > know
> > > > if I
> > > > > > > >>>> should
> > > > > > > >>>> > continue to save money and see if something better comes
> > > > along,
> > > > > > or go
> > > > > > > >>>> with
> > > > > > > >>>> > it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > > > > > > >>>> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> >
> > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > > **
> > > > > > > >>>> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he
> > knows
> > > > the
> > > > > > 600
> > > > > > > >>>> cars
> > > > > > > >>>> > > backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in
> > fact
> > > > -- I'm
> > > > > > > >>>> also
> > > > > > > >>>> > > located in NC.)
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these
> > little
> > > > > > cars.
> > > > > > > >>>> The
> > > > > > > >>>> > > stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before
> > > > they
> > > > > > > >>>> stretch and
> > > > > > > >>>> > > eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When
> > that
> > > > > > > >>>> happens, the
> > > > > > > >>>> > > valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care
> > of
> > > > > > during
> > > > > > > >>>> an engine
> > > > > > > >>>> > > rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with
> > > > heavier
> > > > > > > >>>> racing chain
> > > > > > > >>>> > > that should last a lot longer.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in
> > > > until a
> > > > > > > >>>> > > knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that
> > > > assessment
> > > > > > > >>>> can't be
> > > > > > > >>>> > > done without opening up the engine and looking inside.
> > It's
> > > > > > always
> > > > > > > >>>> possible
> > > > > > > >>>> > > that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the
> > > > engine
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > >>>> too
> > > > > > > >>>> > > little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few
> > > > things,
> > > > > > > >>>> you might
> > > > > > > >>>> > > be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has
> > bent
> > > > > > valves,
> > > > > > > >>>> if
> > > > > > > >>>> > > you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine
> > will be
> > > > > > > >>>> unknown until
> > > > > > > >>>> > > somebody looks inside it.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A
> > full
> > > > engine
> > > > > > > >>>> rebuild,
> > > > > > > >>>> > > or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few
> > > > thousand $$$
> > > > > > > >>>> (~$3k,
> > > > > > > >>>> > > maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much
> > into the
> > > > > > car if
> > > > > > > >>>> you'll
> > > > > > > >>>> > > have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are
> > > > probably
> > > > > > > >>>> not in
> > > > > > > >>>> > > very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a
> > good
> > > > > > bit of
> > > > > > > >>>> work
> > > > > > > >>>> > > too.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for
> > > > rusted
> > > > > > > >>>> places.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but
> > it's a
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > > >>>> idea to
> > > > > > > >>>> > > check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the
> > > > body may
> > > > > > > >>>> look good,
> > > > > > > >>>> > > but the underside could be a different story. So look
> > > > carefully.
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get
> > and
> > > > fix
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > > >>>> the car!
> > > > > > > >>>> > > Richard
Becky Flynn
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Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)

Post by Becky Flynn »

I'm going to try and call him again this evening. I have a double shift so I can't make it out until sometime later this week. I don't want to put a deposit and then have him sell it out from under me.
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Eric Geiger

> I have to agree I've bought much worse looking sight unseen for the same price.�
> Eric J. Geiger
> ---------------------------------------
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> On May 13, 2013, at 7:45 AM, "Chas" chasgould@...
> > wrote:
> > �
> > Becky,
> > You should really tell him that yuou will buy it sight unseen and even send him a Paypal deposit. I fear that you will lose this if anyone else sees it first. It is well worth the 1200 asking price.
> > Charles
> > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > He has two other people coming to look at it this week as well as me. I
> > > can't go look at it until Monday since I had to work all weekend.
> > > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > **
> > > > Becky did u get the car?
> > > > Eric J. Geiger
> > > > ---------------------------------------
> > > > PRG Nocturne
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > phone
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > fax
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > mobile
> > > > egeiger@...
> > www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > On May 11, 2013, at 3:23 PM, "Mike" wrote:
> > > > Oh boy. I hope you don't like going really fast all the time. Don't get me
> > > > wrong, these cars can certainly get up and go, but they're not exactly hot
> > > > rods.
> > > > :)
> > > > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , Becky Flynn
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I have not driven one.
> > > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > > > > **
> > > > > > If you don't mind me asking, have you ever driven one of these cars?
> > > > Just
> > > > > > curious.
> > > > > > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , Becky Flynn
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > I've been looking in other places. It's just the amount of money it
> > > > would
> > > > > > > cost to drive and pick it up. My dad and brother think I'm weird
> > > > because
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > like these types of cars.
> > > > > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > > Becky,
> > > > > > > > I highly recommend expanding your search to farther places.
> > > > Tennessee
> > > > > > is a
> > > > > > > > place where cars tend to rust due to the winters.
> > > > > > > > I travelled almost 1400 miles to get my Honda when I finally found
> > > > a
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > one.
> > > > > > > > Travelling far to get a treasure that you really want can be a
> > > > really
> > > > > > fun
> > > > > > > > adventure to.
> > > > > > > > good luck.
> > > > > > > > Mike.
> > > > > > > > --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , Becky Flynn
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Although, if any of you have one you are willing to sell. I'm
> > > > > > definitely
> > > > > > > > > interested.
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > There are a few in Ga, but they don't run and no matter how
> > > > good it
> > > > > > > > looks
> > > > > > > > > > on the outside, I don't want to pay a ton for something that's
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > running.
> > > > > > > > > > It's just frustrating because I want one now. The thought of
> > > > > > waiting a
> > > > > > > > full
> > > > > > > > > > year just kills me.
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Elias Baldwin > > > > > > > ...>wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> **
> > > > > > > > > >> Eric's right. Uship found an independent hauler (guy with Ford
> > > > > > F-250
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >> trailer) for my Z that wasn't terribly expensive. You may
> > > > have to
> > > > > > > > wait a
> > > > > > > > > >> bit, but someone somewhere will have an empty truck or trailer
> > > > > > and be
> > > > > > > > > >> headed your way. Even shipped from Zimbabwe, it'll be cheaper
> > > > and
> > > > > > less
> > > > > > > > > >> painful than bodywork. And I too was an impecunious college
> > > > > > student
> > > > > > > > when I
> > > > > > > > > >> bought my Z online and had it shipped. The fact was that I
> > > > really,
> > > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > > >> wanted a solid car (after having owned a rotten one) and I
> > > > > > figured I
> > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > >> deal with mechanicals, but not proper bodywork. After a few
> > > > years
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > >> working and dutiful saving (no beer, no vacations, very used
> > > > > > > > textbooks,
> > > > > > > > > >> taking the bus, etc.), it was a delightful moment when my car
> > > > > > arrived.
> > > > > > > > > >> The KEY with a long distance sale is rapport with the seller.
> > > > > > Lots of
> > > > > > > > > >> pictures, phone conversations, etc. Even then I was still a
> > > > bit
> > > > > > > > nervous
> > > > > > > > > >> until my car showed up. But the seller had been very fair in
> > > > his
> > > > > > > > > >> descriptions.
> > > > > > > > > >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>> **
> > > > > > > > > >>> My mistake the car is in Tucson AZ. I was just in Tucson a
> > > > few
> > > > > > days
> > > > > > > > > >>> ago I wish I would have known about it cuz I would have
> > > > checked
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > out for
> > > > > > > > > >>> myself.
> > > > > > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > phone
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > fax
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > mobile
> > > > > > > > > >>> egeiger@
> > www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Eric Geiger"
> > > > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>> There's a z600 on eBay right now. Green in TX going for 1200.
> > > > > > Looks
> > > > > > > > > >>> to be pretty clean minimal rust. Not much of a description
> > > > though
> > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > >>> what's going on with it. That might be a good starter car. I
> > > > > > think it
> > > > > > > > > >>> has new tires so atleast it should roll.
> > > > > > > > > >>> I've used uship before to ship cars with decent results. It's
> > > > > > pretty
> > > > > > > > > >>> much like eBay for shipping anything. People will bid on your
> > > > > > > > shipment.
> > > > > > > > > >>> You can go on the website and atleast get some estimates.
> > > > Make a
> > > > > > > > dummy
> > > > > > > > > >>> listing to see what people quote you to ship it.
> > > > > > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > phone
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > fax
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > mobile
> > > > > > > > > >>> egeiger@
> > www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 10:56 AM, "Becky Flynn"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>> My budget is around $2000. If I could afford to ship it too
> > > > me
> > > > > > I'd
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > >>> a less rusty one.
> > > > > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013 9:04 AM, "Eric Geiger" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> **
> > > > > > > > > >>>> What's your budget Becky? Maybe someone here has a car
> > > > they're
> > > > > > > > sitting
> > > > > > > > > >>>> on that they might be willing to part with. Like I said I
> > > > have
> > > > > > 2-3
> > > > > > > > extra
> > > > > > > > > >>>> cars that I need to part with atleast one. Someone very
> > > > well may
> > > > > > > > have one
> > > > > > > > > >>>> they could get running so that you already have a running
> > > > car to
> > > > > > > > start with
> > > > > > > > > >>>> and maybe just needs a brake job and some minor repairs to
> > > > be
> > > > > > road
> > > > > > > > worthy.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Might not be the nicest looking but you can make it your own
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > still.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > > > > >>>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >>>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > > > > > >>>> egeiger@
> > www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > > > > >>>> On May 9, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Chas" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Hi Becky,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Don't buy a rusty Honda Z600. It is just not worth the
> > > > effort as
> > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > > >>>> nicer cars are just not that expensive. I don't know what
> > > > your
> > > > > > > > budget is
> > > > > > > > > >>>> but I have five Z600's and I was thinking about parting with
> > > > > > one or
> > > > > > > > two of
> > > > > > > > > >>>> them. They are all very noce cars from a very nice original
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > needs a
> > > > > > > > > >>>> little work to two very nice running driving cars, to a car
> > > > > > that is
> > > > > > > > 85%
> > > > > > > > > >>>> restored and just needs finishing. If you are serious about
> > > > > > buying
> > > > > > > > a Z600,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> please contact me and we can arrange to get you up here to
> > > > have
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > look.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Also, we host the Gould's Annual Microcar & Minicar Classic
> > > > > > Event
> > > > > > > > here
> > > > > > > > > >>>> in Newton (near Boston), Massachusetts on July 12, 13 and
> > > > 14,
> > > > > > 2013.
> > > > > > > > You are
> > > > > > > > > >>>> welcome to attend and see all of the unusual microcars and
> > > > > > minicars
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > >>>> attend this European style driving event. Everyone else is
> > > > also
> > > > > > > > invited. It
> > > > > > > > > >>>> is three days of microcar lunacy including four driving
> > > > tours,
> > > > > > > > activities,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> parties, Memphis barbecue, frozen Margarita party and much,
> > > > much
> > > > > > > > more.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Check out all of the details at
> > www.bubbledrome.com
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Chas
> > > > > > > > > >>>> --- In
> > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > , Becky Flynn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that
> > > > looks
> > > > > > > > pretty
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600.
> > > > The
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > >>>> thing I'm
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't
> > > > know
> > > > > > if I
> > > > > > > > > >>>> should
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > continue to save money and see if something better comes
> > > > > > along,
> > > > > > > > or go
> > > > > > > > > >>>> with
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > **
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he
> > > > knows
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > 600
> > > > > > > > > >>>> cars
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in
> > > > fact
> > > > > > -- I'm
> > > > > > > > > >>>> also
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > located in NC.)
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these
> > > > little
> > > > > > > > cars.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> The
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > >>>> stretch and
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > > >>>> happens, the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > during
> > > > > > > > > >>>> an engine
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with
> > > > > > heavier
> > > > > > > > > >>>> racing chain
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that should last a lot longer.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in
> > > > > > until a
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that
> > > > > > assessment
> > > > > > > > > >>>> can't be
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > done without opening up the engine and looking inside.
> > > > It's
> > > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > > > >>>> possible
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the
> > > > > > engine
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > >>>> too
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few
> > > > > > things,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> you might
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has
> > > > bent
> > > > > > > > valves,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> if
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine
> > > > will be
> > > > > > > > > >>>> unknown until
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > somebody looks inside it.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A
> > > > full
> > > > > > engine
> > > > > > > > > >>>> rebuild,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few
> > > > > > thousand $$$
> > > > > > > > > >>>> (~$3k,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much
> > > > into the
> > > > > > > > car if
> > > > > > > > > >>>> you'll
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are
> > > > > > probably
> > > > > > > > > >>>> not in
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a
> > > > good
> > > > > > > > bit of
> > > > > > > > > >>>> work
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > too.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for
> > > > > > rusted
> > > > > > > > > >>>> places.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but
> > > > it's a
> > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > >>>> idea to
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the
> > > > > > body may
> > > > > > > > > >>>> look good,
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > but the underside could be a different story. So look
> > > > > > carefully.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get
> > > > and
> > > > > > fix
> > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > >>>> the car!
> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Richard
Eric Geiger
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Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)

Post by Eric Geiger »

If the seller is honest the deposit should hold the car till you arrive and keep him from selling it to anyone else.
Eric J. Geiger
PRG Nocturne
XXX-XXX-XXXX  phone
XXX-XXX-XXXX  fax
XXX-XXX-XXXX  mobile
egeiger@...
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On May 13, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> I'm going to try and call him again this evening. I have a double shift so I can't make it out until sometime later this week. I don't want to put a deposit and then have him sell it out from under me.
> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Eric Geiger
> egeiger@...
> wrote:
> > I have to agree I've bought much worse looking sight unseen for the same price.
> > Eric J. Geiger
> > ---------------------------------------
> > PRG Nocturne
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > phone
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > fax
> > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > mobile
> > egeiger@...
> > www.prgnocturne.com
> > On May 13, 2013, at 7:45 AM, "Chas" > chasgould@...
> > > wrote:
> > > Becky,
> > > You should really tell him that yuou will buy it sight unseen and even send him a Paypal deposit. I fear that you will lose this if anyone else sees it first. It is well worth the 1200 asking price.
> > > Charles
> > > --- In
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > , Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > > He has two other people coming to look at it this week as well as me. I
> > > > can't go look at it until Monday since I had to work all weekend.
> > > > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > > **
> > > > > Becky did u get the car?
> > > > > Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > ---------------------------------------
> > > > > PRG Nocturne
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > phone
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > fax
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > mobile
> > > > > egeiger@...
> > > www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > On May 11, 2013, at 3:23 PM, "Mike" wrote:
> > > > > Oh boy. I hope you don't like going really fast all the time. Don't get me
> > > > > wrong, these cars can certainly get up and go, but they're not exactly hot
> > > > > rods.
> > > > > :)
> > > > > --- In
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > , Becky Flynn
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > I have not driven one.
> > > > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > If you don't mind me asking, have you ever driven one of these cars?
> > > > > Just
> > > > > > > curious.
> > > > > > > --- In
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > , Becky Flynn
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > I've been looking in other places. It's just the amount of money it
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > > cost to drive and pick it up. My dad and brother think I'm weird
> > > > > because
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > like these types of cars.
> > > > > > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Mike wrote:
> > > > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > > > Becky,
> > > > > > > > > I highly recommend expanding your search to farther places.
> > > > > Tennessee
> > > > > > > is a
> > > > > > > > > place where cars tend to rust due to the winters.
> > > > > > > > > I travelled almost 1400 miles to get my Honda when I finally found
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > one.
> > > > > > > > > Travelling far to get a treasure that you really want can be a
> > > > > really
> > > > > > > fun
> > > > > > > > > adventure to.
> > > > > > > > > good luck.
> > > > > > > > > Mike.
> > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > , Becky Flynn
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Although, if any of you have one you are willing to sell. I'm
> > > > > > > definitely
> > > > > > > > > > interested.
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > There are a few in Ga, but they don't run and no matter how
> > > > > good it
> > > > > > > > > looks
> > > > > > > > > > > on the outside, I don't want to pay a ton for something that's
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > running.
> > > > > > > > > > > It's just frustrating because I want one now. The thought of
> > > > > > > waiting a
> > > > > > > > > full
> > > > > > > > > > > year just kills me.
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Elias Baldwin > > > > > > > > ...>wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> **
> > > > > > > > > > >> Eric's right. Uship found an independent hauler (guy with Ford
> > > > > > > F-250
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > >> trailer) for my Z that wasn't terribly expensive. You may
> > > > > have to
> > > > > > > > > wait a
> > > > > > > > > > >> bit, but someone somewhere will have an empty truck or trailer
> > > > > > > and be
> > > > > > > > > > >> headed your way. Even shipped from Zimbabwe, it'll be cheaper
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > less
> > > > > > > > > > >> painful than bodywork. And I too was an impecunious college
> > > > > > > student
> > > > > > > > > when I
> > > > > > > > > > >> bought my Z online and had it shipped. The fact was that I
> > > > > really,
> > > > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > > > >> wanted a solid car (after having owned a rotten one) and I
> > > > > > > figured I
> > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > >> deal with mechanicals, but not proper bodywork. After a few
> > > > > years
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > >> working and dutiful saving (no beer, no vacations, very used
> > > > > > > > > textbooks,
> > > > > > > > > > >> taking the bus, etc.), it was a delightful moment when my car
> > > > > > > arrived.
> > > > > > > > > > >> The KEY with a long distance sale is rapport with the seller.
> > > > > > > Lots of
> > > > > > > > > > >> pictures, phone conversations, etc. Even then I was still a
> > > > > bit
> > > > > > > > > nervous
> > > > > > > > > > >> until my car showed up. But the seller had been very fair in
> > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > > >> descriptions.
> > > > > > > > > > >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Eric Geiger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>> **
> > > > > > > > > > >>> My mistake the car is in Tucson AZ. I was just in Tucson a
> > > > > few
> > > > > > > days
> > > > > > > > > > >>> ago I wish I would have known about it cuz I would have
> > > > > checked
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > out for
> > > > > > > > > > >>> myself.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > phone
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > fax
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > mobile
> > > > > > > > > > >>> egeiger@
> > > www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Eric Geiger"
> > > > > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>> There's a z600 on eBay right now. Green in TX going for 1200.
> > > > > > > Looks
> > > > > > > > > > >>> to be pretty clean minimal rust. Not much of a description
> > > > > though
> > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > >>> what's going on with it. That might be a good starter car. I
> > > > > > > think it
> > > > > > > > > > >>> has new tires so atleast it should roll.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> I've used uship before to ship cars with decent results. It's
> > > > > > > pretty
> > > > > > > > > > >>> much like eBay for shipping anything. People will bid on your
> > > > > > > > > shipment.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> You can go on the website and atleast get some estimates.
> > > > > Make a
> > > > > > > > > dummy
> > > > > > > > > > >>> listing to see what people quote you to ship it.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >>> PRG Nocturne
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > phone
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > fax
> > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > mobile
> > > > > > > > > > >>> egeiger@
> > > www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013, at 10:56 AM, "Becky Flynn"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>> My budget is around $2000. If I could afford to ship it too
> > > > > me
> > > > > > > I'd
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > >>> a less rusty one.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> On May 9, 2013 9:04 AM, "Eric Geiger" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> **
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> What's your budget Becky? Maybe someone here has a car
> > > > > they're
> > > > > > > > > sitting
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> on that they might be willing to part with. Like I said I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > 2-3
> > > > > > > > > extra
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> cars that I need to part with atleast one. Someone very
> > > > > well may
> > > > > > > > > have one
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> they could get running so that you already have a running
> > > > > car to
> > > > > > > > > start with
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> and maybe just needs a brake job and some minor repairs to
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > road
> > > > > > > > > worthy.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Might not be the nicest looking but you can make it your own
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > still.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> PRG Nocturne
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX phone
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX fax
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> XXX-XXX-XXXX mobile
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> egeiger@
> > > www.prgnocturne.com
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> On May 9, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Chas" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Hi Becky,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Don't buy a rusty Honda Z600. It is just not worth the
> > > > > effort as
> > > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> nicer cars are just not that expensive. I don't know what
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > budget is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> but I have five Z600's and I was thinking about parting with
> > > > > > > one or
> > > > > > > > > two of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> them. They are all very noce cars from a very nice original
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > needs a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> little work to two very nice running driving cars, to a car
> > > > > > > that is
> > > > > > > > > 85%
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> restored and just needs finishing. If you are serious about
> > > > > > > buying
> > > > > > > > > a Z600,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> please contact me and we can arrange to get you up here to
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > look.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Also, we host the Gould's Annual Microcar & Minicar Classic
> > > > > > > Event
> > > > > > > > > here
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> in Newton (near Boston), Massachusetts on July 12, 13 and
> > > > > 14,
> > > > > > > 2013.
> > > > > > > > > You are
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> welcome to attend and see all of the unusual microcars and
> > > > > > > minicars
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> attend this European style driving event. Everyone else is
> > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > invited. It
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> is three days of microcar lunacy including four driving
> > > > > tours,
> > > > > > > > > activities,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> parties, Memphis barbecue, frozen Margarita party and much,
> > > > > much
> > > > > > > > > more.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Check out all of the details at
> > > www.bubbledrome.com
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Chas
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> --- In
> > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > , Becky Flynn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that
> > > > > looks
> > > > > > > > > pretty
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> thing I'm
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't
> > > > > know
> > > > > > > if I
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> should
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > continue to save money and see if something better comes
> > > > > > > along,
> > > > > > > > > or go
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> with
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > **
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Mike O'Connor is located in Statesville, NC, and he
> > > > > knows
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > 600
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> cars
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > backwards and forwards. (Not too-too far from me, in
> > > > > fact
> > > > > > > -- I'm
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> also
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > located in NC.)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these
> > > > > little
> > > > > > > > > cars.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> The
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles before
> > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> stretch and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > eventually jump the valve timing if not replaced. When
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> happens, the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > valves can get bent. But that problem can be taken care
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > during
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> an engine
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > rebuild. Some people replace the stock cam chains with
> > > > > > > heavier
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> racing chain
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that should last a lot longer.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in
> > > > > > > until a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that
> > > > > > > assessment
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> can't be
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > done without opening up the engine and looking inside.
> > > > > It's
> > > > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> possible
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that someone mistreated it and did things like ran the
> > > > > > > engine
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> too
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few
> > > > > > > things,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> you might
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine has
> > > > > bent
> > > > > > > > > valves,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> if
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > you're interested. Regardless, much about the engine
> > > > > will be
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> unknown until
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > somebody looks inside it.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Is it a really good price you'd be getting it for? A
> > > > > full
> > > > > > > engine
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> rebuild,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > or rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few
> > > > > > > thousand $$$
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> (~$3k,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much
> > > > > into the
> > > > > > > > > car if
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> you'll
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Brakes, in a car that's been sitting for that long, are
> > > > > > > probably
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> not in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > very good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a
> > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > bit of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> work
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > too.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for
> > > > > > > rusted
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> places.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but
> > > > > it's a
> > > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> idea to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > check really closely. The readily-viewable parts of the
> > > > > > > body may
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> look good,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > but the underside could be a different story. So look
> > > > > > > carefully.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work out for you to get
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > fix
> > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> the car!
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Richard
dealadayray
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Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)

Post by dealadayray »

Becky;
                I wouldn’t put anything on it until I see it.  Why isn’t there a picture of the engine compartment?  Why isn’t there pictures of the back seat?  The upholstery is poor and there are parts missing just looking at the pictures on the list.  I would contact the owner and ask for more pictures.  Close up’s of the tires to see if there are side wall cracks, engine compartment pictures and trunk pictures.  Ask about the fan belt in the front seat, and why there are no plates on it.  Ask if the brakes work and will it start?  It may be a good price for a runner in better than average condition, but know what your getting into before throwing money at it.
                Just my cut
                Bill
zinc2u
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Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)

Post by zinc2u »

Hi  Becky,
    I looked at the picture of this Z600 and saw some of the comments on this board.   If this is your first Honda 600 and you don't have any experience working on these,  my advice to you is;
DON'T BUY THIS CAR !!!!
It has too much rust.  You are looking at thousands of dollars to get this car in good condition.  And that assumes the engine works.  If the engine doesn't work,  you are spending another 1000 to 3000 to get it working.
I know you can do better than this.   Tell us how much you want to spend to get a working car and do you want the sedan (N600) ore a coupe (Z600).   If you want a sedan,  I suggest you go with the later model sedan (1971-1972) with synchromesh transmission and newer style carb.  It was more reliable and parts will be more readily available.
Don't be in a rush to pick up a junker.  Tell us what you really want.
Dale
> http://knoxville.ebayclassifieds.com/cl ... d=11098721 > This > is basically the car. He said he got his from a guy that's local as well, so I > might try and find out who that was.
> I don't make enough, (broke
> college kid) Lol, to ship one. I can afford the car, but not the shipping.
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Elias Baldwin
> baldwinelias@...
> wrote:
> > If it's cheap enough and you have the room, a complete yet > > rusty Z can make a good parts car ... for one that isn't rusted.
> > I found my first 600 close to home as well, but it was completely > > rotten. I soon learned it was easier and cheaper to find a car that wasn't > > rusted and have it shipped (and they are out there) rather than try to fix a > > rotten mess that would probably never be right anyway. That said, I have > > been thankful many times to have a parts car, for reference if nothing > > else.
> > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:19 PM, T W S
> > > woofbiteme@...
> > wrote:
> > > DITTO,  double ditto!
> > > From:
> > > Eric Geiger > > egeiger@...
> > > To:
> > > " > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > >" > > anzhonda600owners@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent:
> > > Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:11
> > > PM
> > > Subject:
> > > Re:
> > > [anzhonda600owners] Re: New N600 Owner(hopefully)
> > > stay away from rust.  you'll thank yourself later.
> > >  especially in the floors.
> > > On May 8, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Becky Flynn wrote:
> > > > Well, the n600 didn't work out...but I found a z600 that > > > > looks pretty rough, although I think I can get it for at least $600. The > > > > only thing I'm worried about is it is going to need floor pans. I don't > > > > know if I should continue to save money and see if something better > > > > comes along, or go with it and pray the pans aren't that bad.
> > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM, richmccolman
> > > > > > > richmccolman@...
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I agree with Eric and Chas:
> > > > > Mike O'Connor is located in
> > > > > Statesville, NC, and he knows the 600 cars backwards and forwards.
> > > > > (Not too-too far from me, in fact -- I'm also located in > > > > > NC.) > > > > > Yes, the cam chain is definitely an issue with these > > > > > little cars. The stock ones will last about 40,000 to 60,000 miles > > > > > before they stretch and eventually jump the valve timing if not > > > > > replaced. When that happens, the valves can get bent. But that problem > > > > > can be taken care of during an engine rebuild. Some people replace the > > > > > stock cam chains with heavier racing chain that should last a lot > > > > > longer.
> > > > > There's no telling exactly what shape the engine is in > > > > > until a knowledgeable mechanic assesses it, and part of that > > > > > assessment can't be done without opening up the engine and looking > > > > > inside. It's always possible that someone mistreated it and did things > > > > > like ran the engine with too little oil, causing much internal wear.
> > > > > How mechanically savvy are you, Becky? If you know a few > > > > > things, you might be able to scope out stuff like whether the engine > > > > > has bent valves, if you're interested. Regardless, much about the > > > > > engine will be unknown until somebody looks inside it.
> > > > > Is it a
> > > > > really good price you'd be getting it for? A full engine rebuild, or > > > > > rebuilt replacement engine, could cost you a few thousand $$$ (~$3k, > > > > > maybe), so you probably don't want to sink too much into the car if > > > > > you'll have to also spend a nice chunk on the engine.
> > > > > Brakes,
> > > > > in a car that's been sitting for that long, are probably not in very > > > > > good shape, I'm guessing. Those will likely need a good bit of work > > > > > too.
> > > > > Do check up under the car and under floor mats, etc, for > > > > > rusted places. Sounds like you're tuned into that issue already, but > > > > > it's a good idea to check really closely. The readily-viewable parts > > > > > of the body may look good, but the underside could be a different > > > > > story. So look carefully.
> > > > > Good luck with it. I hope it'll work
> > > > > out for you to get and fix up the car!
> > > > > Richard
> > > > > --- In
> > > > > mailto:anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > , Eric
> > > > > Geiger wrote:
> > > > > > Depending on
> > > > > where you are in TN, mike oconnor may only be a few short hours away > > > > > in NC. He's the east coast guy when it comes to 600s
> > > > > > He also has a website honda600shop
> > > > > Eric J. Geiger
> > > > > ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > PRG
> > > > > Nocturne
> > > > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > > > phone
> > > > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > > > fax
> > > > > XXX-XXX-XXXX
> > > > > mobile
> > > > > egeiger@... > > > > egeiger@
> > > > > ...>
> > > > > http://www.prgnocturne.com/
> > > > > > > > > http://www.prgnocturne.com/
> > > > > > On May 1, 2013, at 11:51 AM, "Becky
> > > > > Flynn" > > > > bfly1823@
> > > > > ...>> wrote:
> > > > > > I'm located more in the southeast. I live in
> > > > > TN. This car is pretty much my birthday present to myself. I adore > > > > > little cars and the older they are the cooler they are to me. Needless > > > > > to say if things don't work out with this car I'm going to be pretty > > > > > bummed. Lol.
> > > > > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Chas
> > > > > > > > > chasgould@
> > > > > ...>> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Rebekah,
> > > > > > Welcome to the group and
> > > > > congratualtions on your N600 find. The major concerns with the engine > > > > > are the camchain, which should be tended to as a preventative measure > > > > > as these tend to fail on cars that have sat for a long time. It is not > > > > > a huge job but should be done before damage occurs. Where are you in > > > > > the East. I am in Newton (near Boston) Massachusetts, and I would be > > > > > happy to show you our Honda Z cars and let you drive one to get a feel > > > > > for the car. If it is close enough, i would be happy to check out your > > > > > prospective purchase for you as well. Also, I can give you some ideas > > > > > of value so that you don't overpay for this car, especially if it has > > > > > not run since 1993.
> > > > > > I think that it is wonderful that you
> > > > > are interested in these cars, and you will have a blast with this > > > > > car.
> > > > > > Chas
> > > > > > --- In
> > > > > mailto:anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > anzhonda600owners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >, "azhonda72"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > My name is
> > > > > Rebekah and I have been searching for a long time to find a n600 on > > > > > the east coast near me that isn't a complete rust bucket. Lucky for me > > > > > I've found two! One is a little over priced but the other seems to be > > > > > in ok shape. I was wondering what were some things I should look out > > > > > for before I go buy it? It needs a passenger side window and looks > > > > > like it might need a door as well. Basically, I want to be able to go > > > > > look at this car and make a well informed decision. Any help is > > > > > greatly appreciated.
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